Xbox one to support mods.

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#201 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Mods on the Xbox One, it says it in the title. harry_james_pot

based on his earlier posts, apparently lowe can't read

Don't be silly.. He's only here to ruin fun, not read!

he came here to chew bubble gum and ruin fun...and he's all out of bubble gum

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#202 lowe0
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Mods on the Xbox One, it says it in the title.

It's within System Wars. The purpose is to compare and debate platforms. What's the point in discussion if we're not going to discuss what it adds to the value proposition?

Value has nothing to do with this thread. It is a report that mods are being considered for the X1. Once again, I refer you to the title of this topic.

And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.
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#203 clyde46
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] It's within System Wars. The purpose is to compare and debate platforms. What's the point in discussion if we're not going to discuss what it adds to the value proposition?

Value has nothing to do with this thread. It is a report that mods are being considered for the X1. Once again, I refer you to the title of this topic.

And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.

And? The fact that its still here and has been going for 5 pages means its not off-topic.
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#204 lowe0
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Value has nothing to do with this thread. It is a report that mods are being considered for the X1. Once again, I refer you to the title of this topic.

And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.

And? The fact that its still here and has been going for 5 pages means its not off-topic.

An appeal to popularity? Weak.
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#205 lostrib
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] It's within System Wars. The purpose is to compare and debate platforms. What's the point in discussion if we're not going to discuss what it adds to the value proposition?lowe0
Value has nothing to do with this thread. It is a report that mods are being considered for the X1. Once again, I refer you to the title of this topic.

And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.

then report it to the mods

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#206 Senor_Kami
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I can see them using this as a way to shoehorn GFWL on to people. Basically make "GFWL Workshop" where if a PC gamer buys the GFWL version of a game, the mods they make can be tested/played on the Xbox One. But this thread is kinda silly. I like how the quote is someone jumping to their own kinda merit-less conclusions, the MS dude is like, "no, no, these are two totally different things were talking about," and that's seen as confirmation.
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#207 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Value has nothing to do with this thread. It is a report that mods are being considered for the X1. Once again, I refer you to the title of this topic. lostrib

And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.

then report it to the mods

I prefer to deal with things more directly. Which reminds me... how about the whole "preference vs. damage control" thing that's still hanging out there? Any comment?
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#208 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] And once again, I refer you to the statement of purpose on the main page. If the discussion isn't comparative, then it's off topic for System Wars, and should be moved to another forum.lowe0

then report it to the mods

I prefer to deal with things more directly. Which reminds me... how about the whole "preference vs. damage control" thing that's still hanging out there? Any comment?

I never made any comment on that matter

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#209 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

then report it to the mods

lostrib

I prefer to deal with things more directly. Which reminds me... how about the whole "preference vs. damage control" thing that's still hanging out there? Any comment?

I never made any comment on that matter

And would you care to now?
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#210 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I prefer to deal with things more directly. Which reminds me... how about the whole "preference vs. damage control" thing that's still hanging out there? Any comment?lowe0

I never made any comment on that matter

And would you care to now?

why?

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#211 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

I never made any comment on that matter

lostrib

And would you care to now?

why?

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out: to contribute to the discussion.
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#212 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] And would you care to now?lowe0

why?

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out: to contribute to the discussion.

Why would i? you never do

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#213 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

why?

lostrib

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out: to contribute to the discussion.

Why would i? you never do

Mmhmm. But seriously, preference vs. damage control.
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#214 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out: to contribute to the discussion.lowe0

Why would i? you never do

Mmhmm. But seriously, preference vs. damage control.

but seriously, xbox one to support mods

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#215 xmanfan91
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IF this is true then I'm definitely getting an X1 over a PS4. And instead of PS4+PC it'll be X1+PC. I'm slowly going back into the Xbox camp. Again IF this does happen.

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#216 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Or you lose the debate. (And before you claim that you're not trying to debate, by posting here, you are.)lowe0

what debate?

In this thread, specifically? Whether mods add value to the Xbox One.

this is why everyone thinks you are a moron

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#217 XBOunity
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Sony already supported mods look at unreal tournament for ps3 soo nothing new here

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Did sony also allow your ps3 to be a dev kit like they are doing with Microsoft

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#218 XBNJim
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

cant wait to mod dead rising 3, and turn all the killer zombies into underaged anime girls :oops:

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Overpriced underspecced console confirmed.

If I wanted a bad JRPG player I'd beat up an anime nerd and steal his.
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#219 Bazooka_4ME
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We'll see how MS is going to handle this in addition to DLC.
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#220 UnknownSniper65
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I don't believe it for a second...at least not at the same level as PC. Community addons have the ability to completely break your game on PC if they are installed improperly or even removed from a save. I've had to reinstall more than a few games because of addons not playing nice with eachother or the game itself. 

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#221 NTSC-U
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xbone catching up to ps3 capabilities, nice.campzor

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#222 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Remember, everyone, if you can't conclusively prove that someone's preference is wrong, just repeat it mockingly. lowe0

LOL oh boy here we go.  That line is used so often to show that mods are not an advantage.  It has nothing to do with preference.  It's when consolites can't think of any real argument so they resort to that and it means nothing.  It's a pointless argument.

No, I actually prefer games to be as pure and unadulterated as possible. For legacy games, I went so far as to build a 3dfx/Aureal PC (with spares to keep it running). So no, it's not just for the sake of argument.

Just because you're weird doesn't mean everyone else here is weird too. :P It's easier to just say "Mods ruin the game" rather than have it be yet another advantage on a competitive system.
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#223 SchnabbleTab
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To work on a console a dev would have to provide pretty extensive modding tools. Not sure how this would work ....blue_hazy_basic

 

The mods would be done on PC of course and then ported to Xbone, I guess it would be similar to UT3 for PC/PS3.

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#224 KungfuKitten
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Even if it would become a PC, a PC would be financially more attractive to buy. If you got the dough saved up to jump that first hurdle, and I almost have.

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#225 uninspiredcup
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Developers wont want to support it because it means taking money away from selling them (dlc) and highlighting how bad DLC is.

So, nothing to worry about here. Pc still the best, sorry kids.

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#226 silversix_
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Like mods were in unreal 2007 on ps3
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#227 Cherokee_Jack
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Yeah no it won't.

Neither of them will.

They haven't even finished unfvcking their current cert process for commercial content.

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#228 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="menes777"]

LOL oh boy here we go.  That line is used so often to show that mods are not an advantage.  It has nothing to do with preference.  It's when consolites can't think of any real argument so they resort to that and it means nothing.  It's a pointless argument.

tagyhag
No, I actually prefer games to be as pure and unadulterated as possible. For legacy games, I went so far as to build a 3dfx/Aureal PC (with spares to keep it running). So no, it's not just for the sake of argument.

Just because you're weird doesn't mean everyone else here is weird too. :P It's easier to just say "Mods ruin the game" rather than have it be yet another advantage on a competitive system.

Why assume that people who have a different opinion than you must be doing so solely for the sake of argument? How do you support that?
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#229 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Mods? LOL

Who would want mods, they make games into crappy fan games, no thanks

I hope the PS4 won't allow this

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#230 SecretPolice
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Cool but does it support Rangers? :twisted:

Anyway, looking forward to see if and how much it's utilized.

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#231 Gaming-Planet
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That would be cool but I already do that on PC.

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#232 Kelleyb4947
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Hey, I made a petition to help bring mods to consoles at change.org. The petition also works to help devs get wider profit margins by giving them a share of used game's sales. Please, if you have a minute, click the link and sign. 

https://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-help-establish-a-mod-market-for-console-games

Below is the info you will see if you click the link. It explains what will happen if the petition succeeds, and below that is the actual petition letter:

Mods are equivalent to downloadable content, but mods are made by the fans for the community. With fan-made content we can have things like a skyrim add-on that is 1/3 the size of the original Skyrim, and is free! These things exist, and on the next Xbox console you will have the ability to create such content. We need the support of the DEVs and the support of Microsoft to make this happen. Please take the time to consider this awesome opportunity. If you are against Microsoft, please contemplate the ramifications of this change on the rest of the market. A Mod (fan-made content) is great for everyone, and spurs innovation in the minds of the developers. the PS4 will also have a debug kit available for purchase to those who have the skills to create game content. 

We are also signing this petition so that the developers, the ones we know and love, can get the money they deserve for selling these games. When you buy and sell used games you give no money to the people who worked thousands of hours to create those games. If this petition passed, as a consumer, you would not have to change the way you buy and sell games; the 3rd party retailers that are stealing money from the developers would be held accountable for the money those developers deserve. 

In turn, we would get games that offer many more hours of gameplay per dollar that you payed for them. We would get the same content PC owners recieve at places like Steam, and we would get game prices that match Steam's as well. Anyone who has the skills to create content for games, should sign. In doing so you are showing the industry that we no longer want downloadable content that costs as much as the game you purchased that content for. It is time to take a stand for the future of gaming. 

To: 
Julie Larson-Green, Executive Vice-President of the Devices and Studios group at Microsoft 

We sign because we wish to widen the profit margins of the developers we love. We fight the 3rd party retailers that make millions and leave us with downloadable-content that costs more than the games we purchase them for. We need, and you want, a market where your developers get the funding they want and need. We sign to ask you to bring back what was once a perfect market, and give us a marketplace that we supply. Our creativity will guide us. Using the debug kits found in your new console, mods beget profits, but no one will invest. End this liquidity trap. 

Offer developers the security they need to support mods, make sure developers get a piece of used game sales at 3rd party retailing outlets, and we the gamers will make sure you see no red in your ledger. We ask only that our skilled community have a chance to develop these add-ons, just as they will in your self-published indie games market.

Sincerely, 
[Your name]

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#233 Zoso813
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Interesting, but could really care less. If you want to mod/use mods, stick to PC.
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#234 Alpha_S_
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That would be nice if would happen, but excuse me while I don't hold my breath.  Also, some people seem awfully eager to make consoles more like PCs...so why not just game on PC and get that stuff already?

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#235 Crypt_mx
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Mods? LOL

Who would want mods, they make games into crappy fan games, no thanks

I hope the PS4 won't allow this

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LOL are you serious? You wouldn't want the PS4 to allow mod support? Why not? Even if it did you wouldn't have to use them if you didn't want to...

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#236 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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But mods don't count, they ruin the developers vision! I love how quick attitudes change when something like this is announced.

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#237 robokill
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The fact is mods are a good thing, they inspire developers to improve their games and up their standards. Skyrim is still one of the top pc games around solely because of the modding, hell, gamespot does a special on the mods of the week. Anyone who thinks mods are irrelevant are just plain ignorant. Mods take Skyrim from a boring snoozefest to the best looking game ever with amazing combat (yes, the combat can be good if you mod it right).
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#238 Cyberdot
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Knowing Microsoft, I smell bullshit on this one.

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#239 PCgameruk
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Its always Mods wreck games on PC until they come to console. Isn't that right peasants?

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#240 jsmoke03
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M$ would force the developer to charge for itheeweesRus
yea, from what i heard ms had that policy for the 360
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#241 R4gn4r0k
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PS3 supported mods too. They were available in one game: UT3.

So I'll believe it when I see it.

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#242 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]How about some examples?harry_james_pot
No one is going to go back and find examples for you, go find them yourself. They're in every mod related thread on SW. And since you always show up in those threads with your meaningless arguments, I'm pretty sure you saw some of those examples..

So true, he knows what clyde is talking about but he just wants to act stupid. What an idiot.

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#243 strawhatlupi
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modding in general is a good thing. but given the current trend of games, it will only provide an excuse for the developer to produce a broken, non creative games... "let the community fix it". basically that frees them from providing support, it also helps in selling the core game without spending anything. they might even hijack an awesome free mod and make tons of many selling it.
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#244 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]MS might win the next gen if this news is true. Mods is one of the biggest reasons why games are superior on PC (imo).jimmyrussle117

modding a game using a controller... well that doesn't sound fun now does it.

Ever heard of KB/M for console :?
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#245 R4gn4r0k
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modding in general is a good thing. but given the current trend of games, it will only provide an excuse for the developer to produce a broken, non creative games... "let the community fix it". basically that frees them from providing support, it also helps in selling the core game without spending anything.strawhatlupi

From my experience the biggest supporters of mods always release quality products that aren't broken. They see modding and modders as a way to sell their game for longer or bring new talent into this industry.

If as a developer, the sole reason you allow modding is to fix your own mess of a game than that mentality won't get you very far.

they might even hijack an awesome free mod and make tons of many selling it.strawhatlupi

That already happens. See the creators of 'The Ship' and assassin's creed multiplayer: Ubisoft hired the creators of a popular HL2 mod and they took their idea for their AC multiplayer. After that they fired them. That is just one example, but it's still very sad to see.

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#246 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Mods? LOL

Who would want mods, they make games into crappy fan games, no thanks

I hope the PS4 won't allow this

Crypt_mx

LOL are you serious? You wouldn't want the PS4 to allow mod support? Why not? Even if it did you wouldn't have to use them if you didn't want to...

He's trolling, and insanely jealous of modding capabilities. It's pretty much his entire act. Just adblock him. He doesn't actually believe a word of his own bullshit, and it's painfully obvious. Not even a good troll.

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#247 R4gn4r0k
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He's trolling, and insanely jealous of modding capabilities. It's pretty much his entire act. Just adblock him. He doesn't actually believe a word of his own bullshit, and it's painfully obvious. Not even a good troll.

the_bi99man

He just hates everything that's not on his godstation. If mods were available on PS4 and reached the same quality as on PC he would be all over them. That's fanboy logic for you.

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#248 lowe0
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[QUOTE="harry_james_pot"][QUOTE="lowe0"]How about some examples?R4gn4r0k

No one is going to go back and find examples for you, go find them yourself. They're in every mod related thread on SW. And since you always show up in those threads with your meaningless arguments, I'm pretty sure you saw some of those examples..

So true, he knows what clyde is talking about but he just wants to act stupid. What an idiot.

No, I understand what he's saying. It's just wrong is all. Where are these miraculous conversions? To presume that others secretly think exactly as you do, and are concealing it for the sake of argument... the arrogance is, sadly, unsurprising.
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#249 Cuby_Finest
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cant wait to mod dead rising 3, and turn all the killer zombies into underaged anime girls :oops:

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#250 XBOunity
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i never did modding, and i rarely downloaded mods for games, but lets say skyrim 3 allowed for mods...   how would it be implemented on Xbox One?   Lets pretend xbox one supports mods and its actually implemented like it is on PC.   Would i download the patch???    someone who knows about mods please explain to me?   and who would create them?