Xbox Live gets tons of new features, PSN gets none...

The PS3 was made fun of for being media heavy system and a bluray player at the start of the PS3 life when it never had very many games out.

I wouldn't use Facebook or twitter but there is not problem adding more fetures to a console when it has large selection of games you can play.

campbell1874

So XBL is trying to catch up to features that PS3 had all along. I think I've seen that before.

And PS3 is getting vidzone next week, that's better than any feature you mentioned.

DarkyC

Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime.CreepyBacon

No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.Bluray001

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime.STRETCH-E

Yep, better exclusives, and in an attempt to one up the PS1 and PS2, terrible reliability. Sony thought they heald the least reliable console crown last gen, and the gen before, but MS stole that too :)

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

-Snooze-

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

Twitter and Facebook is amusing. I've been able to use those on PS3 [If I cared to] since day 1. That free web browser, which is no Firefox/Chrome, is still a nifty little feature, then enables a wide variety of features that XBL doesn't have. It's free too. jonnyt61

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

No we pay for the superior concole online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

AlphaGamer469

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

This is the kind of attitude MS wants from us 360 owners, PAYING EXTRA for a service being offered for free on other systems and defend that by saying it is superior..

I personally pay for XBL, i have no 'problem' with that but I am not getting anything more/superior from what is offered by PC & PS3 for free..

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] Uh, it's peer-to-peer. There is no such thing as "superior" peer to peer. Unlike PSN, which offers more dedicated servers... for free.STRETCH-E

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.Malta_1980

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

This is the kind of attitude MS wants from us 360 owners, PAYING EXTRA for a service being offered for free on other systems and defend that by saying it is superior..

I personally pay for XBL, i have no 'problem' with that but I am not getting anything more/superior from what is offered by PC & PS3 for free..

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] Uh, it's peer-to-peer. There is no such thing as "superior" peer to peer. Unlike PSN, which offers more dedicated servers... for free.STRETCH-E

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

Kind of like your attempts at argument. You take 1 or 2 aspects and try to bash the whole argument...

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime.STRETCH-E

I think he/she means the HD-DVD drive.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] 4 more games with dedicated servers ... WOW, TEH CELL AT IT'S BEZT-Snooze-

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

Yeah but what does it have to do with the cell?

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] Sure, 8mbps for a highly compressed 1080p video and lossy audio.... I wonder what you would need for a blu-ray quality 1080p movieBluray001

Given the right compression, 8Mbps is more than enough to deliver a great 1080p video stream with 5.1 audio, which is what Microsoft is promising. It won't be as good as Blu-ray, but it will be quite acceptable. It will look as good as theHD signal delivered on FiOS, for example.

For the vast majority of people, Dolby Digital AC3-encoded 5.1 audio is more than enough to provide a fantastic experience.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] 4 more games with dedicated servers ... WOW, TEH CELL AT IT'S BEZTAlphaGamer469

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

Kind of like your attempts at argument. You take 1 or 2 aspects and try to bash the whole argument...

Can I add you on PSN?

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

CreepyBacon

Im sure the fact the 360 is getting all this content without having to pay the price of a PS3 and getting a useless blu-ray drive isn't in anyway shape or form the reason why there happy. :|

Once again Microsoft leads and Sony follows. Yes sony has a browser, it's rubbish to use. Console browsers do not work. I'd rather have big sites integrated into my console with features designed specificly FOR my console.

Microsoft has one upped Sony on movies, once again. Now not only do they play instantly, you can share with friends and family as well. Enjoy home, the most you can do is watch adverts together.

Sky deal anyone? You do realize how big Football is in Europe right? It's not the most popular sport in the world for nothing you know and now you can get football games, Live on your 360, as well as Sky movies. Sony releases software to allow the PS3 to play freeview tv channels (a free digital tv service in the UK, rather rubbish.) Microsoft brings in the countries biggest Digital tv service.

One upped again.

Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime. That's why it's getting hype. It's not some tacked on, money grabbing (in blu-rays case) scheme to make the console seem better than it is.

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

AlphaGamer469

No we pay for the superior console online gaming experience. I know because I've gamed on both. Anyone who says PSN is just as good or better is just deluding themselves...

So...where are the GAMES on xbox live that feature 60 + players or more online like R2 (w/no lag)and MAG? What about the games where you create and share content like online LBP and Mod-Nation? Ya know "games", the things that we were supposed to be hyping online services to begin with?

what you're talking aboutare"features"of the online service outside of the games...when it comes to the ONLINE GAMING EXPERIENCE of the actual games that the two systems have avalible, xbox360 fails horribley when compaired to PS3...what exactly is this"superior console online gameing experience" that you are talking about?

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

He did list more things up there as well but yeah those would be two things they showed. moose_knuckler

Funny how lemmings used to make fun of the PS3 for being a media heavy system and bluray player and now they're praising their 360 for being able to use Twitter, Facebook and movies.

No, funny how cows make things up like this everytime XBL continues to excel over the free mess known as PSN. At least you still have that joke known as HOME...

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Twitter and Facebook is amusing. I've been able to use those on PS3 [If I cared to] since day 1. That free web browser, which is no Firefox/Chrome, is still a nifty little feature, then enables a wide variety of features that XBL doesn't have. It's free too. -Snooze-

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Anything sony does, Microsoft does better. Everytime.I_Stole_the_Tv

I think he/she means the HD-DVD drive.

Or maybe the standardized HDD?

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

That doesn't even make sense. 0/10

STRETCH-E

Kind of like your attempts at argument. You take 1 or 2 aspects and try to bash the whole argument...

Can I add you on PSN?

i dont think you can add someone who doesnt own a PS3... its another drawback the inferior PSN service has :) (sarcasm)

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] No, you pay for Peer to peer matchmaking. All the other XBL content is free.Malta_1980

Which is superior and worth it. You can spin as much as you want....

This is the kind of attitude MS wants from us 360 owners, PAYING EXTRA for a service being offered for free on other systems and defend that by saying it is superior..

I personally pay for XBL, i have no 'problem' with that but I am not getting anything more/superior from what is offered by PC & PS3 for free..

It's great ou have to bunch the PC with PSN to try to win, but one on one XBL >>>>>> PSN. I've played on both and PSN is a joke....

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="UnnDunn"]Here's the thing: all HD video is compressed. Yes, even Blu-ray. The technology to deliver uncompressed 1080p video simply isn't available at this time. Lossless audio, yes. Uncompressed, lossless 1080p video, no.

Given the right compression, 8Mbps is more than enough to deliver a great 1080p video stream with 5.1 audio, which is what Microsoft is promising. It won't be as good as Blu-ray, but it will be quite acceptable. It will look as good as theHD signal delivered on FiOS, for example.

For the vast majority of people, Dolby Digital AC3-encoded 5.1 audio is more than enough to provide a fantastic experience.

It's great ou have to bunch the PC with PSN to try to win, but one on one XBL >>>>>> PSN. I've played on both and PSN is a joke....

AlphaGamer469

i was just showing how stupid is to defend something you pay extra for, when on other systems its being offered for FREE...

Re the bold part in your previous post, NO you play on XBL but maybe (just maybe) had the chance to play a few minutes on a friend's PS3.. if you do own a PS3 however add me up and we can play on a few games together like

Resistance 2 (60 player online)

KZ2 (32 players online in amazing visuals)

LBP (create a level or jump on user created ones on the fly and co-op)

Warhawk (32 players online with massive maps)

while playing you can tell me what is so inferior on PSN... Deal ????

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] PS3 had those from day 1.Ninja-Hippo

Why Microsoft cant just intergrate a web browser is beyond me.

Stringerboy

[QUOTE="DarkyC"]

So XBL is trying to catch up to features that PS3 had all along. I think I've seen that before.

And PS3 is getting vidzone next week, that's better than any feature you mentioned.

Tjeremiah1988

They'll let you stream it for free, not download. But of course, facebook is better. :roll:

PSN sucks,is good only to play games onlin, the rest is meh.VitunLehmat

than it does what its PRIMARILY supposed to for FREE which is = WIN !!!!

PSN sucks,is good only to play games onlineVitunLehmat

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] Well, technically uncompressed video isn't 1080p. It's the video resolution of a movie theater screen. (The Studio Master). It's not practical to have that on a disc since the home theater doesn't have screens that size. The compression on a 1080p movie on a blu-ray disc is optimized for that resolution so that for the screen you are using, it will look identical to the studio master on a movie theater screen. 5.1 audio isnt enough IMO. For me, nothing short of Multichannel LPCM, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA is acceptableBluray001

For the vast majority of people, Dolby Digital AC3-encoded 5.1 audio is more than enough to provide a fantastic experience.

Look, no-one is saying 1080p streaming is as good as Blu-ray. But there seems to be this prevailing attitude (especially among PlayStation adherents) that if it's not Blu-ray, it must stink. That's simply not true. 1080p streaming will provide a great movie-watching experience. Heck, 720p downloads on Xbox Live already provide really good quality.

[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Why Microsoft cant just intergrate a web browser is beyond me.

Tulak_Hord

That's two more than the 360 can.

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"]PSN sucks,is good only to play games onlin, the rest is meh.Malta_1980

than it does what its PRIMARILY supposed to for FREE which is = WIN !!!!

Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

UnnDunn

[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="UnnDunn"]And I suppose you have the equipment and the environment to experience MLPCM 7.1 channel audio properly, hmm? Because if you do, you are one of the few.

For the vast majority of people, Dolby Digital AC3-encoded 5.1 audio is more than enough to provide a fantastic experience.

Look, no-one is saying 1080p streaming is as good as Blu-ray. But there seems to be this prevailing attitude (especially among PlayStation adherents) that if it's not Blu-ray, it must stink. That's simply not true. 1080p streaming will provide a great movie-watching experience. Heck, 720p downloads on Xbox Live already provide really good quality.

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"]PSN sucks,is good only to play games onlin, the rest is meh.VitunLehmat

than it does what its PRIMARILY supposed to for FREE which is = WIN !!!!

No lag thingy as you say may be a myth, i can agree, so why pay extra for a non Lag Free service ??

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

[QUOTE="Bluray001"] Well, yes. My sound space has been properly configured for lossless audio.Bluray001

Look, no-one is saying 1080p streaming is as good as Blu-ray. But there seems to be this prevailing attitude (especially among PlayStation adherents) that if it's not Blu-ray, it must stink. That's simply not true. 1080p streaming will provide a great movie-watching experience. Heck, 720p downloads on Xbox Live already provide really good quality.

Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

UnnDunn

Seems to me all of Sony's efforts with regard to PSN are going into adding more stuff for you to buy in PlayStation Home. On the Xbox Live side, we're seeing programmed content in the form of Xbox Live Primetime finally launching, 1080p movie and TV streaming, social networking withlast.fm, Twitter and Facebook, live TV with Sky Player in the UK (and rumors of Hulu in the US), Video Party (MST3k-style) and Games On Demand, cutting out the hated GameStop. People complain about multiple discs for Forza 3, ME2 and so on, but why does it matter when one can just download those gameslike on Steam?

Meanwhile on the PSN side, you've got picture sharing in Home (which you have to purchase virtual picture frames in order to use) and not much else. And PSN was lagging behind Xbox Live as it was.

You truly do get what you pay for with Xbox Live. It's rapidly getting to the point where an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live is the one box that will serve all of your entertainment needs.

Look, no-one is saying 1080p streaming is as good as Blu-ray. But there seems to be this prevailing attitude (especially among PlayStation adherents) that if it's not Blu-ray, it must stink. That's simply not true. 1080p streaming will provide a great movie-watching experience. Heck, 720p downloads on Xbox Live already provide really good quality.

UnnDunn

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Why Microsoft cant just intergrate a web browser is beyond me.

DarkyC

That's two more than the 360 can.

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Look, no-one is saying 1080p streaming is as good as Blu-ray. But there seems to be this prevailing attitude (especially among PlayStation adherents) that if it's not Blu-ray, it must stink. That's simply not true. 1080p streaming will provide a great movie-watching experience. Heck, 720p downloads on Xbox Live already provide really good quality.

Javy03

The same thing is happening with Blu-ray.

Paying 50$ to use Twitter and Facebook.


This is what gaming is all about folks.

STRETCH-E

[QUOTE="DarkyC"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"] Because MS also makes windows......and have you used the PS3 browser? It can hardly run two windows at once.12345678ew

That's two more than the 360 can.