Xbox One X's Project Cars 2 running 4K (update)

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#151 deactivated-5a8875b6c648f
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So not 4k

Or 60 fps

And probably not ultra settings

So nothing really surprising...

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#152 Zero_epyon
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@asylumni said:
@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa He owned your ass...

A 1070GTX averaging 60FPS in 4k and not dropping below 60FPS in minimum frames...Hahahhaaaa

He is using a Benchmarks from Toms Hardware yours who in hell knows from where it is and we don't know if there is a CPU or drive issue on that one.

So Scorpio can't hold 4k at 60FPS just like the xbox one could not hold 1080p in PC either,Ian is very clear they would have to drops a horde of things to make it run at 60 in 4k,so they will scale to 4k and even so 60 FPS is not warranty.

Remember how i told you to wait for actual games to come out? Remember that i told you to stop using Forza?

Yeah another win for me,just like on xbox one Forza runs at 60FPS at 1080p,while Project Cars was 900p with no AA and dropped to hell and beyond.

Now the history repeat it self again,Forza hits 60FPS at 4k,while Project Cars get can't and hit sub 4k with dropped frames as well.

Basically you don't get one right..lol

Try again old man.

"Old man"? Why you gotta bring me into this? But I did notice something interesting. Just a little to the right of that frame counter, it shows GPU usage at 60%. CPU usage is also at a low 37% and there's plenty of RAM to spare. Now, given the statements that Xbox One X will be running (PCARS 2) at a sub-4K resolution and dropping under 60 FPS, this would more point to the Xbox One X being closer to 50% of a GTX 1070 than its equivalent.

Looks like he's trying to start a personality war. I thought he didn't start them?

In any case he's ignoring, for the second time, that this is a stress test on the entire system. There are 36 cars on the track in that video.

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#153  Edited By ronvalencia
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@asylumni said:
@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa He owned your ass...

A 1070GTX averaging 60FPS in 4k and not dropping below 60FPS in minimum frames...Hahahhaaaa

He is using a Benchmarks from Toms Hardware yours who in hell knows from where it is and we don't know if there is a CPU or drive issue on that one.

So Scorpio can't hold 4k at 60FPS just like the xbox one could not hold 1080p in PC either,Ian is very clear they would have to drops a horde of things to make it run at 60 in 4k,so they will scale to 4k and even so 60 FPS is not warranty.

Remember how i told you to wait for actual games to come out? Remember that i told you to stop using Forza?

Yeah another win for me,just like on xbox one Forza runs at 60FPS at 1080p,while Project Cars was 900p with no AA and dropped to hell and beyond.

Now the history repeat it self again,Forza hits 60FPS at 4k,while Project Cars get can't and hit sub 4k with dropped frames as well.

Basically you don't get one right..lol

Try again old man.

"Old man"? Why you gotta bring me into this? But I did notice something interesting. Just a little to the right of that frame counter, it shows GPU usage at 60%. CPU usage is also at a low 37% and there's plenty of RAM to spare. Now, given the statements that Xbox One X will be running (PCARS 2) at a sub-4K resolution and dropping under 60 FPS, this would more point to the Xbox One X being closer to 50% of a GTX 1070 than its equivalent.

My post was directly against tormented. Something stalling the GPU with 51 fps result.

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Another example with dips below 60 fps and it's missing 16.6 ms frame time target with GPU usage less than 100 percent.

16.6 ms = 60 fps.

Higher than 16.6 ms = less than 60 fps.

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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Ron is still perturbed that PC > all.

My primary gaming PC.

Nice. The chart king even knows PC is were its at.

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#155 kingtito
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@leonkennedy97 said:

@BlackShirt20: But they still have nothing that touches GoW, Horizon or UC4 :/

You forgot to add IMO....

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#156 leonkennedy97
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@kingtito: Err no its pretty much common fact at this point. MS will have the superior hardware, they also have the most money. There is no excuse for them not to put out an amazing looking exclusive that pushes the superior hardware. It for whatever reason isn't happening though.

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@leonkennedy97 said:

@kingtito: Err no its pretty much common fact at this point. MS will have the superior hardware, they also have the most money. There is no excuse for them not to put out an amazing looking exclusive that pushes the superior hardware. It for whatever reason isn't happening though.

Are you saying nothing touches those games as far as graphics or as far as how good they are? GoW should be removed from that list in either case.

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#158  Edited By leonkennedy97
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@kingtito: GoW is one of the best looking games period. You disputing that is laughable. In terms of its gameplay ive yet to play it but the series has an extremely high pedigree.

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#159 kingtito
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@leonkennedy97 said:

@kingtito: GoW is one of the best looking games period. You disputing that is laughable. In terms of its gameplay ive yet to play it but the series has an extremely high pedigree.

You talking about old school GoW or the upcoming NOT released game? Games that AREN'T released and are NOT a final product should NEVER be counted. I hope you're not talking about the PS3 GoW cause I've never been impressed with any of them.

^^^^ IMO....corrected you again.

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@kingtito: Im talking about the new one. Let me know whem MS has anything that approaches that. GoW3 looked amazing for its time but obviously its going to lag behind current gen titles. Im guessing you hate action adventure games if you weren't impressed.

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#161  Edited By kingtito
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@leonkennedy97 said:

@kingtito: Im talking about the new one. Let me know whem MS has anything that approaches that. GoW3 looked amazing for its time but obviously its going to lag behind current gen titles. Im guessing you hate action adventure games if you weren't impressed.

It hasn't released but Forza 7 shits all over it. Try waiting for the game to come out since Sony is known for downgrading graphics prior to release. You've heard the saying "don't count your chickens before they've hatched". That pretty much goes for any Sony game that hasn't launched.

I don't like hack and slash games though I did enjoy Ryse but for the most part I don't. I did try and play GoW but got bored rather quickly. It's not my cup of tea.

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#162  Edited By leonkennedy97
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@kingtito: lmao Forza? LOL a racing game? Horizon, Infamous SS, UC4 all look as good or better then original gameplay reveals and all are out and finished and utterly shit on anything the Bone has to offer. Fucking crackdown was announced before horizon sill isn't out yet and looks about 5 years behind. You are a blind tool.

Lol at not liking hack and Slash games but enjoying Ryse!

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@kingtito: lmao Forza? LOL a racing game? Horizon, Infamous SS, UC4 all look as good or better then original gameplay reveals and all are out and finished and utterly shit on anything the Bone has to offer. Fucking crackdown was announced before horizon sill isn't out yet and looks about 5 years behind. You are a blind tool.

Lol at not liking hack and Slash games but enjoying Ryse!

As if being a racing game detracts from it's beauty. I've played plenty of racing games that are demanding on gaming rigs.

Now I know you're delusional. UC4 was downgraded, Infamous is a baron wasteland and well I can't speak on Horizon since I haven't played it yet.

^^^IMO...this is becoming a habit

Some games take a while to develop but you cows should know that with TLG taking 10 years and all. You're saying it looks 5 years behind because of it's art style? Do I need to insert "IMO" again?

Which is why I said "although". I'm not into hack N slash games and I never have been. It's not like I haven't played or tried to play GoW. Unlike most cows, I only speak on games I've played. Enjoyed Ryse, which btw is one of the best looking games period, but wasn't a fan of GoW. It's called an opinion, you should try forming your own.

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@kingtito: Racing games take shit tons of shortcuts in the environment and also don't render human models. Its not that they are not impressive its just you made a foolish comparison. UC4 was not downgraded from its "GAMEPLAY" reveal. Its visuals matched the prerendered footage it just failed to hit 60fps. But if you remember the actual gameplay reveal UC4 looked better when finished. That's a simple fact.

And no crackdown doesn't look behind because if its artsyle. It looks behind due to low poly models and low poly environmental detail. It's not an opinion its a fact. They are technically less advanced models its as simple as that. Cell shaded games can look outstanding its just amazing how embarrassingly low poly the character models are considering the hardware its on.

And I have a opinion of my own I just found yours a bit ironic. Your not a fan of hack and slash but you like Ryse. Its about the equivalent of me saying I hate rock music but love Nickleback.

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@Zero_epyon: That test is also using a much better CPU, no?

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#166 Zero_epyon
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@Chutebox: off the top of my head, I'm not sure what the CPU specs are. But I know the gpu has extra compute units and faster memory bandwidth.

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#167  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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@Zero_epyon said:

@Chutebox: off the top of my head, I'm not sure what the CPU specs are. But I know the gpu has extra compute units and faster memory bandwidth.

Look like it's on that screenshot you posted. Unless I'm reading incorrectly.

Edit: Sorry, the one Ron posted. An i7.

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@Chutebox: oh sorry I forgot which thread I was in. Lol. The test Ron put up was a core I7. The one I put up with the 1080 ti doesn't specify the CPU but you can bet it's not a jaguar.

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@leonkennedy97 said:

@kingtito: Racing games take shit tons of shortcuts in the environment and also don't render human models. Its not that they are not impressive its just you made a foolish comparison. UC4 was not downgraded from its "GAMEPLAY" reveal. Its visuals matched the prerendered footage it just failed to hit 60fps. But if you remember the actual gameplay reveal UC4 looked better when finished. That's a simple fact.

And no crackdown doesn't look behind because if its artsyle. It looks behind due to low poly models and low poly environmental detail. It's not an opinion its a fact. They are technically less advanced models its as simple as that. Cell shaded games can look outstanding its just amazing how embarrassingly low poly the character models are considering the hardware its on.

And I have a opinion of my own I just found yours a bit ironic. Your not a fan of hack and slash but you like Ryse. Its about the equivalent of me saying I hate rock music but love Nickleback.

You said there was nothing on the X1 that compared...I proved you wrong. Don't go trying to move the goalpost now

Sure it was. You're blind if you didn't see it besides I'm not saying it doesn't look good.

Sorry dude but I don't think so, IMO. I really wasn't impressed with the graphics as much as cows were. I enjoyed the game a lot but wasn't wowed but the visuals.

I really think you need to look up the definitions and differences between opinion and fact.
example: FACT - UC4 scored a 10 on gamespot
Opinion - It's the best looking game on the planet

Once again we differ on that opinion. I didn't see low poly count just a different art style. I mean until the game comes out and is dissected on DF we'll just have to wait. Word to the wise though, you shouldn't judge anything until the final product has released.

You realize you can like a particular game and still not be a fan of the genre right? I don't like country music but I do like a song or two. Does that make a fan of country music? It's called opinions and they very for everyone. Yours seems to fall inline with the rest of the cows on this site even if you're not a cow. They seem to think only their opinion is the right one and everyone else is wrong.

Anyway, enjoy your weekend amigo.

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#170  Edited By ronvalencia
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@phantomfire335 said:

So not 4k

Or 60 fps

And probably not ultra settings

So nothing really surprising...

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/201706/project_cars_2_belooft_native_4k_op_xbox_one_x_playstation_4_pro_nog_onzeker/

Yes, Project CARS 2 wil run 4K/60 natively on Xbox One X. [...] We are not ready to define the exact resolution on PlayStation 4 Pro yet.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859876

Yup, this was a misquote. We're running sub 60 FPS at 4K and we'll probably always be unless we drop livetrack and a host of other things... We'll probably upscale from something very reasonable

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859906

We don't like the term 'locked'. It would put us in first party territory where chest beating is more important than a great experience. We'll be 60 most of the time in normal racing and we'll push the consoles to and beyond their limits for more interesting racing. Even if that means dropping a few frames.

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#172 ronvalencia
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@kuu2 said:

@ronvalencia: So another 4k/60fps game for The One X.

It's unfinished 4K with "most of the time" 60fps game for X1X. They have a few more months to polish it.

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#173 TrumpTowerLR
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No body gives a crap about project cars, its just a cheap budget driving simulation.

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#174 ronvalencia
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@trumptowerlr said:

No body gives a crap about project cars, its just a cheap budget driving simulation.

This is system war.

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#175 PinkAnimal
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@kuu2: another fauxK you mean

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#176  Edited By ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@kuu2: another fauxK you mean

It's better than PS4 Pro's version.

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#177  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@ronvalencia: we haven't seen it yet, and most certainly not $100 better.

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#178 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@ronvalencia: we haven't seen it yet, and most certainly not $100 better.

We?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10864/discrete-desktop-gpu-market-trends-q3-2016/4

NVIDIA itself attributes its success in the third quarter to sales of its Pascal-based products — the GeForce GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 as well as their mobile brethren

....

For the three-quarters so far in 2016, NVIDIA has sold approximately 25 million of desktop discrete GPUs.

There's a large market for GTX 1060/1070/1080 level GPUs.

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#179 PinkAnimal
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@ronvalencia: now I think your language parsing module failed there. You didn't understand the statement and answered with irrelevant crap. Try again or use a better parser.

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#180 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@ronvalencia: now I think your language parsing module failed there. You didn't understand the statement and answered with irrelevant crap. Try again or use a better parser.

The only irrelevant crap is your post. What works for PC market, work for XBox.

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#181  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@ronvalencia: no botvalencia, the X1X is not a GTX1070. You need to update your database

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#182 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@ronvalencia: no botvalencia, the X1X is not a GTX1070. You need to update your database

no botpinkanimal, the X1X has GTX1070 class GPU. You need to update your database

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58011/ark-dev-xbox-one-pc-gtx-1070-16gb-ram/index.html

As for the comparisons between the PC and Xbox One X, he said: "If you think about it, it's kind of equivalent to a GTX 1070 maybe and the Xbox One X actually has 12GB of GDDR5 memory. It's kind of like having a pretty high-end PC minus a lot of overhead due to the operating system on PC. So I would say it's equivalent to a 16GB 1070 PC, and that's a pretty good deal for $499".

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#183  Edited By RyviusARC
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You can quote me that the Xbox One X is around the performance of a 1060 maybe a little better.

You will see this when comparisons come out. Right now there are no games out but once we get enough of them for direct comparisons and we know the settings they run at on consoles you will find it falling behind a 1070 like some people here tout and performing more in line with a 1060 6GB OC.

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#184  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@ronvalencia: "the X1X has GTX1070 class GPU"

Now you went full BSOD there, never go full BSOD.

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#185  Edited By ronvalencia
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@RyviusARC said:

You can quote me that the Xbox One X is around the performance of a 1060 maybe a little better.

You will see this when comparisons come out. Right now there are no games out but once we get enough of them for direct comparisons and we know the settings they run at on consoles you will find it falling behind a 1070 like some people here tout and performing more in line with a 1060 6GB OC.

At 4K, 1060 6GB has both memory bandwidth and memory storage bottlenecks.

GTX 1060 has 1536 KB of L2 cache.

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Yet another X1X "true 4k" backfire thread. You guys really gotta stop this self-ownage if you mean to have any dignity left.

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#187  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@RyviusARC: yep, but botvalencia has a firewall against common sense and facts installed on its brain/cpu.

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#188 ronvalencia
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Yet another X1X "true 4k" backfire thread. You guys really gotta stop this self-ownage if you mean to have any dignity left.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/201706/project_cars_2_belooft_native_4k_op_xbox_one_x_playstation_4_pro_nog_onzeker/

Yes, Project CARS 2 wil run 4K/60 natively on Xbox One X. [...] We are not ready to define the exact resolution on PlayStation 4 Pro yet.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859876

Yup, this was a misquote. We're running sub 60 FPS at 4K and we'll probably always be unless we drop livetrack and a host of other things... We'll probably upscale from something very reasonable

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859906

We don't like the term 'locked'. It would put us in first party territory where chest beating is more important than a great experience. We'll be 60 most of the time in normal racing and we'll push the consoles to and beyond their limits for more interesting racing. Even if that means dropping a few frames.

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#189 PinkAnimal
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@reduc_ab_: botvalencia is in full loop meltdown mode, its core chip is alarmingly close to 150 degrees Celsius!

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#190 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@RyviusARC: yep, but botvalencia has a firewall against common sense and facts installed on its brain/cpu.

You haven't posted any facts and common sense.

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#191 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@reduc_ab_: botvalencia is in full loop meltdown mode, its core chip is alarmingly close to 150 degrees Celsius!

botpinkanimalcow is in full loop meltdown mode, its core chip is alarmingly close to 302 degrees Fahrenheit!

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#192  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@ronvalencia: I think it's cute that you're testing your learning and creativity modules. Very rudimentary but cute nevertheless. Our resident bot is growing.

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#193 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@ronvalencia: I think it's cute that you're testing your learning and creativity modules. Very rudimentary but cute nevertheless. Our resident bot is growing.

I think it's cute that you're testing your learning and creativity modules. Very rudimentary but cute nevertheless. Our resident pinkanimalbot is growing.

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#194 PinkAnimal
Member since 2017 • 2380 Posts

@ronvalencia: hmm that one was pretty lame though. Turing is probably turning on his grave

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#195 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:

@ronvalencia: hmm that one was pretty lame though. Turing is probably turning on his grave

@pinkanimal: hmm that one was pretty lame though. Turing is probably turning on his grave.

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#196  Edited By leonkennedy97
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@kingtito: How did you prove me wrong? Forza is a good looking racing game. There is tons of good looking racing games. The closest the Bone has that compares with something to GoW or UC4 ironically is Ryse. The sad thing is nothing visually has surpassed that on the X1X and the only game in the same league on the system is Gears of War 4.

And as far as the gameplay reveal of UC4 it wasn't downgraded. And its pushing technically more advanced visuals then anything we seen on the X1. You say my view on crackdown is just an opinion? Well it seems to be a pretty popular opionion. Even previews of the game have talked about how visually unimpressive it is. Does that not annoy you? A big budget 1st party game on the most powerful console and people talk about how unimpressive it looks?

Regardless i respect opinions and i think you mistake my intentions. I own a Xbox one and i will buy a X1X ( despite what fanboys say it is a nice piece of hardware especially for the price). I just call things how i see it. Sony has fucked up on backwards compatibility and not allowing crossplay while MS has fucked up on investing in games and develooers that can push their hardware. Im just calling out the companies on their weakness in hopes that maybe they will improve.

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#197 Douevenlift_bro
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What an embarrassing thread for lems. Hurrah! one more game MIGHT run at 4K, take it cows and hermits! we are more powerful than teh 1070!!!

buffoons hahaha

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#198 Douevenlift_bro
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@kuu2 said:

Wow!!!!!!!!

Another 3rd party game that is coming in at 4k/60fps. Not only that but the One X has comparable performance to the 1070 again.

I hear a stampede of angry Hermits and Cows coming.

The One X is a beast!

The console has not even launched yet and we are getting this kind of news and performance.

This post didnt age well LMAO

What a gullible twit

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#199 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Yet another X1X "true 4k" backfire thread. You guys really gotta stop this self-ownage if you mean to have any dignity left.

Dignity??? you can't talk about dignity when you're the only one left who posts VR threads, talk about embarrassing.

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#200 ronvalencia
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@Douevenlift_bro said:

What an embarrassing thread for lems. Hurrah! one more game MIGHT run at 4K, take it cows and hermits! we are more powerful than teh 1070!!!

buffoons hahaha

The only buffoon is you. ARC Survival example doesn't have 4K resolution while X1X still rivals GTX 1070 results.