XBOX automatically erases data on your console when you sell the game at retail.

I swear i'm gonna be on this site sometime in the near future and see threads about how MS doesn't flush and how we should all be outraged.

This site has gone to hell with this witch hunt.

What if you lend the game to a friend, he pays the fee to install it.. you'd have to buy the game again?

What if you lend the game to a friend, he pays the fee to install it.. you'd have to buy the game again?

wapahala

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.Bread_or_Decide

I have to admit that it's a bit scary how Xbox One is all about things you can't control :?

"that the rumored Xbox One preowned activation fee will be £35 ($52). It is unclear if this fee will be an additional cost on top of the sticker price for secondhand games. " LOL Heil68

How do you expect to be able to still play a game you sold? How is that not stealing? Its not deleting a game that you still have in your collection....navyguy21

What happens if you, years later, decide to get the game again?

That's scary.

It seems that the Xbox Done is tracking your every move. With the mandatory Kinect watching your every move and the mandatory Internet connection to send your private footages to Microsoft.

And now this?

Good lord...

I will never buy an xbox ever again

louisfoxton

That's scary.

It seems that the Xbox Done is tracking your every move. With the mandatory Kinect watching your every move and the mandatory Internet connection to send your private footages to Microsoft.

And now this?

Good lord...

Cyberdot

That's OK because i own the rights to the name 'Gamer's Gone Wild' and when they want to post raunchy video's of gamers, I will sell them the rights for $2 million and 7.5% residuals....

Also it orders a pizza for you from the Pizza Hut app, if you're not going online within the 24 hours.

:lol: Lems = OwnedI_can_haz

In Soviet XBox, Game owns you.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]How do you expect to be able to still play a game you sold? How is that not stealing? Its not deleting a game that you still have in your collection....PAL360

What happens if you, years later, decide to get the game again?

My question is: What kind of person is still supporting this piece of crap? Have you no soul?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]How do you expect to be able to still play a game you sold? How is that not stealing? Its not deleting a game that you still have in your collection....PAL360

What happens if you, years later, decide to get the game again?

 You install it again. It's not a hassle.Giancar

Then you insert the disc, it becomes authorised on your account again and you're free to play away lol It doesn't delete your achievements or saves.RR360DD

Oh...then sorry for my misinterpretation! I thought your save games would be delected aswell.

Jump out!

finalstar2007

What if you lend the game to a friend, he pays the fee to install it.. you'd have to buy the game again?

wapahala

If he pays the fee, then he would have his own copy.  Nothing will happen to your copy cuz its tied to your account.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.Frostbite24

And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]How many topics do we need on this lolspike6958

Looks like I finally have a reason to get the Xbox One. Thanks for the help, man.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.Phazevariance

From what I'm gathering your saved data is still there along with achievements and such, just the game data is deleted is all.

Wait so if you want to borrow it from a friend you can't play it? Wtf.

And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.RR360DD

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.SambaLele

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.RR360DD

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="SambaLele"]

 

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

sherman-tank1

[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And it just deletes the data (licence) allowing you to play the game obviously ... because you've sold it. Whats the issue.RR360DD

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

No, you wouldn't be able to do it anyway. The game gets registered to a new account. They can control it in their servers, allowing only the most recent registered owner to use that game.

Do they really have to access your files and delete it from your HDD? Is that the only way? Is that the right way?

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]You'd be giving them permission when you sell the game lol Seriously what do you people expect? To sell the game, and then still get to play it when you get home?Cranler

Since the PS1 companies sold consoles at a loss. But they managed to profit (a lot) with games. That's no excuse man, on the contrary, that's a marketing plan.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]You'd be giving them permission when you sell the game lol Seriously what do you people expect? To sell the game, and then still get to play it when you get home?Cranler

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="SambaLele"]

 

So you're not bothered by a company accessing your HDD and deleting files without your permission?

SambaLele

No, you wouldn't be able to do it anyway. The game gets registered to a new account. They can control it in their servers, allowing only the most recent registered owner to use that game.

Do they really have to access your files and delete it from your HDD? Is that the only way? Is that the right way?

They delete the license allowing you to play the game. So once you sell it, you can't play it. They don't delete save data or anything, so I don't see the issue.

[QUOTE="wapahala"]

What if you lend the game to a friend, he pays the fee to install it.. you'd have to buy the game again?

jimmypsn

If he pays the fee, then he would have his own copy.  Nothing will happen to your copy cuz its tied to your account.

But wouldn't Xbone know that it was YOUR copy that was lended ("sold"), to him (just like reselling)? Therefore, automatically erasing your data? It would be the same process as GameStop, unless GameStop actually registers the used copy to Microsoft..

This was just posted by major nelson

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-and-used-games-2/

So I think we should hold off discussing this crap until Microsoft actually tell us how it works :P

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]So if you borrow that game from a friend you aren't allowed to play it? I would say that is a problem. Unless I'm misread it.

SambaLele

Since the PS1 companies sold consoles at a loss. But they managed to profit (a lot) with games. That's no excuse man, on the contrary, that's a marketing plan.

MS needs to clarify all of this at E3 because all of this internet speculation and misinformation is exhausting....navyguy21

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]You'd be giving them permission when you sell the game lol Seriously what do you people expect? To sell the game, and then still get to play it when you get home?RR360DD

No, you wouldn't be able to do it anyway. The game gets registered to a new account. They can control it in their servers, allowing only the most recent registered owner to use that game.

Do they really have to access your files and delete it from your HDD? Is that the only way? Is that the right way?

They delete the license allowing you to play the game. So once you sell it, you can't play it. They don't delete save data or anything, so I don't see the issue.

Yes, because allowing something today is not a precedent to doing it to a greater extent tomorrow.

See DD and now the proposed used games fee.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]So if you borrow that game from a friend you aren't allowed to play it? I would say that is a problem. Unless I'm misread it.

sherman-tank1

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] MS isnt selling you an $800 machine at $400-$500 for you to turn around and borrow games from friends. Cranler

[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] MS isnt selling you an $800 machine at $400-$500 for you to turn around and borrow games from friends. Cranler

Since the PS1 companies sold consoles at a loss. But they managed to profit (a lot) with games. That's no excuse man, on the contrary, that's a marketing plan.

Not making a profit? That happened to the starting years of the 360 only because of the high failure rate. With the first Xbox because of the high HDD cost at the time. One thing was not planned, the other one was a bad plan.

All other consoles (PS1, 2, 3; Gamecube, etc., not the Wii since it was profitable hardware) were sold at a loss exactly to obtain more profit, by securing a larger consumer base, thus selling more games. If you sell your $400 console at a $800 price tag, how many people would buy it? How long each one would spend in games in the long term? If we sell 3x more consoles, at a endurable loss, could we profit more selling more games? Those are the right questions the marketing department asks before chosing the strategy, and you're missing the answers.

The profit margin of games is always their target.