XBOX Series X/S are the only consoles to fully support RDNA2

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#1 regnaston
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https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/10/28/a-closer-look-at-how-xbox-series-xs-integrates-full-amd-rdna-2-architecture/

hmmm Interesting

With the upcoming launch of the Xbox Series X|S on November 10, together we are ushering in the next generation of gaming delivering a level of power, performance and compatibility never before seen in console gaming, powered by AMD’s latest “Zen 2” and RDNA 2 architectures. Xbox Series X|S are the only next-generation consoles with full hardware support for all the RDNA 2 capabilities AMD showcased today.

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I need to see what’s missing on the PS5 side. But this was the last rumor we were waiting to be verified. The Series X seems to have quite the advantage over the PS5 hardware wise. Well except for the controller. The Dualsense has cynics like Jeff Gerstmann excited.

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#3 Bluestars
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the worlds most powerful console

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#5 regnaston
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now we have to determine whether the PS5 is RDNA 1.25, RDNA 1.5 or RDNA 1.75 😉

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#8 regnaston
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@fedor: true AMD makes money either way... they get rid of their old stock with the PS5 and get to sell new RDNA 2 stuff with the Series X/S .. it is a win/win for them 😉

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#10 2mrw
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Xss supports RDNA 2

What a joke?!

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#11 Fedor
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@regnaston: LMAO! I believe you are correct, sir.

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#12 Fedor
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Calling it now, XSX has the infinity cache and PS5 doesn't.

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#14 Fedor
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@girlusocrazy said:

@fedor: If it did the Series S would be doing a lot better with its low RAM bandwidth

Hard to tell because the XSS is cut down in several areas.

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#15 Nonstop-Madness  Online
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@girlusocrazy said:

That's because full RDNA2 includes memory management and has other parts of the spec where PS5 breaks from that and uses a custom solution. It could never be considered RDNA2 complete if it doesn't implement the RDNA2 as-is. This is MS saying "it's toasted"

Bingo.

Sony replaced parts of the RDNA2 architecture for their own custom solutions.

Also, I don't think what MS is saying is actually true considering the XS X|S doesn't have Infinity Cache either afaik.

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@fedor said:

hahaha!!

yup that's true..

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#17 Sagemode87
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Man, Cernys road to PS5 has to be the most misunderstood video of all time. RDNA2 isn't a measure of power, it's simply a feature set. Sony REMOVED WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT and put custom features they WANTED for PS5. Anyone that didn't understand Cerny should watch this video. https://youtu.be/OUSrMTDCc3Y

I trust what he says over fangirls.

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#18 LetsHaveFun
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@fedor said:

Calling it now, XSX has the infinity cache and PS5 doesn't.

wouldn't it make more sense for PS5 to have it since it has lower memory speed??

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@fedor said:

Calling it now, XSX has the infinity cache and PS5 doesn't.

I have not been informed about anything like Infinity cache for the Series X|S. The most likely reason for its absence is that these consoles are using unified RAM, unlike PC which has two distinct RAM pools.

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#20 Howmakewood
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@Pedro said:
@fedor said:

Calling it now, XSX has the infinity cache and PS5 doesn't.

I have not been informed about anything like Infinity cache for the Series X|S. The most likely reason for its absence is that these consoles are using unified RAM, unlike PC which has two distinct RAM pools.

Infinity Cache makes no sense on console APU, so yea

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#21  Edited By Sagemode87
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@bluestars: Most irrelevant console. When will it show this supposed power advantage. COD 4K60 for both, Watchdogs 4K30 for both, Valhalla 4k60 for both. Sit down already. PS4 showed its difference day one, cross gen titles included.

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#22  Edited By Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

@bluestars: Most irrelevant console. When will it show this supposed power advantage. COD 4K60 for both, Watchdogs 4K30 for both, Valhalla 4k60 for both. Sit down already.

You still in grief with the PS5 RDNA 1.5 I see.

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#23 regnaston
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@Sagemode87 said:

Man, Cernys road to PS5 has to be the most misunderstood video of all time. RDNA2 isn't a measure of power, it's simply a feature set. Sony REMOVED WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT and put custom features they WANTED for PS5. Anyone that didn't understand Cerny should watch this video. https://youtu.be/OUSrMTDCc3Y

I trust what he says over fangirls.

you expect us to watch a 47 minute video to prove your point???? How about summarize what he said

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#24  Edited By Sagemode87
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@Pedro: https://youtu.be/OUSrMTDCc3Y

Man, you guys are setting yourselves up 😂

Will gladly let you crash and burn. Have your fun.

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#25 Pedro
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@Sagemode87: So, you are still undergoing grief. 😂

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#26  Edited By Sagemode87
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@regnaston: Why? When it doesn't fit your narrative, you'll call him unreliable and or a Sony shill. Will just say that Sony customized their feature set for a reason. Your reaction to a 47 minute video is why you're ignorant, can't do research so just stick to marketing words.

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#27 Fedor
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@Sagemode87 said:

@Pedro: https://youtu.be/OUSrMTDCc3Y

Man, you guys are setting yourselves up 😂

Will gladly let you crash and burn. Have your fun.

So you believe the nonsense a disgraced YouTuber says but he's the one setting himself up? LOL!

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#28 regnaston
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@Sagemode87: No because I don't have time to watch a 47 minute video. If you care to provide some time stamps for the items you are claiming then I will watch those snippets. If you want to prove YOUR point then you do the work

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RedGaminTech ahah holly hell that's precious. Just wait until RDNA 3 is revealed!

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@Sagemode87: any benchmarks to prove those claims. Then we will see difference

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Very interesting so Sony have custom RDNA features but not full RDNA 2.

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#32 Sagemode87
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@ghost_of_phobos: will believe him over your fanboy ass. Lems are still calling PS5 9tf. Convenient time to be all about the facts.

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#33 Howmakewood
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You guys should most likely not read too much in to this: 1) marketing 2) some of this stuff is obviously tied to DirectX, which Sony obviously doesnt use thus has their own custom stuff etc.

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#34 Sagemode87
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@fedor: got anything showing he's disgraced? Lems are the ones making claims. All I said was Sony has a custom feature set that we don't fully know yet...

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#35  Edited By regnaston
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This quote from the link in the 1st post could also help explain why there has not been as much game play for the XSX/S as the DEV Kit hardware was not ready as soon as the PS5 DEV kits

In our quest to put gamers and developers first we chose to wait for the most advanced technology from our partners at AMD before finalizing our architecture.

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#36  Edited By Fedor
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@Sagemode87 said:

@fedor: got anything showing he's disgraced?Lems are the ones making claims. All I said was Sony has a custom feature set that we don't fully know yet...

Yeah, the fact that him and MLID are both laughing stocks after how wrong they've been several times. Still waiting for those RDNA 3 features and all those Nvidia stock predictions to come true lol. Where's the 16GB of HBM2 on the 6900XT also? Hey, remember when they faked a Big Navi spec screenshot then AMD employees called them out on Twitter? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Oh and you're the one who has been making claims, claims you base completely on the words of pleb clickbait youtubers. Have fun with that, bud.

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@girlusocrazy: They're both still custom GPUs.

Realistically they both know what they're doing. None of us should be concerned about such things or even think about it. I think they'll all be great consoles.

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#38 Sagemode87
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Anyways this attempt at ownage is awful as Series S has this and is way behind the 4K consoles. Shows you how big a deal this is.

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@Sagemode87: That youtuber said ps5 was 14.5 TFlops.... Redtechgaming...

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@the6millionlies: have any links? Those were the rumors at the time. Youtubers can only tell the info that's out there. Him explaining what fanboys asses don't understand =/=commenting on rumors in the industry.

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#41 regnaston
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@the6millionlies said:

@Sagemode87: That youtuber said ps5 was 14.5 TFlops.... Redtechgaming...

Did he lol great source then :D

His voice freaks me out to be honest.. it is a normal range then he goes to sounding like Mr. Bean

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#42 The6millionLies
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@regnaston: https://youtu.be/ywlZOoh8dGk they all used the rumor card to later don't look like liars.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@the6millionlies: have any links? Those were the rumors at the time. Youtubers can only tell the info that's out there. Him explaining what fanboys asses don't understand =/=commenting on rumors in the industry.

Meanwhile there are dozens of reputable techtubers who don't need the crutch of pretending they have super special secret sources to get views. They also don't need to backtrack hard when proven to once again be wrong.

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Pointless thread, we knew a long time ago that Sony did some of own stuff.

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#45  Edited By Bluestars
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@Sagemode87:

if you don’t understand the difference between 4k60 high/ultra and 4k60 low medium then id be wasting my time mentioning better ray tracing

but i’ll let digital foundry experts explain it to you

sit your ass down you 9.2 tinyflop you

hah

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#46 BlackShirt20
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@Sagemode87: Those clowns are a joke. They have made up a bunch of ridiculous rumors. They pushed rumor after rumor regarding PS5. Paul was adamant according to his “sources” the PS5 was indeed more powerful than Xbox. He lied about big Navi. Has deleted multiple videos where he was wrong and pushed hard that his “sources” were under NDA but that the PS5 has RDNA 3 features. The guy is a clown and his channel only took off because of the next generation consoles and since then the channel has been dying now that people know he is a fraud.

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this is so stupid the both take out crap they don't need because it only benefits the pc.

so now less features that is not needed = more power?

you guys are so bad at trolling.

funny how not one series x game comes close to demon souls or ratchet and clank or miles but yet everyone praises teraflops and stupid rdna 2 instead. haha we have rdna 2 and more teraflops instead of saying haha we have new games to play.

xbox players love to play specs instead of actual games and knock on ps5 exclusives. instead there using gear 5 update as a series x launch title or old forza game and xbox added them to the launch list. that's like sony adding god of war update as a launch title.

so were are these rdna 2 full features in the series x games?

yet digital foundry most impressed next gen games are from sony console but yet you xbox guys will ignore that and say omg look how good ark looks on the series x. look how good last gen game looks on the series x.

who needs new games when we can play last gen games at 4k/60.

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#48 rzxv04
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GG MS. WP WP.

Cancel all your PS5 pre-orders now. Game over. Gen has ended.

Don't forget to sell all your Sony shares for now.

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Whatever Sony have it really doesn't matter as Sony first party will get the best out of the system and probably have the best looking games. RDNA 1.5 or 2.

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#50  Edited By ButDuuude
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Sony didn’t just incorporate RDNA 2, it helped build it.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rdna-2-sony-ps5-gpu-pc

@robert_sparkes: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/rdna-2