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#1 UnnDunn
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Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

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Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

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Have fun with your faceBook and Twitter. I'm just fine with FF7 / MGS1 and RE directers cut.. Plus way more PS 1 classics are to come!

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Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

STRETCH-E
He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed.
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

moose_knuckler

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed.

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

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#6 UnnDunn
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Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

STRETCH-E
You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.
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Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

UnnDunn

PS3 has a web browser so we have always had Facebook and TWitter oh and HULU, Youtube,Break,so on and so on. I do agree XBOX Live is a great service but it does not need a poorly worded thread to confirm this.

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Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs.
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.

PS3 had those from day 1.
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Your right facebook and twitter are great for live and a really smart move still you have to agree that FF7and MGS1 is the coolest thing ever to come out on PSN

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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

The_Brodeo

PS3 has a web browser so we have always had Facebook and TWitter oh and HULU, Youtube,Break,so on and so on.

Acknowledged, but the main point is that Xbox Live continues to improve in meaningful ways, whereas PSN appears largely stagnant.

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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

UnnDunn
You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.

LOL cows are funny what happened to playstation home??? Now no one can argue PSN vs. XBL.
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

UnnDunn
You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.

The Wii and PS3 already have Facebook and Twitter.. Twitter, you just see what your friends are doing on XBL :| . Facebook, ok, it has more depth, but one thing you can do is post a in game picture on your profile for selected games :| .
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Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs. Tjeremiah1988
Microsofts stuff does always seem like it's late to the party. I really enjoyed Twitter for like 2 weeks 6 months ago. Facebook is much better for wasting time at work than actually dealing with while at home on a GAMING SYSTEM :roll:

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[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

UnnDunn

PS3 has a web browser so we have always had Facebook and TWitter oh and HULU, Youtube,Break,so on and so on.

Acknowledged, but the main point is that Xbox Live continues to improve in meaningful ways, whereas PSN appears largely stagnant.




Meaningful ways... Twitter and Facebook... I definitely lol'd.

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Your right facebook and twitter are great for live and a really smart move still you have to agree that FF7and MGS1 is the coolest thing ever to come out on PSN

PA_DUTCH
Absolutely, MGS1 and FF7 are great adds to the PlayStation Store. But they don't exactly represent new features; PlayStation Store has been selling PS1 games for a while now.
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

Hence why it's touted as the largest entertainment service ... or something along those lines.
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

Bluray001

You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.

PS3 had those from day 1.


Exactly what i was going to say, but regardless there was way more things then twitter and facebook. I still won't use any of them. Like a Radio? I can plug in my zune. Instant movies is pretty cool, i don't have an hd tv yet so right now 1080p doesn't affect me. But still im sure other people will like/use them.

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Blu Ray from day 1 >>>> streaming 1080p, like you said $60 xbox live a year should have more features than a free online service, for a free service PSN offers A LOT when compared to other FREE online services (on consoles, PC is a beast by itself when it comes to online services). By the way services like those won't attract new consumers, they're only gonna please the current owners of the system, so what are you getting at? Like you 360 owners have said from day 1, people buy consoles for games first.

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#21 The_Brodeo
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

Jamani

You can laugh and scoff and act all elitist if you like, but the fact is twitter and facebook are two of the Web's most popular services, and Xbox Live support for those services will appeal to a lot of people.

LOL cows are funny what happened to playstation home??? Now no one can argue PSN vs. XBL.

Sure they can. PSN is free with a browser and so is HOME. Anything else?

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"We don't need any extra features, Xbox 360 is ONLY about TEH GAMEZZZ!"
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#23 Bluray001
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PS3 doesn't need streaming 1080p movies.

It has a Blu-ray Drive and access to BD Live.

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#24 STRETCH-E
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Paying 50$ to use Twitter and Facebook.


This is what gaming is all about folks.

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Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs. Tjeremiah1988
1080p streaming will require an 8Mbps downstream connection. Chances are it will have similar quality to Vudu's 1080p streaming service. I too hope that it will perform as advertised, though I have a 30Mbps downstream connection, so I'm not too worried.
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

STRETCH-E

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed.

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

The PS3 was made fun of for being media heavy system and a bluray player at the start of the PS3 life when it never had very many games out.

I wouldn't use Facebook or twitter but there is not problem adding more fetures to a console when it has large selection of games you can play.

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs. UnnDunn
1080p streaming will require an 8Mbps downstream connection. Chances are it will have similar quality to Vudu's 1080p streaming service. I too hope that it will perform as advertised, though I have a 30Mbps downstream connection, so I'm not too worried.

Sure, 8mbps for a highly compressed 1080p video and lossy audio.... I wonder what you would need for a blu-ray quality 1080p movie
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

STRETCH-E

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed.

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed. AlphaGamer469

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...




Hi Alphagamer!

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed. moose_knuckler

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

Uh, you do realize that the only thing you actually pay for on XBL is peer to peer matchmaking.... all that over stuff is free.
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So...where are the GAMES on xbox live that feature 60 + players or more online like R2 and MAG? What about the games where you create and share content like online LBP and Mod-Nation? Ya know "games", the things that we were supposed to be hyping online services to begin with?

Well anyway enjoy your amazing "features"...that have absolutly nothing to do with games, while PSN gamers enjoy their"games" that have amazing features while online.

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That was to be expected.

As PSN continue to improve as a free service, MS had two options:

reduce the XBL fee or to add more features to justify the it.

They chose the second.

Would I have prefered the first one? Hell yes (couldn't care less about Facebook and Twitter).

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So XBL is trying to catch up to features that PS3 had all along. I think I've seen that before.

And PS3 is getting vidzone next week, that's better than any feature you mentioned.

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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed. AlphaGamer469

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

didnt 360 fanboys buy a gaming console just for games and laughed at PS3 owners when they listed theno. ofmultimedia functions PS3 offers? Now 360 fanboys are happy cause they get Twitter & Facebook??

Hope 360 fanboys dont start counting Twitter & Facebook as exclusives now :P

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed. moose_knuckler

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

You people really have short memories dont you? All lemmings did was bash the PS3 when it had no games and all it was good for was media, now you prsise the 360 for getting media features when if the PS3 had received them you wouldve gone back to the old "people buy consoles for games" argument.
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I find these kind of threads quite ironic. So it's not all about the games now?
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs. Bluray001
1080p streaming will require an 8Mbps downstream connection. Chances are it will have similar quality to Vudu's 1080p streaming service. I too hope that it will perform as advertised, though I have a 30Mbps downstream connection, so I'm not too worried.

Sure, 8mbps for a highly compressed 1080p video and lossy audio.... I wonder what you would need for a blu-ray quality 1080p movie

Here's the thing: all HD video is compressed. Yes, even Blu-ray. The technology to deliver uncompressed 1080p video simply isn't available at this time. Lossless audio, yes. Uncompressed, lossless 1080p video, no.

Given the right compression, 8Mbps is more than enough to deliver a great 1080p video stream with 5.1 audio, which is what Microsoft is promising. It won't be as good as Blu-ray, but it will be quite acceptable. It will look as good as theHD signal delivered on FiOS, for example.

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FF7, RE'DC , MGS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FaceBook-Twitter

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

Bluray001

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

Uh, you do realize that the only thing you actually pay for on XBL is peer to peer matchmaking.... all that over stuff is free.

No we pay for the superior console online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Facebook and Twitter are Meh features. Yes, they are popular, but both have declining traffic everyday because people are realizing how much of a fad/boring they are. I really dont see these channels on XBL being used 2 months after release. About the 1080p streams, I have to see it to believe it. Many know no matter the connection, sometimes XBL struggles to run HD without buffering every 10secs. UnnDunn
1080p streaming will require an 8Mbps downstream connection. Chances are it will have similar quality to Vudu's 1080p streaming service. I too hope that it will perform as advertised, though I have a 30Mbps downstream connection, so I'm not too worried.

Its not just about performance, its about selection. So far when it comes to streaming movies, the selection of movies have been on par with diving into the discount bin at Walmart. Not to mention the fact that streaming movies affects movie renters, not movie buyers. I am a movie buyer and perfer to own a movie rather then rent. I collect so having a hard copy Blu ray with 7.1 and a perfect 1080p transfer ALWAYS beats streaming movies.
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

Uh, you do realize that the only thing you actually pay for on XBL is peer to peer matchmaking.... all that over stuff is free.

No we pay for the superior concole online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.
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#42 CreepyBacon
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

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No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

You people really have short memories dont you? All lemmings did was bash the PS3 when it had no games and all it was good for was media, now you prsise the 360 for getting media features when if the PS3 had received them you wouldve gone back to the old "people buy consoles for games" argument.

Im sure the fact the 360 is getting all this content without having to pay the price of a PS3 and getting a useless blu-ray drive isn't in anyway shape or form the reason why there happy. :|

Once again Microsoft leads and Sony follows. Yes sony has a browser, it's rubbish to use. Console browsers do not work. I'd rather have big sites integrated into my console with features designed specificly FOR my console.

Microsoft has one upped Sony on movies, once again. Now not only do they play instantly, you can share with friends and family as well. Enjoy home, the most you can do is watch adverts together.

Sky deal anyone? You do realize how big Football is in Europe right? It's not the most popular sport in the world for nothing you know and now you can get football games, Live on your 360, as well as Sky movies. Sony releases software to allow the PS3 to play freeview tv channels (a free digital tv service in the UK, rather rubbish.) Microsoft brings in the countries biggest Digital tv service.

One upped again.

Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime. That's why it's getting hype. It's not some tacked on, money grabbing (in blu-rays case) scheme to make the console seem better than it is.

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#44 AlphaGamer469
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] Uh, you do realize that the only thing you actually pay for on XBL is peer to peer matchmaking.... all that over stuff is free.Bluray001

No we pay for the superior concole online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Twitter and Facebook? Are you serious?

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed.

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

Umm....I guess but then again I'm not one. Just telling you it's more than Twitter and Facebook.
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I find these kind of threads quite ironic. So it's not all about the games now?lusitanogamer
See, the thing is... Xbox 360 still does an amazing job with the games. Multiplatform games still generally look and play better on 360 than on PS3. Xbox Live's gaming chops still beat those of PSN ("dedicated servers" and "MAG" notwithstanding.) 360 still gets great exclusive content like Halo 3: ODST, Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2. It still offers a great platform for independent developers to get their work out there. So Xbox 360 is still a great gaming machine. But now it's branching out to do all this other stuff, but in a way that adds to the total entertainment experience, rather than takes away from it.

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#47 Bluray001
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[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="UnnDunn"] 1080p streaming will require an 8Mbps downstream connection. Chances are it will have similar quality to Vudu's 1080p streaming service. I too hope that it will perform as advertised, though I have a 30Mbps downstream connection, so I'm not too worried.UnnDunn

Sure, 8mbps for a highly compressed 1080p video and lossy audio.... I wonder what you would need for a blu-ray quality 1080p movie

Here's the thing: all HD video is compressed. Yes, even Blu-ray. The technology to deliver uncompressed 1080p video simply isn't available at this time. Lossless audio, yes. Uncompressed, lossless 1080p video, no.

Given the right compression, 8Mbps is more than enough to deliver a great 1080p video stream with 5.1 audio, which is what Microsoft is promising. It won't be as good as Blu-ray, but it will be quite acceptable. It will look as good as theHD signal delivered on FiOS, for example.

Well, technically uncompressed video isn't 1080p. It's the video resolution of a movie theater screen. (The Studio Master). It's not practical to have that on a disc since the home theater doesn't have screens that size. The compression on a 1080p movie on a blu-ray disc is optimized for that resolution so that for the screen you are using, it will look identical to the studio master on a movie theater screen. 5.1 audio isnt enough IMO. For me, nothing short of Multichannel LPCM, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA is acceptable
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#48 Bluray001
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

No we pay for the superior concole online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

Uh, it's peer-to-peer. There is no such thing as "superior" peer to peer. Unlike PSN, which offers more dedicated servers... for free.
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FF7, RE'DC , MGS1, R2 (60players online), MAG (256 players online), LBP (create and share content with gamers online), Mod-Nation (create and share content with gamers onine), warhawk (choose to battlein airplane, in tank,in jeep, on foot or anywhereyou want online)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FaceBook-Twitter

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[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Uh, you do realize that the only thing you actually pay for on XBL is peer to peer matchmaking.... all that over stuff is free.Bluray001

No we pay for the superior concole online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.

Nope, we pay for allt hat in conjuction with peer to peer gaming. Can't party chat without GOLD.