Xbox 720 Announcement Delayed From April To May

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#151 Shewgenja
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It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

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And clearly, you know enough about the original projected architecture of the next XBox to come to that conclusion yes?
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#152 wazzap76
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[QUOTE="wazzap76"]

It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

StrongBlackVine

Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.

 

Minor really minor. They all ready have their silicon designed and manufacturing is almost set in stone if not all ready if it's set for a 2013 release. If it's not set for a holiday release then yet re-specing the console is completely viable. A company as large as Microsoft wont throw the last 7 years of R&D out the window just like that and people thinking they will are delusional. Millions and millions of dollors would go out the window and a large portion of Microsofts investors don't want Microsoft in the gaming console industry. So them throwing all that away wont happen as the investors wont let it happen. Software might change as well as their direction with the machine but on a manifacturing standpoint they are most likely set in stone for the most part.

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#153 wazzap76
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[QUOTE="wazzap76"]

It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

Shewgenja

And clearly, you know enough about the original projected architecture of the next XBox to come to that conclusion yes?

 

I'm not making outlandish claims on this site. I speak more sense then most people I've seen posting. Based off of what we've heard and seen with the direction they've taken with the 360 do you really think they are going to change their architecture drastically to better suite the hardcore gaming crowed? I doubt it. They have been going the way of family/casual the last few years with the odd IP to make their current fanbase at least slightly happy.  I at least sound grounded in what I say More then half the people on this site come off as fanboys or people who spew random information with zero thought behind it.

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#154 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:I_can_haz
:cool: Not really 'cos no matter what they do they can't make it more powerful than the PS4. They can close the gap but if they wanna stay competitive as well as have Kinect 2.0 they are gonna have to gimp the hardware in some way.

You and I don't know sh!t about what is going inside that console,i believe MS first focus was to go after the Wii success and probably steal the thunder of the WII U and now they are re-focusing to go after the PS4 too,companies have multiple Hardware configurations / and business models.
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#155 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="wazzap76"]

It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

StrongBlackVine

Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.

Early PS4 specs were weaker compare to Xbox one,they bumped the specs..when they got to know MS was going with 8GB of RAM..they went commando and added 8GB to their DDR5 setup... all companies configure their hardware for possible future changes.
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#156 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="wazzap76"]

It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

Tessellation

Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.

Early PS4 specs were weaker compare to Xbox one,they bumped the specs..when they got to know MS was going with 8GB of RAM..they went commando and added 8GB to their DDR5 setup... all companies configure their hardware for possible future changes.

Not really. Early PS4 specs were always ahead of 720. They had a better GPU from the get go and faster RAM (4GB GDDR5). They just upped it at the last second to further make sure that their hardware supremacy would be guaranteed. :lol: It's clear that M$ wasn't expecting that, hence why we have them hitting panic stations now. They knew Sony would have superior specs they just didn't know it would be as large as it ended up being when Sony announced.

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#157 k2theswiss
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Hey why not? Get the hype going in may and keep it going to E3 to renew the hype
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#158 TheWalkingGhost
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Maybe they found out it sucked and wanted to fix it?
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#159 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.

I_can_haz

Early PS4 specs were weaker compare to Xbox one,they bumped the specs..when they got to know MS was going with 8GB of RAM..they went commando and added 8GB to their DDR5 setup... all companies configure their hardware for possible future changes.

Not really. Early PS4 specs were always ahead of 720. They had a better GPU from the get go and faster RAM (4GB GDDR5). They just upped it at the last second to further make sure that their hardware supremacy would be guaranteed. :lol: It's clear that M$ wasn't expecting that, hence why we have them hitting panic stations now. They knew Sony would have superior specs they just didn't know it would be as large as it ended up being when Sony announced.

PS4 early specs were 2 cores 2GB/4GB of DDR5,xbox was always something around 4/8 cores and 8gigs of RAM

- 2 x86 core pairs (in this case the system would mount steamroller cpus)

- 4 GB instead of 8 GB

- RAM bandwith is set to 192 GB/s

http://www.vgleaks.com/playstation-4-architecture-evolution-over-time/

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#160 xscrapzx
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Again as easy as it is to bash MS, they know what they are doing when it comes to things they are good at. The Xbox brand is something they are good at.

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#161 casharmy
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Lems need to thank Sony, MS was going to release $#!* in a box but at least now they are going to try.  Really that is what all this is about.

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#162 NFJSupreme
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if this is true Sony might have blew their wad a little too early.  

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#163 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Someone decided they needed a redesign :P
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#164 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Lems need to thank Sony, MS was going to release $#!* in a box but at least now they are going to try.  Really that is what all this is about.

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Luckily MS have a great history with rushed hardware :D
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#165 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Lems need to thank Sony, MS was going to release $#!* in a box but at least now they are going to try.  Really that is what all this is about.

blue_hazy_basic

Luckily MS have a great history with rushed hardware :D

indeed guaranteed to last at least 3 days or you get 20 xbl points

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#166 campzor
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may 1st? Jesus, why not just make it at e3..
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#167 mitu123
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Not cool, now we have to wait even longer to make fun of it.

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#168 StrongBlackVine
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Not cool, now we have to wait even longer to make fun of it.

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Exactly. Rats expecting something better than PS4 will be sorely disappointed. Is Bieber or Usher touring right now?

Katy Perry will probably MC the Xbox unveil since females are the new "core."

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#169 silversix_
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I knew they were remaking the whole 720 specs after announced ps4 ones destroyed theirs.
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#170 StrongBlackVine
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I knew they were remaking the whole 720 specs after announced ps4 ones destroyed theirs.silversix_

LOL you do remake an entire console in 3 months! But good for the lemmings who were going to buy one regardless that some improvement might possibly be made.

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#171 Phazevariance
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Well MS obviously can't remake their console specs last second and begin manufacturing them. It's just not plausible, but they sure are acting kinda strange being so super secret. Either they have a megaton system secret or they are in some hot water and are searching for a quick way out.

Easiest way out, add a gimick and sell it as if its the newest thing since sliced bread. Then the common gamer will overlook whatever the hardware specs lack until its too late. I mean, unless the leaked specs from last year were fake to get Sony to jump the gun while MS actually worked on an already superior console... but that sounds a little far fetched.

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#172 jimmypsn
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Well MS obviously can't remake their console specs last second and begin manufacturing them. It's just not plausible, but they sure are acting kinda strange being so super secret. Either they have a megaton system secret or they are in some hot water and are searching for a quick way out.

 

Easiest way out, add a gimick and sell it as if its the newest thing since sliced bread. Then the common gamer will overlook whatever the hardware specs lack until its too late. I mean, unless the leaked specs from last year were fake to get Sony to jump the gun while MS actually worked on an already superior console... but that sounds a little far fetched.

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That's the thing. No one knows. Everything is rumor. You're right though. It's too late to just start fresh with a new system. Planning of a system design takes years not months. MS is not gonna change things completely around just because of Sony's announcement. They probably have contracts with third party suppliers already in the process of being put together for the 720 build process.

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#173 Mario1331
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Well MS obviously can't remake their console specs last second and begin manufacturing them. It's just not plausible, but they sure are acting kinda strange being so super secret. Either they have a megaton system secret or they are in some hot water and are searching for a quick way out.

 

Easiest way out, add a gimick and sell it as if its the newest thing since sliced bread. Then the common gamer will overlook whatever the hardware specs lack until its too late. I mean, unless the leaked specs from last year were fake to get Sony to jump the gun while MS actually worked on an already superior console... but that sounds a little far fetched.

Phazevariance

MS in no way needs to make a console stronger than the PS4. its not a good business strategy

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#174 Shewgenja
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That's okay, Sony still has some wiggle room with their specs as well.  As long as we haven't seen what the console looks like, that means no one can interpolate what kind of colling solution it will use.

 

Anyone remember the heat sink on the original fatty PS3?  That thing was almost as much a space heater as the original XBox.  We know Sony can go big when they have to.

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#175 StrongBlackVine
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That's okay, Sony still has some wiggle room with their specs as well. As long as we haven't seen what the console looks like, that means no one can interpolate what kind of colling solution it will use.

Anyone remember the heat sink on the original fatty PS3? That thing was almost as much a space heater as the original XBox. We know Sony can go big when they have to.

Shewgenja

That is exactly why Sony did not confirm the exact specs of the GPU or CPU...for all we know they may intend to increase the specs of both from what we were told. Sony announced first, but didn't give every thing away.Certainly put some heat on M$ though!

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#176 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

That's okay, Sony still has some wiggle room with their specs as well. As long as we haven't seen what the console looks like, that means no one can interpolate what kind of colling solution it will use.

 

Anyone remember the heat sink on the original fatty PS3? That thing was almost as much a space heater as the original XBox. We know Sony can go big when they have to.

StrongBlackVine

That is exactly why Sony did not confirm the exact specs of the GPU or CPU...for all we know they may intend to increase the specs of both from what we were told. Sony announced first, but didn't give every thing away.Certainly put some heat on M$ though!

 

Meanwhile, at Sony HQ:

lol

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#177 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

Well MS obviously can't remake their console specs last second and begin manufacturing them. It's just not plausible, but they sure are acting kinda strange being so super secret. Either they have a megaton system secret or they are in some hot water and are searching for a quick way out.

 

Easiest way out, add a gimick and sell it as if its the newest thing since sliced bread. Then the common gamer will overlook whatever the hardware specs lack until its too late. I mean, unless the leaked specs from last year were fake to get Sony to jump the gun while MS actually worked on an already superior console... but that sounds a little far fetched.

Mario1331

MS in no way needs to make a console stronger than the PS4. its not a good business strategy

No but they need to be close enough that gamers don't notice a major difference. With this generation having both companies using hardware of similar architecture, the differences will end up being across the board, as in if one game looks better, probably all games will look better on one console or the other. If the GPU/CPU are close, then ram speed will just help with texture pop-in and loading times. To the common gamer, that's hardly noticeable, but to see lower resolution textures, and less special effect quality, the average person can notice those differences. Still, super secret = no evidence = could be anything = Schrodinger's cat.
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#178 MasterX666
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Back at the drawing board because of PS4 overkill :twisted:

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#179 wolverine4262
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The 360 was announced in May of 2005 and it did just fine. Im more worried about the reports that they arent talking to developers so much...
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#180 Eddie-Murphy48
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Lems need to thank Sony, MS was going to release $#!* in a box but at least now they are going to try.  Really that is what all this is about.

casharmy

 

I doubt they are changing anything, Sonys hype conference died so fast, satan got converted to a jew, the only reason why they are doing it later is to be earlye noguh to get people interested, buit have enough hype lstill left into E3.

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#181 Eddie-Murphy48
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Not cool, now we have to wait even longer to make fun of it.

StrongBlackVine

Exactly. Rats expecting something better than PS4 will be sorely disappointed. Is Bieber or Usher touring right now?

Katy Perry will probably MC the Xbox unveil since females are the new "core."

 

Sony is the only company that stated they will start focusing their products on women, and Usher is on sony's record lable.

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#182 mariokart64fan
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and people are saying wiiu is a joke wait and see if ms launches a console twice the power as ps4 then what will you say then remember we have no  confirmation on those rumored specs,   and this is what happens when sony launches first lol ,    you can bet every sony fanboy will say its ok its still next gen ,

 

in any case--- it could be good ms is pushing it back or it could hurt them  

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#183 Cherokee_Jack
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God, hurry it up. I want to buy my octacore. :[