Xbox One S Sales Underwhelming so far? UPDATE: It appears not

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#101 shellcase86
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@xantufrog said:

To be honest, I think it would be surprising and very damning if it DIDN'T perform better than the original PS4 in its launch window. Now is exactly the time when the __ number of people who want one badly are going to buy it. It's a brand new system with slick new looks and features that launches with the old version of the system's already large and established library.

Ditto.

Why the surprise? It's a new sku, it's nigh-guaranteed to seel very well the first couple of months. Didn't the X1 sell very impressively at launch? The measure of success will be how it sells early-mid year in 2017.

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In light of how badly the xbox one was selling inside Europe a year ago these are very Interesting stats for Germany. Xbox slim 15th place PS4 56th place. Remember this includes games and accessories too and xbox slim is more preordered then the PS4 version of Battlefield 1!

What i am noticing is PS4 games are hot items on Amazon Germany and France. But its obvious the slim is selling better then the PS4 right now inside Europe of all places!

https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=s9_ri_bw_clnk?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-7&pf_rd_r=BED91C8D6DF844CC93E4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=368704827&pf_rd_i=300992

France

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/videogames/530490/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_530490_more?pf_rd_p=338711867&pf_rd_s=right-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=530490&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_r=1SQTZ6V4P1GNHN4023N7

21th place xbox slim 34th place PS4

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#103 Zero_epyon
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@loe12k said:

In light of how badly the xbox one was selling inside Europe a year ago these are very Interesting stats for Germany. Xbox slim 15th place PS4 56th place. Remember this includes games and accessories too and xbox slim is more preordered then the PS4 version of Battlefield 1!

What i am noticing is PS4 games are hot items on Amazon Germany and France. But its obvious the slim is selling better then the PS4 right now inside Europe of all places!

https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=s9_ri_bw_clnk?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-7&pf_rd_r=BED91C8D6DF844CC93E4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=368704827&pf_rd_i=300992

France

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/videogames/530490/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_530490_more?pf_rd_p=338711867&pf_rd_s=right-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=530490&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_r=1SQTZ6V4P1GNHN4023N7

21th place xbox slim 34th place PS4

That's pretty interesting! It's trending higher here at number 4. Lets see if it can keep this up through the entire month.

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#104  Edited By loe12k
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@Zero_epyon said:
@loe12k said:

In light of how badly the xbox one was selling inside Europe a year ago these are very Interesting stats for Germany. Xbox slim 15th place PS4 56th place. Remember this includes games and accessories too and xbox slim is more preordered then the PS4 version of Battlefield 1!

What i am noticing is PS4 games are hot items on Amazon Germany and France. But its obvious the slim is selling better then the PS4 right now inside Europe of all places!

https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=s9_ri_bw_clnk?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-7&pf_rd_r=BED91C8D6DF844CC93E4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=368704827&pf_rd_i=300992

France

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/videogames/530490/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_530490_more?pf_rd_p=338711867&pf_rd_s=right-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=530490&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_r=1SQTZ6V4P1GNHN4023N7

21th place xbox slim 34th place PS4

That's pretty interesting! It's trending higher here at number 4. Lets see if it can keep this up through the entire month.

Sony biggest market is Europe they said it was a bigger market for them then the United States. I agree its interesting seeing the slim jumping ahead of the PS4 on there. Will it last who knows?

The reason i looked at this i have noticed lot more foreign people are playing Gears of War ultimate recently. You can hear them talking in the lobbies, have not got clue what they saying but its been noticeable the change!

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#105  Edited By oflow
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@Shewgenja: I still call BS your retreading theory. First of all, they announced only the 2 TB version was going on sale at first so the people that jumped on it the day it opened up probably all bought the 2TB version.

Buying an external has nothing to do with it really. Why buy an external if you could get the 2TB version in the same price range as buying the 500 and an external?

At this point, its far more likely most of the people buying are people that already own PS4s and want an XBox or 360 owners that waited than X1 owners retreading.

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#106  Edited By kingtito
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@Shewgenja: I still call BS your retreading theory. First of all, they announced only the 2 TB version was going on sale at first so the people that jumped on it the day it opened up probably all bought the 2TB version.

Buying an external has nothing to do with it really. Why buy an external if you could get the 2TB version in the same price range as buying the 500 and an external?

At this point, its far more likely most of the people buying are people that already own PS4s and want an XBox or 360 owners that waited than X1 owners retreading.

I find it funny how there were 80M+ 360 owners and only what 21M+ X1 owners yet anyone buying a slim now already owns an X1. It's not possible the 80M+ old 360 owners haven't finally decided to upgrade or that PS4 owners are buying the new X1 because they were waiting for the slim to come out.

Only in a cows mind does that not make any sense.

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#107 commander
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@commander said:
@Zero_epyon said:

That's awesome coming from the guy who makes threads about unknown indies being playable for a few weeks on Xbox One first.

yeah but at least my posts have some comedy to it.

I wouldn't brag about being a joke on sw...

there's a difference between being a joke and making a funny thread.

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#108 Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:
@oflow said:

@Shewgenja: I still call BS your retreading theory. First of all, they announced only the 2 TB version was going on sale at first so the people that jumped on it the day it opened up probably all bought the 2TB version.

Buying an external has nothing to do with it really. Why buy an external if you could get the 2TB version in the same price range as buying the 500 and an external?

At this point, its far more likely most of the people buying are people that already own PS4s and want an XBox or 360 owners that waited than X1 owners retreading.

I find it funny how there were 80M+ 360 owners and only what 21M+ X1 owners yet anyone buying a slim now already owns an X1. It's not possible the 80M+ old 360 owners haven't finally decided to upgrade or that PS4 owners are buying the new X1 because they were waiting for the slim to come out.

Only in a cows mind does that not make any sense.

Bookmarked for future ownage.

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#109 kingtito
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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@oflow said:

@Shewgenja: I still call BS your retreading theory. First of all, they announced only the 2 TB version was going on sale at first so the people that jumped on it the day it opened up probably all bought the 2TB version.

Buying an external has nothing to do with it really. Why buy an external if you could get the 2TB version in the same price range as buying the 500 and an external?

At this point, its far more likely most of the people buying are people that already own PS4s and want an XBox or 360 owners that waited than X1 owners retreading.

I find it funny how there were 80M+ 360 owners and only what 21M+ X1 owners yet anyone buying a slim now already owns an X1. It's not possible the 80M+ old 360 owners haven't finally decided to upgrade or that PS4 owners are buying the new X1 because they were waiting for the slim to come out.

Only in a cows mind does that not make any sense.

Bookmarked for future ownage.

LOL how are you going to prove it though? You going to survey every slim sold?

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#110 QuadKnight
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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@oflow said:

@Shewgenja: I still call BS your retreading theory. First of all, they announced only the 2 TB version was going on sale at first so the people that jumped on it the day it opened up probably all bought the 2TB version.

Buying an external has nothing to do with it really. Why buy an external if you could get the 2TB version in the same price range as buying the 500 and an external?

At this point, its far more likely most of the people buying are people that already own PS4s and want an XBox or 360 owners that waited than X1 owners retreading.

I find it funny how there were 80M+ 360 owners and only what 21M+ X1 owners yet anyone buying a slim now already owns an X1. It's not possible the 80M+ old 360 owners haven't finally decided to upgrade or that PS4 owners are buying the new X1 because they were waiting for the slim to come out.

Only in a cows mind does that not make any sense.

Bookmarked for future ownage.

He'll just deny everything when he's proven wrong. It's what lems have been doing all gen, they are clowns.

I still remember when Halo 5 was supposed to turn the tide and make Xbone dominate US again lol.

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#112 kingtito
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@quadknight said:

Bookmarked for future ownage.

He'll just deny everything when he's proven wrong. It's what lems have been doing all gen, they are clowns.

I still remember when Halo 5 was supposed to turn the tide and make Xbone dominate US again lol.

Spoken like a true cow. Never have I denied when I'm wrong and have admitted as much. You cows will spin and continue to move goalpost just as you're doing in this thread as well as the TF thread.

Never was that supposed to happen. You don't have to lie to kick it clown. I do see how that 400M in it's 1st week still burns a hole in you.

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#113 CanYouDiglt
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OP Sony wanted me to tell you that your check is in the mail for such great work on your negative campaign against Microsoft. The console is barely out but your preemptive defense against Xbox One S sales is appreciated by the Sony corp.

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#114 blackace
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@charizard1605 said:

Literally the exact opposite.

Xbox One S was sold out in the UK by yesterday, which was a day before it had even launched there.

Well perhaps in the UK it's doing well. We'll just have to see.

It is currently doing well on amazon. It's at #6 right now.

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_nav_0

I think the crow pie on your window sill is ready for consumption. lol!!

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@CanYouDiglt said:

OP Sony wanted me to tell you that your check is in the mail for such great work on your negative campaign against Microsoft. The console is barely out but your preemptive defense against Xbox One S sales is appreciated by the Sony corp.

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#116 Zero_epyon
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@blackace said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@charizard1605 said:

Literally the exact opposite.

Xbox One S was sold out in the UK by yesterday, which was a day before it had even launched there.

Well perhaps in the UK it's doing well. We'll just have to see.

It is currently doing well on amazon. It's at #6 right now.

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_nav_0

I think the crow pie on your window sill is ready for consumption. lol!!

Why would I eat crow?

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@Shewgenja said:
@FastRobby said:

I've seen it. It's an opinion, not really evidence to back it up...

It's not an opinion that the 500GB model is tracking way behind the 2TB model in sales. At least currently. We will see what things look like when that SKU drops but it has been swimming upstream since the announcement at e3. I am rather confident in this assertion. In 2016, people paying $400 for a console are previous owners upgrading, not new buyers.

That's the part where you don't have any evidence for, which is what I'm trying to point out to you the whole time. Don't give me the "me the guy on a internet forum knows how the markets work" explanation, because that's just silly.

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#118 Zero_epyon
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So apparently asking what others think about two contradicting pieces of evidence means you're a fanboy. Simply because one small possibility could be a negative for someone's favorite console.

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@Zero_epyon said:

So apparently asking what others think about two contradicting pieces of evidence means you're a fanboy. Simply because one small possibility could be a negative for someone's favorite console.

Nah, quite honestly you could have just posted the link and comment in Char's positive news X1S thread but you chose to highlight this false bad news in a brand new thread. Can't blame some for thinking you like and want to spread bad news for MS/Xbox. Just sayin. :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So apparently asking what others think about two contradicting pieces of evidence means you're a fanboy. Simply because one small possibility could be a negative for someone's favorite console.

Nah, quite honestly you could have just posted the link and comment in Char's positive news X1S thread but you chose to highlight this false bad news in a brand new thread. Can't blame some for thinking you like and want to spread bad news for MS/Xbox. Just sayin. :P

I actually made this thread at the same time I created the Xbox One DF review. Didn't really see Char's thread until the DF thread got locked. But it's not false bad news. It's not bad news at all. It's selling well, it's just that I expected Amazon to rank it higher in July.

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#121 SecretPolice
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@Zero_epyon said:
@SecretPolice said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So apparently asking what others think about two contradicting pieces of evidence means you're a fanboy. Simply because one small possibility could be a negative for someone's favorite console.

Nah, quite honestly you could have just posted the link and comment in Char's positive news X1S thread but you chose to highlight this false bad news in a brand new thread. Can't blame some for thinking you like and want to spread bad news for MS/Xbox. Just sayin. :P

I actually made this thread at the same time I created the Xbox One DF review. Didn't really see Char's thread until the DF thread got locked. But it's not false bad news. It's not bad news at all. It's selling well, it's just that I expected Amazon to rank it higher in July.

It's all good my friend, was just pointing out why some might see it differently. We kewl. :)

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#122 Shewgenja
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@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

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@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Even a broken clock...

And seriously those ridiculous statements "I have called every single dip, blabla, look at me, look at how good I am" is showing how insecure you are.

So can you show us numbers already of the number of people buying an Xbox One S that already own an Xbox One? If not, then you are just spitballing, and you can be ignored again.

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#124 Shewgenja
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@FastRobby: It's insecurity when I stand by what I say? Is this some kind of Halloween Document reverse psychology voodoo you are trying to weave?

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@FastRobby: It's insecurity when I stand by what I say? Is this some kind of Halloween Document reverse psychology voodoo you are trying to weave?

It's insecurity when you have to show your capabilities, because else no one will believe you. Since you couldn't show it with simple logic, or FACTS, you had to show "credentials". In any case you don't have a foot to stand on.

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#126 Shewgenja
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@FastRobby: You dont know my credentials, chief.

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@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: You dont know my credentials, chief.

You said them yourself. The whole "I guessed the price drop every time correctly" is the credential

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You can always tell who the dumbest fanboys are. Read this review for the Xbox slim (unverified purchase of course) and have a good laugh

By cytotoxictcell on August 3, 2016 Edition: 2TB - Launch EditionI have had four xbones break on me and I thought Microsoft would have done something g to fix the issue. I was wrong this xbone s broke the second power up. I did enjoy halo 7 but I went to sleep and turned off the xbone s and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks Microsoft I lose 600 $ more dollars. At least my ps4 that is 3 years old runs good.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-2TB-Console-Launch/product-reviews/B01GW3GM7I/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent#R11PBN01MH0S3O

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@loe12k said:

You can always tell who the dumbest fanboys are. Read this review for the Xbox slim (unverified of course) and have a good laugh

By cytotoxictcell on August 3, 2016 Edition: 2TB - Launch EditionI have had four xbones break on me and I thought Microsoft would have done something g to fix the issue. I was wrong this xbone s broke the second power up. I did enjoy halo 7 but I went to sleep and turned off the xbone s and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks Microsoft I lose 600 $ more dollars. At least my ps4 that is 3 years old runs good.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-2TB-Console-Launch/product-reviews/B01GW3GM7I/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent#R11PBN01MH0S3O

Lololol... you can always tell when they call Xbox Xbone or just Bone. Such bitter little tarts I tellz ya. :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@loe12k said:

You can always tell who the dumbest fanboys are. Read this review for the Xbox slim (unverified of course) and have a good laugh

By cytotoxictcell on August 3, 2016 Edition: 2TB - Launch EditionI have had four xbones break on me and I thought Microsoft would have done something g to fix the issue. I was wrong this xbone s broke the second power up. I did enjoy halo 7 but I went to sleep and turned off the xbone s and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks Microsoft I lose 600 $ more dollars. At least my ps4 that is 3 years old runs good.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-2TB-Console-Launch/product-reviews/B01GW3GM7I/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent#R11PBN01MH0S3O

Lololol... you can always tell when they call Xbox Xbone or just Bone. Such bitter little tarts I tellz ya. :P

Was not very smart Halo 7? And talk about hes PS4 lol they really do feel threatened by the xbox slim!

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Trouble in MS land????

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@SecretPolice said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@SecretPolice said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So apparently asking what others think about two contradicting pieces of evidence means you're a fanboy. Simply because one small possibility could be a negative for someone's favorite console.

Nah, quite honestly you could have just posted the link and comment in Char's positive news X1S thread but you chose to highlight this false bad news in a brand new thread. Can't blame some for thinking you like and want to spread bad news for MS/Xbox. Just sayin. :P

I actually made this thread at the same time I created the Xbox One DF review. Didn't really see Char's thread until the DF thread got locked. But it's not false bad news. It's not bad news at all. It's selling well, it's just that I expected Amazon to rank it higher in July.

It's all good my friend, was just pointing out why some might see it differently. We kewl. :)

Sure thanks!

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@loe12k said:
@SecretPolice said:
@loe12k said:

You can always tell who the dumbest fanboys are. Read this review for the Xbox slim (unverified of course) and have a good laugh

By cytotoxictcell on August 3, 2016 Edition: 2TB - Launch EditionI have had four xbones break on me and I thought Microsoft would have done something g to fix the issue. I was wrong this xbone s broke the second power up. I did enjoy halo 7 but I went to sleep and turned off the xbone s and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks Microsoft I lose 600 $ more dollars. At least my ps4 that is 3 years old runs good.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-2TB-Console-Launch/product-reviews/B01GW3GM7I/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent#R11PBN01MH0S3O

Lololol... you can always tell when they call Xbox Xbone or just Bone. Such bitter little tarts I tellz ya. :P

Was not very smart Halo 7? And talk about hes PS4 lol they really do feel threatened by the xbox slim!

For a decade or more they've been the most insecure rabid fanboys on the internets, crazy little critters I tell ya. lol :P

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#134 Shewgenja
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@SecretPolice said:
@loe12k said:
@SecretPolice said:
@loe12k said:

You can always tell who the dumbest fanboys are. Read this review for the Xbox slim (unverified of course) and have a good laugh

By cytotoxictcell on August 3, 2016 Edition: 2TB - Launch EditionI have had four xbones break on me and I thought Microsoft would have done something g to fix the issue. I was wrong this xbone s broke the second power up. I did enjoy halo 7 but I went to sleep and turned off the xbone s and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks Microsoft I lose 600 $ more dollars. At least my ps4 that is 3 years old runs good.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-2TB-Console-Launch/product-reviews/B01GW3GM7I/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent#R11PBN01MH0S3O

Lololol... you can always tell when they call Xbox Xbone or just Bone. Such bitter little tarts I tellz ya. :P

Was not very smart Halo 7? And talk about hes PS4 lol they really do feel threatened by the xbox slim!

For a decade or more they've been the most insecure rabid fanboys on the internets, crazy little critters I tell ya. lol :P

You were saying?

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@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Actually it was $50 not $150. Removing the Kinect from 1 skew is not a price drop. It's a new skew minus 1 of the more expensive parts. The Kinect skew was still selling and at $450

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@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Actually it was $50 not $150. Removing the Kinect from 1 skew is not a price drop. It's a new skew minus 1 of the more expensive parts. The Kinect skew was still selling and at $450

The original SKU was $500 and MS went into this gen promising its fanbase that they would not unmarry the Kinect. There is no technicality about it. The cost of entry to the XBox went from $500 to $350. If one were taking MS at face value, there was no way to predict those moves. You cannot blame me for their credibility gap. The onus is not on me to predict that they will abandon their messaging.

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#137 kingtito
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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Actually it was $50 not $150. Removing the Kinect from 1 skew is not a price drop. It's a new skew minus 1 of the more expensive parts. The Kinect skew was still selling and at $450

The original SKU was $500 and MS went into this gen promising its fanbase that they would not unmarry the Kinect. There is no technicality about it. The cost of entry to the XBox went from $500 to $350. If one were taking MS at face value, there was no way to predict those moves. You cannot blame me for their credibility gap. The onus is not on me to predict that they will abandon their messaging.

That's irrelevant. Things happen and visions change. The fact that they created a skew that removed the Kinect BUT were still selling the original Kinect skew, negates your claim of a price drop of $150. You're reaching with this one Shew.

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#138  Edited By Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Actually it was $50 not $150. Removing the Kinect from 1 skew is not a price drop. It's a new skew minus 1 of the more expensive parts. The Kinect skew was still selling and at $450

The original SKU was $500 and MS went into this gen promising its fanbase that they would not unmarry the Kinect. There is no technicality about it. The cost of entry to the XBox went from $500 to $350. If one were taking MS at face value, there was no way to predict those moves. You cannot blame me for their credibility gap. The onus is not on me to predict that they will abandon their messaging.

That's irrelevant. Things happen and visions change. The fact that they created a skew that removed the Kinect BUT were still selling the original Kinect skew, negates your claim of a price drop of $150. You're reaching with this one Shew.

No. I got called out in December of that year about a prediction I made right after Titanfall released. In this case, context is literally everything.

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#139  Edited By Zero_epyon
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Just checked June's rankings and it seems that June is when most of the preorders occurred.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016-06/videogames#1

This explains the really low numbers for July. There's verry little chance of the PS4 outselling the Xbox One slim now. This reminds me of the Batman Bundles last year.

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They're pretty hard to get in my area, I was able to get one today finally at a stupid Gamestop, because a pre-order there never got picked up and they finally put it out for sale.

"Did you know Gears of War 4 is coming out soon!?" Can't stand that place

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@drummerdave9099 said:

They're pretty hard to get in my area, I was able to get one today finally at a stupid Gamestop, because a pre-order there never got picked up and they finally put it out for sale.

"Did you know Gears of War 4 is coming out soon!?" Can't stand that place

Last thing I bought from there was a Wii U controller. In and out. Don't give them any opportunity to ask me about games. I know what's coming out damn it.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@drummerdave9099 said:

They're pretty hard to get in my area, I was able to get one today finally at a stupid Gamestop, because a pre-order there never got picked up and they finally put it out for sale.

"Did you know Gears of War 4 is coming out soon!?" Can't stand that place

Last thing I bought from there was a Wii U controller. In and out. Don't give them any opportunity to ask me about games. I know what's coming out damn it.

That's too bad. My local Gamestops in the Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, and Canton Michigan areas are great. The staff at every one of those locations is very friendly and knowledgeable. I've talked games with them, hunted Amiibo with them and even waited in line on console release nights with them.

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@drummerdave9099 said:

They're pretty hard to get in my area, I was able to get one today finally at a stupid Gamestop, because a pre-order there never got picked up and they finally put it out for sale.

"Did you know Gears of War 4 is coming out soon!?" Can't stand that place

Last thing I bought from there was a Wii U controller. In and out. Don't give them any opportunity to ask me about games. I know what's coming out damn it.

That's too bad. My local Gamestops in the Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, and Canton Michigan areas are great. The staff at every one of those locations is very friendly and knowledgeable. I've talked games with them, hunted Amiibo with them and even waited in line on console release nights with them.

Lucky you. The one in my neighborhood is a mixed bag. I'm the kind of person that goes to a store already know what they want. So sometimes there are people there that just let me do that and don't try to sell me anymore than what I ask for. Then there are those that refuse to let me leave the store without selling me something or getting me to preorder anything. Like at this point everyone should know that there's a new Call of Duty coming.

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There is no need for an X1S

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Xbox One S is a very appealing product, the new tech capability, and overall design. It's still a great upgrade from the base Xbox. I don't think people should ever underestimate the appetite for NOW. That's why we invented credit cards.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@GoldenElementXL said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@drummerdave9099 said:

They're pretty hard to get in my area, I was able to get one today finally at a stupid Gamestop, because a pre-order there never got picked up and they finally put it out for sale.

"Did you know Gears of War 4 is coming out soon!?" Can't stand that place

Last thing I bought from there was a Wii U controller. In and out. Don't give them any opportunity to ask me about games. I know what's coming out damn it.

That's too bad. My local Gamestops in the Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, and Canton Michigan areas are great. The staff at every one of those locations is very friendly and knowledgeable. I've talked games with them, hunted Amiibo with them and even waited in line on console release nights with them.

Lucky you. The one in my neighborhood is a mixed bag. I'm the kind of person that goes to a store already know what they want. So sometimes there are people there that just let me do that and don't try to sell me anymore than what I ask for. Then there are those that refuse to let me leave the store without selling me something or getting me to preorder anything. Like at this point everyone should know that there's a new Call of Duty coming.

Yeah there's one near where I live and another near where I work. They just won't quit about warranties and pre-ordering stuff whenever I go in. Today they had this big display of Mighty No 9 behind the counter so I pointed to it and said "I don't pre-order stuff because sometimes you end up with turds like that" and that got her to quiet down haha!

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This thread was made literally hours after it was launched. What was the point of this drivel again?

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@Zero_epyon:

As of now from this post, ps4 is at #19 best seller on Amazon while Xbox One S is at #39.

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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@FastRobby: Well, I'm not going anywhere and so far, I have called every single dip and rise this generation on the money with one exception. Anyone who could have predicted a $150 dollar year one price cut on a console would have been foolish to do so.

So, like, this ought to be fun. Really. It makes life interesting to be proven wrong.

Actually it was $50 not $150. Removing the Kinect from 1 skew is not a price drop. It's a new skew minus 1 of the more expensive parts. The Kinect skew was still selling and at $450

The original SKU was $500 and MS went into this gen promising its fanbase that they would not unmarry the Kinect. There is no technicality about it. The cost of entry to the XBox went from $500 to $350. If one were taking MS at face value, there was no way to predict those moves. You cannot blame me for their credibility gap. The onus is not on me to predict that they will abandon their messaging.

That's irrelevant. Things happen and visions change. The fact that they created a skew that removed the Kinect BUT were still selling the original Kinect skew, negates your claim of a price drop of $150. You're reaching with this one Shew.

No. I got called out in December of that year about a prediction I made right after Titanfall released. In this case, context is literally everything.

Ok but that still doesn't == $150 price drop

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@killered3 said:

@Zero_epyon:

As of now from this post, ps4 is at #19 best seller on Amazon while Xbox One S is at #39.

Even with that I don't see the PS4 outselling for July. Maybe August.