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Complete and total failure of a console.
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Microsft is clearly nervous, running out of options and scrambling to find ways to make their Facebook box look somewhat appealing to gamers.
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Good luck lemmings!
This has never been an announcement scheduled for the next xbox. People assumed the count down to E3 is going to be one, but MS hasn't said anything. MS sure doesn't want to give up any news early, because we all know Sony will copy, just like they did with the PS3.
People need to have some patience. Go and do something. Maybe play some games?[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
I could make some smartass wisecrack about playing the next big 360 exclusive in the mean time but...meh. Just announce the fecking console, this is boring. -_-
Zaibach
He would but he only has a 360
Ouch.[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]
Complete and total failure of a console.
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Microsft is clearly nervous, running out of options and scrambling to find ways to make their Facebook box look somewhat appealing to gamers.
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Good luck lemmings!
I_can_haz
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#JUMPOUT
16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.charizard1605
Lol. Probably a last-minute RAM upgrade for the console. Since it was rumored the 720 would have 4GB then boom Sony reveals the PS4 to have twice that. M$ might as well just wait for E3 at this point, maybe their E3 will be something other than showing how not-about-gaming their system is.
Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.RR360DD
Probably more like avoid complete embarassment.
did ps4 specs scare them that bad?stereointegrity
Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.
did ps4 specs scare them that bad?stereointegrity:lol: It obviously did. They thought Sony was gonna come out of the gates weak and demoralized. I dunno why they'd think that considering how much of a beast Sony has been these past few years releasing megaton exclusives like its nothing.
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]did ps4 specs scare them that bad?MonsieurX
Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.
Finishing last? :|Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.RR360DD
Probably more like avoid complete embarassment.
Whatever fanboyPot. Kettle.
What are some things MS can add at the last minute? A few gigs of ram? Activate more shader pipleines on the GPU? Up the clock on the CPU? Microsoft is so rich you Cows shouldn't be so confident, they very well could be taking the time to one up Sony in some way. Magescrew
Microsoft management nor their investors are interested in taking massivve losses so that is irrelevant. It would be a foolish move to put all their money into consoles when they are trying to compete with superior companies like Google and Apple in other areas.
What are some things MS can add at the last minute? A few gigs of ram? Activate more shader pipleines on the GPU? Up the clock on the CPU? Microsoft is so rich you Cows shouldn't be so confident, they very well could be taking the time to one up Sony in some way. MagescrewThey can't do anything significant or they risk a 2014 launch or RROD Part 2.
Finishing last? :|[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.
StrongBlackVine
Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.
In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Finishing last? :|MonsieurX
Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.
In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.
In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.
StrongBlackVine
In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.
Quite an achievement,congrats. Â[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?MonsieurX
In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.
Quite an achievement,congrats. ÂBetter than last.
Actually. This is more of a revealing move than you think. MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720. If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.
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They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware. With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals. The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care? It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even. It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.
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Check and Mate, Lems.. and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/
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Actually. This is more of a revealing move than you think. MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720. If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.
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They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware. With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals. The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care? It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even. It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.
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Check and Mate, Lems.. and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/
Shewgenja
I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3.Actually. This is more of a revealing move than you think. MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720. If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.
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They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware. With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals. The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care? It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even. It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.
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Check and Mate, Lems.. and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/
Shewgenja
but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:TessellationI'm sure some will, but I think you'll find that most will gladly welcome a PS2 versus XBox1 rematch. Especially when the games look like my signature.
but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:Tessellation:cool: Not really 'cos no matter what they do they can't make it more powerful than the PS4. They can close the gap but if they wanna stay competitive as well as have Kinect 2.0 they are gonna have to gimp the hardware in some way.
I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.   They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4. Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.  But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.  Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4.. So maybe now was a good time to announce it.
[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]Actually. This is more of a revealing move than you think. MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720. If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.
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They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware. With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals. The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care? It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even. It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.
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Check and Mate, Lems.. and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/
Magescrew
I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3. lol did u call the ps4 cpu an i3 equivalent :lol:Actually. This is more of a revealing move than you think. MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720. If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.
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They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware. With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals. The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care? It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even. It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.
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Check and Mate, Lems.. and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/
Shewgenja
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Magescrew"] I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3. MagescrewAny serious change to hardware like you're suggesting is impossible at this point. Not if they want to release before 2014. At this point they should have already finalized the specs and be getting ready for mass production not changing processors and GPUs. You seem to think changing GPUs and CPUs is as easy as it is for PC when it comes to consoles. It doesn't work that way. They won't change the GPU now, it's too late. the best they can do is up the DDR3 RAM from 8GB to 16GB and maybe beef up the CPU.Where did I say they were changing everything? I was implying that it could already have been planned to be more powerful than the PS4, and that this is a possibility due to the PS4 being equal in power to a mid-range gaming PC. Of course for this to happen those rumors about the 720s hardware have to be false. Okay but you should have been more clear in your post. The way you worded it seemed like you meant that MS could easily change the hardware right now. In any case, the rumors are most likely correct. Lems will just have to accept that MS isn't interested in releasing the more powerful hardware. They've made it clear already that they wanna go after the casuals big time next gen.
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Quite an achievement,congrats. Â
MonsieurX
Better than last.
Yup. :cry:Aw well 2 out of the last 3 generations isn't bad...
I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.   They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4. Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.  But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.  Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4.. So maybe now was a good time to announce it.
Crossel777
Its impossible to re-spec a console at the drop of a hat. If they actually are then be prepared for a mid to late 2014 launch.
I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.   They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4. Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.  But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.  Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4.. So maybe now was a good time to announce it.
Crossel777
Sony has said their specs are subject to change. They left a bit of wiggle room to respond to Microsoft...
Quite an achievement,congrats. Â[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.
StrongBlackVine
Better than last.
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:lol: Â almost 7 years bragging about 2nd place. Now they don't care. Â Â :lol:
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and is not just the 2nd place but the fact that the Xbox brand is in a miserable state right now. M$ already abandoned the 360 (just like they did last gen) and all lems have is to cling and hope for next gen to arrive already. But this is what happen when you bet on the wrong horse.
It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it. I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.
It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it. I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.
wazzap76
Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.
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