Xbox 720 Announcement Delayed From April To May

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#101 RR360DD
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Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.
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#102 Douevenlift_bro
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Complete and total failure of a console.

 

Microsft is clearly nervous, running out of options and scrambling to find ways to make their Facebook box look somewhat appealing to gamers.

 

Good luck lemmings!

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#103 I_can_haz
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Complete and total failure of a console.

 

Microsft is clearly nervous, running out of options and scrambling to find ways to make their Facebook box look somewhat appealing to gamers.

 

Good luck lemmings!

Douevenlift_bro

 

:cool:

 

#JUMPOUT

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#104 jimmypsn
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MS will be ready.  Trust me.

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#105 rrjim1
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This has never been an announcement scheduled for the next xbox. People assumed the count down to E3 is going to be one, but MS hasn't said anything. MS sure doesn't want to give up any news early, because we all know Sony will copy, just like they did with the PS3.

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#106 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

I could make some smartass wisecrack about playing the next big 360 exclusive in the mean time but...meh. Just announce the fecking console, this is boring. -_-

Zaibach

People need to have some patience. Go and do something. Maybe play some games?

He would but he only has a 360

Ouch.

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#107 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

Complete and total failure of a console.

 

Microsft is clearly nervous, running out of options and scrambling to find ways to make their Facebook box look somewhat appealing to gamers.

 

Good luck lemmings!

I_can_haz

 

:cool:

 

#JUMPOUT

There it is. :)

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#108 svaubel
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16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.charizard1605

Lol. Probably a last-minute RAM upgrade for the console. Since it was rumored the 720 would have 4GB then boom Sony reveals the PS4 to have twice that. M$ might as well just wait for E3 at this point, maybe their E3 will be something other than showing how not-about-gaming their system is.

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#110 StrongBlackVine
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Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.RR360DD

Probably more like avoid complete embarassment.

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#111 stereointegrity
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did ps4 specs scare them that bad?
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#112 StrongBlackVine
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did ps4 specs scare them that bad?stereointegrity

Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.

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#113 I_can_haz
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did ps4 specs scare them that bad?stereointegrity
:lol: It obviously did. They thought Sony was gonna come out of the gates weak and demoralized. I dunno why they'd think that considering how much of a beast Sony has been these past few years releasing megaton exclusives like its nothing.
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#114 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]did ps4 specs scare them that bad?StrongBlackVine

Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.

Finishing last? :|
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#115 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.StrongBlackVine

Probably more like avoid complete embarassment.

Whatever fanboy

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#116 aroxx_ab
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Bah that's bad, 1 month delay, i had really looked forward to all those Kinect 2.0 bashing gifs now in april :cry:

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#117 jimmypsn
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Its been confirmed.  The announcement for MS next Xbox is revealed.  Here. Enjoy.

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#118 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]did ps4 specs scare them that bad?MonsieurX

Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.

Finishing last? :|

Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.

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#119 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hopefully its more time to better Sony. Competition is a good thing.RR360DD

Probably more like avoid complete embarassment.

Whatever fanboy

Pot. Kettle.

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#120 Magescrew
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What are some things MS can add at the last minute? A few gigs of ram? Activate more shader pipleines on the GPU? Up the clock on the CPU? Microsoft is so rich you Cows shouldn't be so confident, they very well could be taking the time to one up Sony in some way.
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#121 StrongBlackVine
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What are some things MS can add at the last minute? A few gigs of ram? Activate more shader pipleines on the GPU? Up the clock on the CPU? Microsoft is so rich you Cows shouldn't be so confident, they very well could be taking the time to one up Sony in some way. Magescrew

Microsoft management nor their investors are interested in taking massivve losses so that is irrelevant. It would be a foolish move to put all their money into consoles when they are trying to compete with superior companies like Google and Apple in other areas.

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#122 I_can_haz
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What are some things MS can add at the last minute? A few gigs of ram? Activate more shader pipleines on the GPU? Up the clock on the CPU? Microsoft is so rich you Cows shouldn't be so confident, they very well could be taking the time to one up Sony in some way. Magescrew
They can't do anything significant or they risk a 2014 launch or RROD Part 2.
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#123 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Microsoft probably expected a cakewalk this generation. I have no idea why after finishing last and losing all momentum.

StrongBlackVine

Finishing last? :|

Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.

In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?
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#124 trollhunter2
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sfd.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

:lol: sorry i had to

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#125 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Finishing last? :|MonsieurX

Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.

In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?

In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.

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#126 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Yeah 360 will be last by the release of the PS4/Durango if they are not already.

StrongBlackVine

In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?

In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.

Quite an achievement,congrats. ­

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#127 jimmypsn
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Its been confirmed.  The announcement for MS next Xbox is revealed.  Here. Enjoy.

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#128 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] In terms of what? Can you lend me your magic crystal ball?MonsieurX

In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.

Quite an achievement,congrats. ­

Better than last.

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#129 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.

StrongBlackVine

Quite an achievement,congrats. ­

Better than last.

Yup. :cry:
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#130 Merex760
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At this point why not just wait till E3?

Animal-Mother
Cause they won't have time with the Usher concert and lolKinectSWAGfest
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#131 Shewgenja
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Actually.  This is more of a revealing move than you think.  MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720.  If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.

 

They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware.  With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals.  The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care?  It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even.  It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.

 

Check and Mate, Lems..  and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/

 

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Actually.  This is more of a revealing move than you think.  MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720.  If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.

 

They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware.  With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals.  The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care?  It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even.  It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.

 

Check and Mate, Lems..  and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/

Shewgenja

Actually.  This is more of a revealing move than you think.  MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720.  If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.

 

They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware.  With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals.  The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care?  It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even.  It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.

 

Check and Mate, Lems..  and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/

Shewgenja
I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3.
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#133 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="Magescrew"] I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3.

Any serious change to hardware like you're suggesting is impossible at this point. Not if they want to release before 2014. At this point they should have already finalized the specs and be getting ready for mass production not changing processors and GPUs. You seem to think changing GPUs and CPUs is as easy as it is for PC when it comes to consoles. It doesn't work that way. They won't change the GPU now, it's too late. the best they can do is up the DDR3 RAM from 8GB to 16GB and maybe beef up the CPU.
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#134 Tessellation
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but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:
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#135 Shewgenja
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but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:Tessellation
I'm sure some will, but I think you'll find that most will gladly welcome a PS2 versus XBox1 rematch.  Especially when the games look like my signature.

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#136 I_can_haz
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but if they bump the specs cows are going to damage control and be massively butthurt :cool:Tessellation
:cool: Not really 'cos no matter what they do they can't make it more powerful than the PS4. They can close the gap but if they wanna stay competitive as well as have Kinect 2.0 they are gonna have to gimp the hardware in some way.
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#137 Magescrew
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Magescrew"] I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3.

Any serious change to hardware like you're suggesting is impossible at this point. Not if they want to release before 2014. At this point they should have already finalized the specs and be getting ready for mass production not changing processors and GPUs. You seem to think changing GPUs and CPUs is as easy as it is for PC when it comes to consoles. It doesn't work that way. They won't change the GPU now, it's too late. the best they can do is up the DDR3 RAM from 8GB to 16GB and maybe beef up the CPU.

Where did I say they were changing everything? I was implying that it could already have been planned to be more powerful than the PS4, and that this is a possibility due to the PS4 being equal in power to a mid-range gaming PC. Of course for this to happen those rumors about the 720s hardware have to be false.
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I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.    They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4.  Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.   But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.   Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4..  So maybe now was a good time to announce it.

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#139 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Actually.  This is more of a revealing move than you think.  MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720.  If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.

 

They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware.  With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals.  The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care?  It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even.  It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.

 

Check and Mate, Lems..  and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/

Magescrew

Actually.  This is more of a revealing move than you think.  MS isn't just showing a lack of confidence in their prospected hardware, they are showing trepidation in their entire direction for the 720.  If they thought for a second they could emulate the Wii's success by pushing a low-powered Kinectbox, they wouldn't be pushing back their reveal or re-spec their system.

 

They are clearly retooling their business strategy as well as the hardware.  With the WiiU bombing as hard as it has, it is likely a wise move to not bet the farm on casuals.  The thing is, even if they have better specs than the PS4, will anyone care?  It's not like they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and the difference between 720 and PS4 will be like PS2 versus XBox, even.  It would either cost too much or delay the launch to 2014.

 

Check and Mate, Lems..  and in case anyone has any doubt that there has been, indeed, a respec:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398427/nobody-knows-final-next-gen-hardware-specs-dice-exec-suggests/

Shewgenja
I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3.

lol did u call the ps4 cpu an i3 equivalent :lol:
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#140 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Magescrew"] I don't really think it would be hard for Microsoft to one up the PS4 on hardware if they WANTED to. An Xbox - PS2 differential is quite achievable, seeing as the PS4 is using a mid range 7850 and a processor that is probably on par with an overclocked Core i3. Magescrew
Any serious change to hardware like you're suggesting is impossible at this point. Not if they want to release before 2014. At this point they should have already finalized the specs and be getting ready for mass production not changing processors and GPUs. You seem to think changing GPUs and CPUs is as easy as it is for PC when it comes to consoles. It doesn't work that way. They won't change the GPU now, it's too late. the best they can do is up the DDR3 RAM from 8GB to 16GB and maybe beef up the CPU.

Where did I say they were changing everything? I was implying that it could already have been planned to be more powerful than the PS4, and that this is a possibility due to the PS4 being equal in power to a mid-range gaming PC. Of course for this to happen those rumors about the 720s hardware have to be false.

Okay but you should have been more clear in your post. The way you worded it seemed like you meant that MS could easily change the hardware right now. In any case, the rumors are most likely correct. Lems will just have to accept that MS isn't interested in releasing the more powerful hardware. They've made it clear already that they wanna go after the casuals big time next gen.

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#141 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Quite an achievement,congrats. ­

MonsieurX

Better than last.

Yup. :cry:

Aw well 2 out of the last 3 generations isn't bad...

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I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.    They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4.  Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.   But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.   Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4..  So maybe now was a good time to announce it.

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Its impossible to re-spec a console at the drop of a hat. If they actually are then be prepared for a mid to late 2014 launch.

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They have to be changing something the question is what.

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#144 Michael0134567
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Meh, I can wait another month.

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#145 StrongBlackVine
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I think it's pretty obvious by now MS has been completely overwhelmed by Sony and it's awesome PS4 specs.    They're probably making changes as we speak to make the next XBOX a better specced console than the PS4.  Of course it doesn't mean jack without any games to show.   But perhaps Sony should of waited until MS showed their console first then unleashed the PS4 specs.   Then again, the preorders are through the roof for the PS4..  So maybe now was a good time to announce it.

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Sony has said their specs are subject to change. They left a bit of wiggle room to respond to Microsoft...

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#146 Gue1
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Sony forcing M$ to adjust the next-Xbox specs and features after seeing how incredible the PS4 is.  :cool:

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#147 Gue1
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

In terms of total consoles sold. This is not a crazy prediction. It is going to happen.

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Quite an achievement,congrats. ­

Better than last.

 

:lol:  almost 7 years bragging about 2nd place. Now they don't care.   :lol:

 

and is not just the 2nd place but the fact that the Xbox brand is in a miserable state right now. M$ already abandoned the 360 (just like they did last gen) and all lems have is to cling and hope for next gen to arrive already. But this is what happen when you bet on the wrong horse.

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#148 wazzap76
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It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

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#149 sonic_spark
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Maybe Microsoft is adding more RAM.

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#150 StrongBlackVine
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It's hilarious watching so many people on this site talk like this means a complete or even partial re-spec of the machine. People obviously have zero clue as to how development of such things happens or and the business aspects behind it.  I'm no expert but I'm not dumb enough to think OMFG sony scared Microsoft now they are making their machine better and stronger. Ya because years of research and development go out the window just like that... People are idiots. This site seems to have a lot of them too.

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Microsoft did a minor respec last generaton so small changes might be possible.