Xbox one to support mods.

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#101 R3FURBISHED
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What say you system wars about this.?

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misleading title is misleading

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#102 tagyhag
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Now that would be VERY cool. Shame no console players will use it because "I'M PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY THE DEV WANTED ME TO PLAY!"
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#103 Ly_the_Fairy
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Halo 5 plus mods 3545895097.gif

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#104 FastEddie2121
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All I want is this:

yes yes yes yes

*snaps into a Slim Jim*

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#105 Demonjoe93
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This will make game developers lazy and force the game community to complete the development of the game. Look at Bethesda for example, they released so many incomplete games.narutosup

I really hope that doesn't happen.

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#106 Zuzuvela
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This is one of the few things that can make me switch from PS4 to X1 That will be the biggest thing for next gen to me
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#107 lostrib
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This is one of the few things that can make me switch from PS4 to X1 That will be the biggest thing for next gen to me Zuzuvela

just get a PC then if you want to mod things

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#108 Zuzuvela
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[QUOTE="Zuzuvela"]This is one of the few things that can make me switch from PS4 to X1 That will be the biggest thing for next gen to me lostrib

just get a PC then if you want to mod things

PC gaming isnt a realistic option for me in terms of practicality If it was possible,I would probably have switched by now
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#109 Sparky04
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I wouldn't be suprised to see A LOT of texture packs for Minecraft. The difficulty with this is obviously what kind of mods would be allowed, since console games tend to be using all of the resources of a system, mods that demand more performance wouldn't work as well as they do on PC simply because there are gaming PC's with much more horsepower than others.

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#110 lostrib
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I wouldn't be suprised to see A LOT of texture packs for Minecraft. The difficulty with this is obviously what kind of mods would be allowed, since console games tend to be using all of the resources of a system, mods that demand more performance wouldn't work as well as they do on PC simply because there are gaming PC's with much more horsepower than others.

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i doubt we will see any form of graphics mods.  Probably reskins and custom levels

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#111 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Yup. Which is why it won't mean shit.Chutebox
*facepalm* One of the main benefits of PC gaming is mods. I know some console gamers that have switched to PC for this one reason. Cockroach intelligence lowers more and more every day.

You should probably realize what I was actually saying before saying stupid shit.

Seriously, the ppl who defend X1 are some the biggest morons on the planet. Its no wonder though

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#112 Jankarcop
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1. Not happening.

 

 

2. I thought you guys said "mods sucks guyz :cry: " lol :lol:

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#113 lowkey254
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This will make game developers lazy and force the game community to complete the development of the game. Look at Bethesda for example, they released so many incomplete games.narutosup
That's already the case as it is, but instead they charge us for DLC to complete the experience.
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#114 mitu123
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Lol, that would be huge!

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#115 Douevenlift_bro
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Lol, that would be huge!

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As huge as it was on PS3 lol

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#116 wolverine4262
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Interesting, but Ill believe it when i see it. There were a number of things that MS promised with live before the the 360 came out that never materialized. Regardless, it wont be nearly as robust as the PC mod community, and anyone that that feels modding is that important to them will probably just go to the PC anyway.

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#117 harry_james_pot  Moderator
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What about "mods don't count"? And "teh developers true vision!!!"? You guys are ridiculous.. :lol: And don't get too excited. MS wouldn't want random mods running on their precious console, they'll definitely want control over that. Maybe charge money for them or something. And even if that did happen, it won't include graphics mods.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] You should probably realize what I was actually saying before saying stupid shit.

Elaborate

Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.

Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] *facepalm* One of the main benefits of PC gaming is mods. I know some console gamers that have switched to PC for this one reason. Cockroach intelligence lowers more and more every day. Douevenlift_bro

You should probably realize what I was actually saying before saying stupid shit.

Seriously, the ppl who defend X1 are some the biggest morons on the planet. Its no wonder though

Biggest morons? I admit some of us are not the smartest men in the room, but biggest morons? I think you have lems and cockroaches mixed up.
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Elaborate

Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.

Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?
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#121 Seabas989
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That would be cool of true.

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#122 djshowstopper87
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This would be awesome if true and would be a HUGE advantage over the ps4. IF microsoft wants to stick it to Sony make this thing offical!

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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.clyde46
Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?

Pretty much this will be the reason that many publishers won't include modding support.  Anything that could potentially eat into their bottom line no matter how small is going to be verbotten on consoles.

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#124 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Elaborate

Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.

Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

Don't get much more dumb than this.
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#125 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] ElaborateShaineTheNerd
Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.

Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

depends what mods they would allow.  I doubt they would allow mods like the skyrim 2k textures, and I don't think they could implement things like ENB/SweetFx

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#126 lostrib
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow. menes777

If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?

Pretty much this will be the reason that many publishers won't include modding support.  Anything that could potentially eat into their bottom line no matter how small is going to be verbotten on consoles.

Bethesda allows mods on PC and we have DLC

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#127 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?lostrib

Pretty much this will be the reason that many publishers won't include modding support.  Anything that could potentially eat into their bottom line no matter how small is going to be verbotten on consoles.

Bethesda allows mods on PC and we have DLC

They won't do it because it's consoles and why go through extra work? They had a chance to do this with PS3 and we have seen it once...it's not going to happen.
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#128 djshowstopper87
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="menes777"]

Pretty much this will be the reason that many publishers won't include modding support. Anything that could potentially eat into their bottom line no matter how small is going to be verbotten on consoles.

Chutebox

Bethesda allows mods on PC and we have DLC

They won't do it because it's consoles and why go through extra work? They had a chance to do this with PS3 and we have seen it once...it's not going to happen.

Sony fanboy running scared

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#129 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Bethesda allows mods on PC and we have DLC

djshowstopper87

They won't do it because it's consoles and why go through extra work? They had a chance to do this with PS3 and we have seen it once...it's not going to happen.

Sony fanboy running scared

Yes, totally scared.
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#130 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Bethesda allows mods on PC and we have DLC

djshowstopper87

They won't do it because it's consoles and why go through extra work? They had a chance to do this with PS3 and we have seen it once...it's not going to happen.

Sony fanboy running scared

the mods will probably be pretty basic reskins and maps. 

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[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] They won't do it because it's consoles and why go through extra work? They had a chance to do this with PS3 and we have seen it once...it's not going to happen.lostrib

Sony fanboy running scared

the mods will probably be pretty basic reskins and maps. 

If more than 4 games have mods i'll be pleasantly surprised.

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#132 rockydog1111
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How would this work with MS doing the verification process that developers complain about so much? Then there is the fact that MS forces people to charge for content over Live.

If it is true, then awesome and my hype for the console went up a bit, but something tells me that it won't have the same type of mod support as pc. How would they give consumers the mod toos. My guess would be that mods would be transferrable from the PC to the One kinda like UC3 on PS3, though that was a worthless gesture they gave us.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.

Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?

I don't know, ask PC gamers.
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How would this work with MS doing the verification process that developers complain about so much? Then there is the fact that MS forces people to charge for content over Live.

If it is true, then awesome and my hype for the console went up a bit, but something tells me that it won't have the same type of mod support as pc. How would they give consumers the mod toos. My guess would be that mods would be transferrable from the PC to the One kinda like UC3 on PS3, though that was a worthless gesture they gave us.

rockydog1111

Microsoft is embracing the same certification process Apple does with the App store, so I think a 14 day turnover. And that was never true that MS force people to charge. Theres plenty of free stuff on XBL.

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#135 Jakandsigz
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If it's true then the game is over. Having mods run games at high framerates with great graphics on a system that is cheaper than a PC, and will last at least half a decade? Fun mods like big heads and everyone has flame throwers? I honestly see no way but victory, but something tells me they will drop that opportunity.
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#136 pelvist
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Sounds like a dream for console gamers even though "mods dont count". "mods ruin the game" and "99% of mods suck" according to them. However I think thats all it will ever turn out to be ...a dream. Keep dreaming console gamers. Remeber the "mods" people made on on LBP? Or the "mods" you made in Forge? Expect somethign like that, if anything at all.

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#137 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Until they state specific details regarding how this would work, and it starts turning into an actual tangible thing, this is kind of a non-thing.
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Won't happen, Publishers/Devs don't even want mods on PC anymore, since they lose money on DLC

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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Had nothing to do with PC mods. I know they're awesome. Point was on consoles the devs won't care and the community won't care.clyde46
Why in the hell would someone, say Bethesda, not allow modding on a console game, but allow it on PC? And if consoles allowed modding, why would people buy a gaming PC just for mods, when it could be done on their system? Jealousy is an ugly color, cow.

If consoles had mods, why would they buy DLC?

consolites would pay for mods and eat it up

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#140 shellcase86
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They will not follow through with that. Xbox is a closed ecosystem, not gonna fly.

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Consolites, you tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully tell you, why it cannot be.
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#142 AlexKidd5000
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]Holyshit that would be HUGE!tormentos

Holyshit, Tormentos is posting something positive about the Xbox One! :P j/k

 

Mods are great is impossible to deny that,the PS3 supported mods but only 1 game came and allowed the feature UT 3 which even allowed PC mods to even run on PS3.

 

I wish sony and MS would support this,but i see it as all talk no substance from both sides,the PS3 already did it,but the whole DLC for money crap kill it,mods will compete directly with DLC which some game houses like EA and many others will not like.

Exactly my thoughts, and that I just don't see MS allowing it.
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#143 AlexKidd5000
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i call bullshyt.

ms can barely give up enough control over the system for approved games how the hell does anyone expect them to just let anyone do a game mod?

Riverwolf007
Also, if you think about it, modding could also mean full conversion mods, which means, people could make there own games, I don't think the console makers would like that. as it would probably take away from game sales.
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#144 lowe0
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Now that would be VERY cool. Shame no console players will use it because "I'M PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY THE DEV WANTED ME TO PLAY!"tagyhag
Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly.
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Now that would be VERY cool. Shame no console players will use it because "I'M PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY THE DEV WANTED ME TO PLAY!"lowe0
Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly.

Equally, they can't prove that mods ruin games.
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#146 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Okay, that would be a big deal.
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Now that would be VERY cool. Shame no console players will use it because "I'M PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY THE DEV WANTED ME TO PLAY!"lowe0
Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly.

LOL oh boy here we go.  That line is used so often to show that mods are not an advantage.  It has nothing to do with preference.  It's when consolites can't think of any real argument so they resort to that and it means nothing.  It's a pointless argument.

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#148 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]Now that would be VERY cool. Shame no console players will use it because "I'M PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY THE DEV WANTED ME TO PLAY!"clyde46
Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly.

Equally, they can't prove that mods ruin games.

That would be because it's entirely an individual preference. I can explain that I like authenticity in classic games, but if others want modified versions, my preference doesn't impact that at all.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly.

Equally, they can't prove that mods ruin games.

That would be because it's entirely an individual preference. I can explain that I like authenticity in classic games, but if others want modified versions, my preference doesn't impact that at all.

If its an individual preference, then why do console users claim otherwise?
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#150 menes777
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly. lowe0
Equally, they can't prove that mods ruin games.

That would be because it's entirely an individual preference. I can explain that I like authenticity in classic games, but if others want modified versions, my preference doesn't impact that at all.

And we are back to the preferences argument.