Xbox One S Sales Underwhelming so far? UPDATE: It appears not

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#51 Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:
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I would not be so hasty. There are a lot of people re-buying for an S Model and the thing has been on preorder for the better part of two months. The sales, at least for this month, will be strong for the S model. Microsoft was also very smart in giving the S model an incremental upgrade in the hardware instead of the typical mini-model revision we tend to get in a half-gen. This means that buyers looking for a cheap used XBone will have to decide if it is worth waiting for an upgraded model or settle for the price of the original model.

The only thing to be extrapolated from this position in the sales race, and can only be extrapolated if it remains low from now on, is that the S Model has not greatly changed the demand curve for the XBox brand name. After all, the Bone was teetering in and out of the top 100 before the S model was announced. It is reasonable to expect a big surge in sales from current owners wanting to upgrade. It is looking unreasonable to expect some kind of resurgance of the XBox brand in the console space as a result of that.

I bet there are a lot of people buying for the 1st time as well. Why do you cows always have to try and spin any MS news into something bad?

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

I would not be so hasty. There are a lot of people re-buying for an S Model and the thing has been on preorder for the better part of two months. The sales, at least for this month, will be strong for the S model. Microsoft was also very smart in giving the S model an incremental upgrade in the hardware instead of the typical mini-model revision we tend to get in a half-gen. This means that buyers looking for a cheap used XBone will have to decide if it is worth waiting for an upgraded model or settle for the price of the original model.

The only thing to be extrapolated from this position in the sales race, and can only be extrapolated if it remains low from now on, is that the S Model has not greatly changed the demand curve for the XBox brand name. After all, the Bone was teetering in and out of the top 100 before the S model was announced. It is reasonable to expect a big surge in sales from current owners wanting to upgrade. It is looking unreasonable to expect some kind of resurgance of the XBox brand in the console space as a result of that.

I bet there are a lot of people buying for the 1st time as well. Why do you cows always have to try and spin any MS news into something bad?

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

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#53  Edited By skektek
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@charizard1605: Sellout is a useless metric without context. How many units sold? 5? 50? 50,000,000? Microsoft has a history of using sellouts as a part of their marketing strategy. At the 360 launch MS shipped in small and frequent bursts to ensure "sellouts", they also made sure that the retailers had "sold out" signs to create artificial demand.

Nobody wanted the original Xbone, I don't see how changing its spots will significantly increase sales.

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#54  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Chutebox said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

I would not be so hasty. There are a lot of people re-buying for an S Model and the thing has been on preorder for the better part of two months. The sales, at least for this month, will be strong for the S model. Microsoft was also very smart in giving the S model an incremental upgrade in the hardware instead of the typical mini-model revision we tend to get in a half-gen. This means that buyers looking for a cheap used XBone will have to decide if it is worth waiting for an upgraded model or settle for the price of the original model.

The only thing to be extrapolated from this position in the sales race, and can only be extrapolated if it remains low from now on, is that the S Model has not greatly changed the demand curve for the XBox brand name. After all, the Bone was teetering in and out of the top 100 before the S model was announced. It is reasonable to expect a big surge in sales from current owners wanting to upgrade. It is looking unreasonable to expect some kind of resurgance of the XBox brand in the console space as a result of that.

I bet there are a lot of people buying for the 1st time as well. Why do you cows always have to try and spin any MS news into something bad?

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

Stop when you get to the post where someone says they are finally getting on board with the XBone with the S Model.

I'll be waiting lol Same cheerleaders, same console, new jerseys though. Goooooooooo team!

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#55 cainetao11
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Fuckin thing isn't even on sale a day yet. Come on guy. I get you love your dragonball, waifu, and tempura but relax pal.

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#56 kvally
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@Zero_epyon said:

Side note, No Mans Sky at #2 right now.

Great news for the game for sure! I am buying the PS4 version and the Microsoft Windows version next week. I see that the X1S is only two spots behind it at $400.

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#57  Edited By Heil68
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@Heil68: No Xbox One S is the current Amazon selling King right now ps4 was in the top 50 and the S in the top 5

XBOX S the new console king seller

For entire gen as most total hardware sold to consumers in gen 8????

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@SecretPolice: Lol yep. Pretty much.

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#59  Edited By kvally
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@skektek said:

@charizard1605: Sellout is a useless metric without context. How many units sold? 5? 50? 50,000,000? Microsoft has a history of using sellouts as a part of their marketing strategy. At the 360 launch MS shipped in small and frequent bursts to ensure "sellouts", they also made sure that the retailers had "sold out" signs to create artificial demand.

Nobody wanted the original Xbone, I don't see how changing its spots will significantly increase sales.

Well, Sony has a history of using sellouts as part of their marketing strategy, releases in small bursts and had retails put sold out signs to create artificial demand. Nobody wanted the original PS4, so I don't see how changing it's spots with the NEO will increase the already slowing sales.

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#60 Zero_epyon
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@cainetao11 said:

Fuckin thing isn't even on sale a day yet. Come on guy. I get you love your dragonball, waifu, and tempura but relax pal.

The hell is a waifu?

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@Shewgenja said:
@Chutebox said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

I would not be so hasty. There are a lot of people re-buying for an S Model and the thing has been on preorder for the better part of two months. The sales, at least for this month, will be strong for the S model. Microsoft was also very smart in giving the S model an incremental upgrade in the hardware instead of the typical mini-model revision we tend to get in a half-gen. This means that buyers looking for a cheap used XBone will have to decide if it is worth waiting for an upgraded model or settle for the price of the original model.

The only thing to be extrapolated from this position in the sales race, and can only be extrapolated if it remains low from now on, is that the S Model has not greatly changed the demand curve for the XBox brand name. After all, the Bone was teetering in and out of the top 100 before the S model was announced. It is reasonable to expect a big surge in sales from current owners wanting to upgrade. It is looking unreasonable to expect some kind of resurgance of the XBox brand in the console space as a result of that.

I bet there are a lot of people buying for the 1st time as well. Why do you cows always have to try and spin any MS news into something bad?

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

Stop when you get to the post where someone says they are finally getting on board with the XBone with the S Model.

I'll be waiting lol Same cheerleaders, same console, new jerseys though. Goooooooooo team!

That's anecdotal evidence at best. You're projecting what people do on SWs which doesn't even remotely reflect the real world. Post real evidence

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@Zero_epyon said:

Side note, No Mans Sky at #2 right now.

Not very good considering the amount of PS4 sold, it should have been number 1 for at least a week or two!

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#63 cainetao11
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@Zero_epyon: Bromigo, that question is a thread all it's own!!

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@rrjim1 said:

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@Zero_epyon said:

Side note, No Mans Sky at #2 right now.

Not very good considering the amount of PS4 sold, it should have been number 1 for at least a week or two!

You can't be serious...

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#65  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Zero_epyon said:

The hell is a waifu?

LOL do you really wanna know?

Waifu refers to a fictional anime girl wife as a Waifu, You treat your Waifu with the utmost respect and courtesy.

That's what it means in Otaku culture and weeaboo culture. (I'm an Otaku, not a Weeaboo, big difference)

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#66 Zero_epyon
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@davillain- said:
@Zero_epyon said:

The hell is a waifu?

LOL do you really wanna know?

Waifu refers to a fictional anime girl wife as a Waifu, You treat your Waifu with the utmost respect and courtesy.

That's what it means in Otaku culture and weeaboo culture. (I'm an Otaku, not a Weeaboo, big difference)

I see.

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Cows still use Amazon as a source of sales? LOL! Why not just wait until the NPD sales chart comes out in September?

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

Cows still use Amazon as a source of sales? LOL! Why not just wait until the NPD sales chart comes out in September?

Not a cow, but Amazon has been wrong about twice this whole generation. I'm not saying it will be underwhelming, I was just confused since their trends said preorders were at the top but total sales weren't.

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If I were a Lem, I'd be more concerned with how much better the $400 SKU is doing than the 500gb S model. This, more than anything else, points to retreading original Bone users who are less price conscience than any typical mid-gen console adopter.

More and more, this looks like a one month bump before a return to business as usual. It also remains to be seen if there is even a market for second-hand XBones as a result of the retreading owners.

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Wouldn't surprise me. Why would any informed consumer buy this now and not Scorpio in just a little over a year?

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@Shewgenja said:
@Chutebox said:
@Shewgenja said:

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

Stop when you get to the post where someone says they are finally getting on board with the XBone with the S Model.

I'll be waiting lol Same cheerleaders, same console, new jerseys though. Goooooooooo team!

You call that a mountain of evidence? 1 internet forum?

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I fully expect it to sell well launch initially. Hell even the Wii U did that. The real test will be the longevity.

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@FastRobby said:
@Shewgenja said:
@Chutebox said:
@Shewgenja said:

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

Stop when you get to the post where someone says they are finally getting on board with the XBone with the S Model.

I'll be waiting lol Same cheerleaders, same console, new jerseys though. Goooooooooo team!

You call that a mountain of evidence? 1 internet forum?

Should also check my previous post for more.

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#75  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Shewgenja said:
@FastRobby said:
@Shewgenja said:
@Chutebox said:
@Shewgenja said:

Because there is literally no evidence of this happening, but a mountain of evidence people are retreading.

I really don't see any evidence for either :/

Stop when you get to the post where someone says they are finally getting on board with the XBone with the S Model.

I'll be waiting lol Same cheerleaders, same console, new jerseys though. Goooooooooo team!

You call that a mountain of evidence? 1 internet forum?

Should also check my previous post for more.

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

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@lolzman said:

I think Xbone S will win NPD August. After all, it's a new model. But expect PS4 price-cut soon. It won't stay long a 349$

By the time sony cuts the price the XB1 Slim will have taken the USA by storm and it'll be too late nobody wants an old product when a new one is out.

This generation is wrapped up right now bring on the neo or get out sony imo.

This is a huge swing in the console war mid gen upgrades do people stick with the ps4 or go with the fancy xbox slim just like i dunno man lets find out.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@lolzman said:

I think Xbone S will win NPD August. After all, it's a new model. But expect PS4 price-cut soon. It won't stay long a 349$

By the time sony cuts the price the XB1 Slim will have taken the USA by storm and it'll be too late nobody wants an old product when a new one is out.

This generation is wrapped up right now bring on the neo or get out sony imo.

This is a huge swing in the console war mid gen upgrades do people stick with the ps4 or go with the fancy xbox slim just like i dunno man lets find out.

True FREAKING DAT.

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@FastRobby said:

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

It's not an opinion that the 500GB model is tracking way behind the 2TB model in sales. At least currently. We will see what things look like when that SKU drops but it has been swimming upstream since the announcement at e3. I am rather confident in this assertion. In 2016, people paying $400 for a console are previous owners upgrading, not new buyers.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

Cows still use Amazon as a source of sales? LOL! Why not just wait until the NPD sales chart comes out in September?

Trying to drive that false narrative yo. Different day, same tactics. Wish I could say it never gets old but nope, it's been old for gens now. lol

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New Xbox console, same fanboy hate and spin for it lol, gotta love it.

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@Shewgenja said:
@FastRobby said:

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

It's not an opinion that the 500GB model is tracking way behind the 2TB model in sales. At least currently. We will see what things look like when that SKU drops but it has been swimming upstream since the announcement at e3. I am rather confident in this assertion. In 2016, people paying $400 for a console are previous owners upgrading, not new buyers.

Some will, but there is still people on the 360 who are now ready to upgrade. And would be surprised if gamers who bought the PS4 are switching or buying a new console.

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@loe12k said:
@Shewgenja said:
@FastRobby said:

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

It's not an opinion that the 500GB model is tracking way behind the 2TB model in sales. At least currently. We will see what things look like when that SKU drops but it has been swimming upstream since the announcement at e3. I am rather confident in this assertion. In 2016, people paying $400 for a console are previous owners upgrading, not new buyers.

Some will, but there is still people on the 360 who are now ready to upgrade. And would be surprised if gamers who bought the PS4 are switching or buying a new console.

You honestly don't think 360 owners adopted the PS4? At $400, no less?

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@Shewgenja said:
@loe12k said:
@Shewgenja said:
@FastRobby said:

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

It's not an opinion that the 500GB model is tracking way behind the 2TB model in sales. At least currently. We will see what things look like when that SKU drops but it has been swimming upstream since the announcement at e3. I am rather confident in this assertion. In 2016, people paying $400 for a console are previous owners upgrading, not new buyers.

Some will, but there is still people on the 360 who are now ready to upgrade. And would be surprised if gamers who bought the PS4 are switching or buying a new console.

You honestly don't think 360 owners adopted the PS4? At $400, no less?

360 gamers did buy the PS4, they probably buying the slim now.

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@loe12k said:

360 gamers did buy the PS4, they probably buying the slim now.

We shall see. I predict that is a far-fetched assumption but the numbers in the months ahead won't lie, right?

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@Shewgenja said:
@loe12k said:

360 gamers did buy the PS4, they probably buying the slim now.

We shall see. I predict that is a far-fetched assumption but the numbers in the months ahead won't lie, right?

We shall, but if Sony releases a new console it kind of those change things? Neo is going to be more powerful then all three consoles out right now..

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@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

you really got nothing better to do?

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@loe12k said:
@Shewgenja said:
@loe12k said:

360 gamers did buy the PS4, they probably buying the slim now.

We shall see. I predict that is a far-fetched assumption but the numbers in the months ahead won't lie, right?

We shall, but if Sony releases a new console it kind of those change things? Neo is going to be more powerful then all three consoles out right now..

I also believe Neo will not have an effect on new adopters, at least not directly. Second-hand sales of used PS4s as a result of upgraders may push PSN adoption and software sales. That is a side of the coin I am iffy about with the XBox since the basic model is now only $250 as it is.

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#89  Edited By deactivated-60c3d23d2738e
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@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

Why do you care? You Cows are so insecure with your little piece of plastic you sleep with at night??? Get a life!

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@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

you really got nothing better to do?

That's awesome coming from the guy who makes threads about unknown indies being playable for a few weeks on Xbox One first.

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#91  Edited By oflow
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@Shewgenja: no it doesn't. I'm not exactly sure how you are equating the larger HDD version selling better meaning it's retreading? That's pure speculation.

People just know 500GB isn't enough it's like 10 games.

I wouldn't be worried at all with the good fall lineup Xbox has it'll sell great going into the holidays. People buy new tvs at Christmas time. The same people still on the fence about Xbox One and wanting a 4K player to go with a new tv will buy one.

The rebranding seems like a success to me. The only people I see hating the new Xbox are the usual suspects here.

You guys need to worry more about Neo and PSVR than X1S. It'll do fine for what it's meant to do.

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#92 Flyincloud1116
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@Zero_epyon said:
@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

you really got nothing better to do?

That's awesome coming from the guy who makes threads about unknown indies being playable for a few weeks on Xbox One first.

You should really stop rekting lems.

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#93 FLOPPAGE_50
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@lolzman: USA bone and ps4 are head to head.

Also laughing at the cows flip flopping around the sellout, recall you nerds bragging about VR selling out

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#94 Zero_epyon
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@sleepnsurf said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

Why do you care? You Cows are so insecure with your little piece of plastic you sleep with at night??? Get a life!

Insecure about what exactly? Also, not a cow...

Anyway, trends said the xbox one was selling well through preorders but it ended up ranking extremely low. So that could mean that they won't be winning the July NPD unless they really turned it up yesterday. In the previous NPD thread, the consensus was that since NPD tracks into August, preorders will count for July along with the sales on release day. If Preorders weren't as spectacular, then there's a chance that the Xbox One S won't make it to the top.

I'm in no way saying that this will happen for sure given the success it's been having since yesterday in the UK. I'm also not saying that it won't continue to sell well, but I'm just bringing up the possibility that it could still fall behind the PS4.

Also, you cant come into a sales thread on System Wars and tell people to get a life. Really?

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@flyincloud1116: They keep asking for it.

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@Shewgenja: no it doesn't. I'm not exactly sure how you are equating the larger HDD version selling better meaning it's retreading? That's pure speculation.

People just know 500GB isn't enough it's like 10 games.

I wouldn't be worried at all with the good fall lineup Xbox has it'll sell great going into the holidays. People buy new tvs at Christmas time. The same people still on the fence about Xbox One and wanting a 4K player to go with a new tv will buy one.

The rebranding seems like a success to me. The only people I see hating the new Xbox are the usual suspects here.

You guys need to worry more about Neo and PSVR than X1S. It'll do fine for what it's meant to do.

Whoah there.. As if no one knows that you can use an external HDD with the Bone at this point? Please. The 2TB SKU is going to drop like a rock once the 500GB sku hits shelves and you damn well know it. Come on.

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#97 commander
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@Zero_epyon said:
@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

you really got nothing better to do?

That's awesome coming from the guy who makes threads about unknown indies being playable for a few weeks on Xbox One first.

yeah but at least my posts have some comedy to it.

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#98 Zero_epyon
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@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So I took a look at Amazon's best sellers list for July and found that Xbox One S is at #62 for the month. While the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle is at #20.

Here's the link.

So according to Amazon, the Xbox One S didn't sell any better than the original Xbox One in a typical month. Given that Amazon has been a reliable indicator of how console sales end up for the month, what's the likelihood of PS4 outselling the Xbox One S for July's NPD?

Note: July's NPD coverage goes into August so preorders and sales from the first day or two of the Xbox One S will count for July.

you really got nothing better to do?

That's awesome coming from the guy who makes threads about unknown indies being playable for a few weeks on Xbox One first.

yeah but at least my posts have some comedy to it.

I wouldn't brag about being a joke on sw...

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I cant imagine it selling well under any circumstances really.