XBOX Founder: If Apple so chooses, they will simply kill MS/Sony/Ninty - UPDATE

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#251 nextgenjoke
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rZltLS8q8

 

the real doom3 for android lol look at how crappy tablets handle it.

 

fps in the teens 

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lol we're years away from doom3 running at 60 fps on a damn tablet.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5o8wriWsWo

 

dead trigger ios is pure garbage the graphics are horrible i was playing it yesterday lol.

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#254 FireEmblem_Man
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Just pure speculation MusicalMac

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#255 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

My observations align with what your OP says. It porbably would greatly trouble the big 3. In my original post, I stated that I would not buy it even if it did since Apple has no developers under them.

musicalmac
EA and Epic have both developed for iOS, EA especially. It's probably safe to say iOS receives more support from EA than the WiiU. If Apple has one strength in the software market, it's developer support. Were you referring specifically to 1st party development?

Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?
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#256 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="percech"] He's not even a real mod.

Who told you my mmod tags were fake?!
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#257 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?
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#258 musicalmac  Moderator
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That full atricle is packed with garbage from another Apple zombie that knows nothing about the gaming industry or Apple themselves.

AM-Gamer
No need to go any farther. Apple has already paid out 8 billion dollars to 3rd party developers. I'm not going to take your personal observations very seriously when I have some more significant data to rely on.
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#259 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?

Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?Heirren
You guys are making yourselves look silly.
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#260 CastieI
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I think it's become increasingly obvious in recent months that Apple is not, nor has it ever been, this omnipotent force of nature it is hyped up to be.
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#261 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?

Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?Heirren
You guys are making yourselves look silly.

No, they have been. There was a lot of outrage when iPad4 launched so shortly after the ipad3. Sounds cliche, but Jobs was the essense of apple and this is already fading away.
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#262 CastieI
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Apple without Steve Jobs has been, historically speaking, sh*t. They are without Steve again, and history is repeating itself.
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#263 DoctorHim
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Apple of 5 years ago would absolutely have squashed these 3 and claimed the market.  But that "Apple" doesn't live here anymore.  Most every complaint lobbed at Microsoft's gaming division can be directed at Apple too.

 

Costing on momentum...Check.

Lacking strategic vision...Check.

Wasting opportunities...Check.

 

If someone can explain to me exactly where Apple is heading, I'd appreaciate it because as an analyst who's trained in strategic planning...I surely can't tell.  Yes...Apple is printing money today in the same way Microsoft printed it a decade ago.

But let's not pretend that Apple is the same innovator that they have always been.  They're not.

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#264 CastieI
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In fact, the Pippin, Apples massive first failure to penetrate into the console market, occurred while Steve Jobs was not around. He axed it, among other things, when he returned in 1997.
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

That full atricle is packed with garbage from another Apple zombie that knows nothing about the gaming industry or Apple themselves.

musicalmac

No need to go any farther. Apple has already paid out 8 billion dollars to 3rd party developers. I'm not going to take your personal observations very seriously when I have some more significant data to rely on.

You got a link to back that up? They spent 8 billion dollars on games and haven nothing to show for it in regards to quality i have even less confidence in them then i did before. 

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You got a link to back that up? They spent 8 billion dollars on games and haven nothing to show for it in regards to quality i have even less confidence in them then i did before. 

AM-Gamer
Why would I make that up? Seems like a stupid thing to do. After a quick search of the internet... Apple has Paid $8 billion to Developers, Cook Says. He probably has a reasonably good idea.

I don't know what you're referring to regarding quality. Anyone who says the App Store is full of freemium garbage or quick flash games is only revealing how much they don't know. Yup.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?

Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?Heirren
You guys are making yourselves look silly.

HAve to lower myself to your level, but hey when profit margins is all you have left I hope you have apple stocks... well actually that would be bad.
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#268 Sailor_Enlil
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I'm only reminded of the Apple Pippin. And look where that went.

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Apple couldn't and wouldn't penetrate the console market, they would only succeed in failing. They're better in their current position with handhelds and handsets.

I'm only reminded of the Apple Pippin. And look where that went.

Sailor_Enlil

Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).

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I don't think that's right. People are aligned with their chosen console. I just don't see that happening.
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#271 skrat_01
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It's been well known at least at an industry level that everyone responsible for the Xbox and the success of the 360 are all more or less gone, and Microsoft has completely changed the direction of their Xbox division. Which is why the dashboard and their direction is what it is at the moment. Whelp.
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#272 Zeviander
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yeah sure if they can make it seem like another must-have fashion accessory.marklarmer
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I don't think that's right. People are aligned with their chosen console. I just don't see that happening.-Wicked_Sick-
No company is infallible especially in the land of gaming, look at past juggernauts like Atari or Sega.
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] HAve to lower myself to your level, but hey when profit margins is all you have left I hope you have apple stocks... well actually that would be bad.

How much do you know about hedge funds?

Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).

Stevo_the_gamer
Apple is indeed a completely different company now. You're also correct in saying Apple can afford just about anything. To quote myself...

Apple could buy:
- Facebook
- Groupon
- Linkdin
- Netflix
- Pandora
- Blackberry
- Yahoo!
- Yelp
- Zillow
- Zynga

- ...and still have billions in the bank

Or, Apple could just buy the PC industry by purchasing:
- HP
- Dell
- Toshiba
- Sony
- Lenovo
- Asustech
- Acer
- ...aaand still have enough to pick up:
- Nokia
- Blackberry
- ...and still have billions in the bank.

So get used to Apple, my warrior friends, they're going to be around for a while. lolmusicalmac


Yup.
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lol nat brown on nbc.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/cnbc/50827051#50827051

 

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] How much do you know about hedge funds?

Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).

Stevo_the_gamer
Apple is indeed a completely different company now. You're also correct in saying Apple can afford just about anything. To quote myself...

Apple could buy:
- Facebook
- Groupon
- Linkdin
- Netflix
- Pandora
- Blackberry
- Yahoo!
- Yelp
- Zillow
- Zynga

- ...and still have billions in the bank

Or, Apple could just buy the PC industry by purchasing:
- HP
- Dell
- Toshiba
- Sony
- Lenovo
- Asustech
- Acer
- ...aaand still have enough to pick up:
- Nokia
- Blackberry
- ...and still have billions in the bank.

So get used to Apple, my warrior friends, they're going to be around for a while. lolmusicalmac


Yup.

And there goes your credibility.