Xbox 720 Announcement Delayed From April To May

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#51 ronvalencia
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16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.charizard1605

Unlikely, but GDDR5M shares the same JEDEC SODIMM standard as DDR4.

SODIMM standard is use for laptop PCs.

JEDEC's DDR4/GDDR5 SODIMM standard relates to AMD Kaveri APU's GDDR5 support http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2013/3/5/amd-kaveri-unveiled-pc-architecture-gets-gddr5.aspx

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#52 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.ronvalencia

Unlikely, but GDDR5M shares the same JEDEC SODIMM standard as DDR4.

SODIMM standard is use for laptop PCs.

JEDEC's DDR4/GDDR5 SODIMM standard relates to AMD Kaveri APU's GDDR5 support http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2013/3/5/amd-kaveri-unveiled-pc-architecture-gets-gddr5.aspx

 

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They're retreating men! Send them back over the hills!
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#54 WitIsWisdom
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Well, delays are not always a bad thing... if anything, being more of a SONY fan overall, this brings the 720 back into the "mystery realm" again. That is a TON more hype then I had for it before. Who knows exactly what the delay could be for (if there is one at all), but you have to think it probably had something to do with the PS4 reveal. My biggest guess would be it has something to do with "allowing used games" afterall. That would be the best move for Microsoft IF the rumors were true. I think that Microsoft probably fully expected SONY to block used games, and now they are scrambling and trying to switch their plan. If one console allows used games (even if you have to buy online passes) and the other doesn't... I think that could spell disaster. It would not be to hard for them to change their plan around this new structure but still charge for passes like SONY might.

Yeah, this is just a guess, but I seriously doubt they are going to try and respec the console this near reveal. That would take time and money that Microsoft may have, but would put them in the red financially for a couple years, and also set them back at least a year. Microsoft isn't stupid, they must see the slow start that SONY got off to with the PS3 after a year delay and etc. etc.

Hell maybe they are adding Windows...

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#55 Kaszilla
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it will not be a machine you or I care about that much, no, that machine will be the PS4charizard1605
So it'll be like the Wii U?

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#56 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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sfd.

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#57 NoirLamia777
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wtf just save it for e3 if it's going to be that late jeeze.

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#58 KiZZo1
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Can you make a game in a month?

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#59 Nengo_Flow
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its official, they are re-doing the 720 after they saw the PS4. first the had a change in production, now they are moving the announcement date?
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#60 wazzap76
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Well, delays are not always a bad thing... if anything, being more of a SONY fan overall, this brings the 720 back into the "mystery realm" again. That is a TON more hype then I had for it before. Who knows exactly what the delay could be for (if there is one at all), but you have to think it probably had something to do with the PS4 reveal. My biggest guess would be it has something to do with "allowing used games" afterall. That would be the best move for Microsoft IF the rumors were true. I think that Microsoft probably fully expected SONY to block used games, and now they are scrambling and trying to switch their plan. If one console allows used games (even if you have to buy online passes) and the other doesn't... I think that could spell disaster. It would not be to hard for them to change their plan around this new structure but still charge for passes like SONY might.

Yeah, this is just a guess, but I seriously doubt they are going to try and respec the console this near reveal. That would take time and money that Microsoft may have, but would put them in the red financially for a couple years, and also set them back at least a year. Microsoft isn't stupid, they must see the slow start that SONY got off to with the PS3 after a year delay and etc. etc.

Hell maybe they are adding Windows...

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It's supposed to be working on a windows 8 kernal( A trimmed down version of windows 8)

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16GB GDDR6

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#62 Lionheart08
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If it's really being pushed back into May, why not just wait for E3?

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#63 jimmypsn
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The only thing that has come from MS was the countdown by Major Nelson to E3.  Absolutely nothing has been confirmed.  Just rumors rumors everywhere. 

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#64 Kaszilla
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They should put in a better gpu.
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#65 Heil68
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But miketheman83 said a big announcement in 2 weeks that will make cows cry! He has inside(lol) info too!
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#66 KBFloYd
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they probably weren't able to get all their 720 game demos ready in time..

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#67 OldSnakePS3
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dammit i wanted some new kinnect gifs :lol:

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I do notice a huge thing going around not just on gamespot but every gaming message board I visit.  People are getting absolutely restless. And are dying from any morsel or crumb of information from MS in regards to the next Xbox.  It is the funniest thing to see.  I get a kick out of it.

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#69 MonsieurX
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I do notice a huge thing going around not just on gamespot but every gaming message board I visit.  People are getting absolutely restless. And are dying from any morsel or crumb of information from MS in regards to the next Xbox.  It is the funniest thing to see.  I get a kick out of it.

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And we get the kick out of your posts,fair trade.
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#70 Mrmedia01
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Cuz they have no games to show.FinalFighters

 

Maybe MS realized they have 6 Kinect 720 games and 1 new IP they can show and they know that this is crap compared to what Sony has offered so far. LOL good though because now they will push to make more games and Sony wiill do the same and Nintendo will do the same and all the gamers of the world will be in Heaven in 2014 when all these awesome games come out.

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#71 NEWMAHAY
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Might as well wait to announce it at E3
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#72 StrongBlackVine
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they probably weren't able to get all their 720 game demos ready in time..

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I hear those motions sensors can be tricky...

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#73 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

psymon100

I could see that happening. 

But then, this would cause a retail launch delay by at least a year.

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#74 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="FinalFighters"]Cuz they have no games to show.Mrmedia01

 

Maybe MS realized they have 6 Kinect 720 games and 1 new IP they can show and they know that this is crap compared to what Sony has offered so far. LOL

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Also a very likely scenario.

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#75 tormentos
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Hahaha... So MS was really catch off guard by sony's announcement.:lol: Poor MS...
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I could make some smartass wisecrack about playing the next big 360 exclusive in the mean time but...meh. Just announce the fecking console, the longer this goes on the harder it'll be to impress. -_-

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#77 NEWMAHAY
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.ronvalencia

Unlikely...........................................

Like Charizard was totally serious when he said 16gb...
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#78 lundy86_4
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If true, then hopefully for good reasons. Microsoft have some great things to bring over into the next-gen (not so much Kinect), so i'd love to see a 360-esque system with a bigger focus on graphics, and a bigger push from them in terms of first-party (not including XBLA).

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#79 jimmypsn
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I could make some smartass wisecrack about playing the next big 360 exclusive in the mean time but...meh. Just announce the fecking console, this is boring. -_-

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People need to have some patience. Go and do something. Maybe play some games?
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#80 Heil68
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I do notice a huge thing going around not just on gamespot but every gaming message board I visit.  People are getting absolutely restless. And are dying from any morsel or crumb of information from MS in regards to the next Xbox.  It is the funniest thing to see.  I get a kick out of it.

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#81 WilliamRLBaker
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lol Wimp Lo's so funny they cant make up their minds first its E3 is the place for console annoucements making fun when MS does it outside of E3 then sony does it and e3 isnt worthwhile now its they arent ready should just wait till e3.
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16 GB GDDR6 RAM incoming.charizard1605
Cows be pwned.
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#83 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

I could make some smartass wisecrack about playing the next big 360 exclusive in the mean time but...meh. Just announce the fecking console, this is boring. -_-

jimmypsn

People need to have some patience. Go and do something. Maybe play some games?

He would but he only has a 360

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#84 kalipekona
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What do I make of it? Most likely that Sony caught MS off guard and now they feel they need more time to effectively counter.

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#85 xhawk27
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They are trying to get rid of the Always Online and blocking used games. 

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Hahaha... So MS was really catch off guard by sony's announcement.:lol: Poor MS...tormentos

That Kaz is one tricky mofo. :x

We would let MS go first. :(

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#87 2Chalupas
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

charizard1605

It's too late to re-spec a games console without a) taking a massive hit as far as finances are concerned, and b) delaying the console's release by at least a year, giving Sony a clear playing field. No, these things are planned well in time. It is possible that maybe Microsoft was taken aback at how high specc'd the PS4 was, but they will not re-spec the next Xbox.

They could delay it until 2014 if necessary to change the specs. I agree it seems WAY to late now though to hit a 2013 launch unless the specs are 99.99% final.

If it's just a matter of bumping RAM from 4 to 8GB, or maybe going with a higher CPU clock speed, that would probably only cause a slight delay. Although at some point if you are hitting a 2013 window not only do specs need to be final, but production would have to be getting ramped up in the next few months. 

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#88 tionmedon
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they r respecing or redoing the 720.........but that`s ok,i will still buy one.....

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#89 xhawk27
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This sucks. They might as well wait for E3 now. :(

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

charizard1605

It's too late to re-spec a games console without a) taking a massive hit as far as finances are concerned, and b) delaying the console's release by at least a year, giving Sony a clear playing field. No, these things are planned well in time. It is possible that maybe Microsoft was taken aback at how high specc'd the PS4 was, but they will not re-spec the next Xbox.

 

Not totally true.  They are stuck with what they have in silicon, but they can still tweak frequencies.  

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What do I make of it? Most likely that Sony caught MS off guard and now they feel they need more time to effectively counter.

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I find it incredible that anyone actually thinks these consoles are designed, developed, sent out as dev kits to thousands of developers, and somehow a secret until the day they are launched. Microsoft knew exactly what the PS4 was going to be months before anyone else did. And Sony know what the next xbox is going to be right now.
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Tweet

The next Xbox was reported to be announced in late April, something that Microsoft insiders had confirmed, along with corroboration by way of the registration of the xboxevent.com domain. Now it seems, however, that they are delaying it to late May, pushing it periliously close to E3.

What do you all make of this?

charizard1605

Who the hell is Paul Thurrott and why should we believe him. I'll wait for Microsoft to officially announce the delay, if there's really one.

 

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Microsoft needs more time for damage control.

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More time for a thorough ownage is more likely.

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#94 jimmypsn
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Tweet

The next Xbox was reported to be announced in late April, something that Microsoft insiders had confirmed, along with corroboration by way of the registration of the xboxevent.com domain. Now it seems, however, that they are delaying it to late May, pushing it periliously close to E3.

What do you all make of this?

blackace
Who the hell is Paul Thurrott and why should we believe him. I'll wait for Microsoft to officially announce the delay, if there's really one.

I have the exact same question. it would be extra funny if we are talking based on some random guy on twitter making up crap. LOL.
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It's too late to re-spec a games console without a) taking a massive hit as far as finances are concerned, and b) delaying the console's release by at least a year, giving Sony a clear playing field. No, these things are planned well in time. It is possible that maybe Microsoft was taken aback at how high specc'd the PS4 was, but they will not re-spec the next Xbox.charizard1605

 

Yet Sony surprised their own devs when they announced the PS4 recently with 8 GB ram while their games where targeted on half that amount so Sony can but MS can't ?

And maybe they won't have to as nothing about the next Xbox is even announced .

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Word on the street is that The Nextbox is actually Kinect. Just a new Kinect.

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Hahaha... So MS was really catch off guard by sony's announcement.:lol: Poor MS...tormentos
:lol:

 

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Tweet

The next Xbox was reported to be announced in late April, something that Microsoft insiders had confirmed, along with corroboration by way of the registration of the xboxevent.com domain. Now it seems, however, that they are delaying it to late May, pushing it periliously close to E3.

What do you all make of this?

blackace

Who the hell is Paul Thurrott and why should we believe him. I'll wait for Microsoft to officially announce the delay, if there's really one.

 

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Microsoft needs more time for damage control.

StrongBlackVine



More time for a thorough ownage is more likely.

Yeah...you totally are not a fanboy.

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[QUOTE="tormentos"]Hahaha... So MS was really catch off guard by sony's announcement.:lol: Poor MS...I_can_haz

:lol:

 

You tricked MS, Kaz! You mean man! :(

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#100 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Hahaha... So MS was really catch off guard by sony's announcement.:lol: Poor MS...xhawk27

:lol:

 

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tBtr40x.jpg[IMG]

You tricked MS, Kaz! You mean man! :(

 :lol: #ThankYouBasedKaz