Xbox 720 to not have blu-ray.

[QUOTE="micky4889"]for people saying Blu Ray as a whole is slow think about this A 6x blu ray drive is twice the speed of the 360s drive which means zero installs and zero pop ins and very quiet (due to low RPM) In fact i don't think theres a dvd drive on the market the can keep up with 6x blu raydreman999

No your think of the PS3s drive which is only 2x blu ray

6x wasn't available at the time or else it was just too expensive for Sony to use

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]wow thats stupid. what happens when games start becoming like 20-30gb??? that has already happened to a few games that need multiple discs...dreman999

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="fluffers623"]wow thats stupid. what happens when games start becoming like 20-30gb??? that has already happened to a few games that need multiple discs...micky4889

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="fluffers623"]wow thats stupid. what happens when games start becoming like 20-30gb??? that has already happened to a few games that need multiple discs...micky4889

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="dreman999"]When are games going to be normal 20 gb? The average is on one dvd.WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="dreman999"]When are games going to be normal 20 gb? The average is on one dvd.dreman999

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]Blu-Ray is more a luxury than a necessity. too_much_eslim

Screw Blu-ray. You know what they should do? Continue with the "fully installable games" approach, but toss in a 1TB or 2TB HDD in every console. Standard spinning HDDs at that size will be very inexpensive by 2010. they can do it. space issue solved. developers can continue to use dirt-cheap DVDs...and gamers will just install the games to their computer, needing only the first disc for verification of ownership to run the game.

installed games will me much faster load times than any BD-based game can offer, along with all the benefits of nearly unlimited space for installs.

win.

Dreams-Visions

that sounds like a bad idea I am glad they won't do this next gen.

How could you actually argue against Blu Ray? It won the format war, that alone makes it's extremely welcome, not to mention devs sometimes throw in extra just because they have that extra space, with dvd's they'll cut back if it isn't enough to warrant a second dvd for example. It isn't exactly rocket science,

Blu Ray > DvD.

Edit: Did I mention the Blu Ray discs are WAY more reliable? Not even an xbox would scratch those babies.

They have a very clever anti pirate system too.

Eddie-Vedder

This system was cracked a long time ago. It is the copy protection of the PS3 itself that stands today. Blu-Ray movies are easily ripped, and if it weren't for a system used by the PS3, the same could be said for the games.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

How could you actually argue against Blu Ray? It won the format war, that alone makes it's extremely welcome, not to mention devs sometimes throw in extra just because they have that extra space, with dvd's they'll cut back if it isn't enough to warrant a second dvd for example. It isn't exactly rocket science,

Blu Ray > DvD.

Edit: Did I mention the Blu Ray discs are WAY more reliable? Not even an xbox would scratch those babies.

They have a very clever anti pirate system too.

noswear

This system was cracked a long time ago. It is the copy protection of the PS3 itself that stands today. Blu-Ray movies are easily ripped, and if it weren't for a system used by the PS3, the same could be said for the games.

Imagine if both Nintendo and Microsoft went blu-ray next gen. The mass and mass of money Sony will make, my God.siLVURcross

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Imagine if both Nintendo and Microsoft went blu-ray next gen. The mass and mass of money Sony will make, my God.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Imagine if both Nintendo and Microsoft went blu-ray next gen. The mass and mass of money Sony will make, my God.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Imagine if both Nintendo and Microsoft went blu-ray next gen. The mass and mass of money Sony will make, my God.carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="noswear"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

How could you actually argue against Blu Ray? It won the format war, that alone makes it's extremely welcome, not to mention devs sometimes throw in extra just because they have that extra space, with dvd's they'll cut back if it isn't enough to warrant a second dvd for example. It isn't exactly rocket science,

Blu Ray > DvD.

Edit: Did I mention the Blu Ray discs are WAY more reliable? Not even an xbox would scratch those babies.

They have a very clever anti pirate system too.

siLVURcross

This system was cracked a long time ago. It is the copy protection of the PS3 itself that stands today. Blu-Ray movies are easily ripped, and if it weren't for a system used by the PS3, the same could be said for the games.

Well that's why one of my friends bought a DS. >_>

honestly I think it would be dumb not to include blu ray. Since it already won. I want it to become the dominat format. I want a bluray burner so I can burn all my anime on one blu ray disk.too_much_eslim

It's not won though, DVD has won. DVD is still dominate, Blu-Ray is still falling behind and you said it yourself you want it to become the dominate format, all the while Microsoft and all these movie studios release things on DVD it'll never go away.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]honestly I think it would be dumb not to include blu ray. Since it already won. I want it to become the dominat format. I want a bluray burner so I can burn all my anime on one blu ray disk.CreepyBacon

It's not won though, DVD has won. DVD is still dominate, Blu-Ray is still falling behind and you said it yourself you want it to become the dominate format, all the while Microsoft and all these movie studios release things on DVD it'll never go away.

I've said this before, the Xbox 720 is still on paper development, they haven't decided upon Blu-Ray, DVD or something else like HD-DVD as a cheap alternative to licesnsing and using Blu-Ray or some other proprietary disc drive.

And Microsoft never ever said they wouldn't put out a Blu-Ray add on drive for the 360 in the future.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]honestly I think it would be dumb not to include blu ray. Since it already won. I want it to become the dominat format. I want a bluray burner so I can burn all my anime on one blu ray disk.Animal-Mother

There's really little reason for games to come on physical media at all. The future is digital.subrosian

all we need is some kind of tech to make discs more biggernaruto7777

There's really little reason for games to come on physical media at all. The future is digital.subrosian

all we need is some kind of tech to make discs more biggernaruto7777

lol, people, there are OTHER high capacity disc formats out there that MS could use for more space lol, it doesnt HAVE to be blu-ray

DVD 2.0

VMD

Both of these formats hold 24GB of data and is compatible with current DVD's

lol, people, there are OTHER high capacity disc formats out there that MS could use for more space lol, it doesnt HAVE to be blu-ray

DVD 2.0

VMD

Both of these formats hold 24GB of data and is compatible with current DVD's

navyguy21

pretty dumb not to include blu-ray. in 3-4 years it will become the main format as more people get HDTVs. when do you think MS is going to roll out the new Xbox? 2011, 2012? yeah pretty dumb move. On another note, everything that is new is ALWAYS expensive. When DVD came out it was expensive. you can get a dvd player for $50 now. So as more people get PS3 and other blu-ray players the price will go down. So by the time to next Xbox rolls out putting a blu-ray player in it really wont be that expensive.

Do you really want this?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]honestly I think it would be dumb not to include blu ray. Since it already won. I want it to become the dominat format. I want a bluray burner so I can burn all my anime on one blu ray disk.cainetao11

lol, people, there are OTHER high capacity disc formats out there that MS could use for more space lol, it doesnt HAVE to be blu-ray

DVD 2.0

VMD

Both of these formats hold 24GB of data and is compatible with current DVD's

There's really little reason for games to come on physical media at all. The future is digital.subrosian

Yes 20 to 30 years from now. As long as broadband is not free and everyone doesn't have a computer their will always be disc based media.

I will never buy downloadable games that are 10+ gb because if they are terrible I have no way of selling it.

Blu Ray will be in all next generation consoles I think that is a given at this point. It would be suicide to not include it for next generation of HD gaming.jakarai