XBOX Series X/S are the only consoles to fully support RDNA2

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#201  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy said:
@phlop_spencer said:
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@phlop_spencer: You literally don't know how to read , it says it never drops to 1080p like it does on xbox one X... And when it drops is only 20% less of 4K resolution.

Lol I dont know how to read?? Read my quote again. is every lem just this braindead?

”interestingly, the lower bounds is still 1080p - just as it was on Xbox One X - but it's extremely uncommon for resolution to hit this level.“

also:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/df-gears-5-upgrades-for-xbox-series-x-tested-enhanced-graphics-120hz-lower-latency-more.1574941/page-5#lg=_xfUid-2-1604503598&slide=0

Oh, I see, yeah, my mistake. Looking back at the tests, it is merely 'on par' - not faster. Average frame-rate on Ultra test using 2080 = 44.7fps. The Series X using Ultra produced 43.8fps (at fixed 4K native). So, yes, 2080 is slightly faster there.

Full fixed 4k native producing the same fps as 2080. A card that costs as much if not more than the full console.

Without being built to use the features in the console.

What GPU do you have?

Still better than the PS5 can do.

A little insecure are we?

what does it matter what gpu I have, or what console I will own? It looks like your team is kicking off next gen with old games not being able to keep up with promises. Man that’s tough to swallow.

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#202 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@phlop_spencer said:
@the6millionlies said:

@phlop_spencer: You literally don't know how to read , it says it never drops to 1080p like it does on xbox one X... And when it drops is only 20% less of 4K resolution.

Lol I dont know how to read?? Read my quote again. is every lem just this braindead?

”interestingly, the lower bounds is still 1080p - just as it was on Xbox One X - but it's extremely uncommon for resolution to hit this level.“

also:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/df-gears-5-upgrades-for-xbox-series-x-tested-enhanced-graphics-120hz-lower-latency-more.1574941/page-5#lg=_xfUid-2-1604503598&slide=0

Oh, I see, yeah, my mistake. Looking back at the tests, it is merely 'on par' - not faster. Average frame-rate on Ultra test using 2080 = 44.7fps. The Series X using Ultra produced 43.8fps (at fixed 4K native). So, yes, 2080 is slightly faster there.

Full fixed 4k native producing the same fps as 2080. A card that costs as much if not more than the full console.

Without being built to use the features in the console.

What GPU do you have?

Still better than the PS5 can do.

A little insecure are we?

what does it matter what gpu I have, or what console I will own? It looks like your team is kicking off next gen with old games not being able to keep up with promises. Man that’s tough to swallow.

I'm insecure yet you cant simply say what GPU you have.

Not really as its still the most powerful console you can get.

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#203  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy: i have a gtx1080 in my laptop. Again, what does my gpu have to do with gears of war 5 being a dynamic 4k game with it hitting 1080p sometimes on the series x?

Edit: I see you’re still upset

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#204 Epak_
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Doesn't seem to do much for the Series S though.

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#205 Bluestars
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@Epak_:

best wait till xbox studios games built especially from the ground up for next gen before thinking what other devs do is the consoles benchmark

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#206 Epak_
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@bluestars said:

@Epak_:

best wait till xbox studios games built especially from the ground up for next gen before thinking what other devs do is the consoles benchmark

True, they might squeeze something more worthy out of it, not holding my breath though.

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#207 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: i have a gtx1080 in my laptop. Again, what does my gpu have to do with gears of war 5 being a dynamic 4k game with it hitting 1080p sometimes on the series x?

Edit: I see you’re still upset

The fact you provided one to prove you are not insecure made me laugh a little, the fact you think I'm insecure about anything to do with gaming made me laugh a lot. There are far more important things to be insecure about.

70-80fps on a 1080 on a laptop at full ultra setting at 1440p, I'd like you to provide evidence of that because benchmarks dont back that up.

The most reliable benchmark is 65fps average at best.

The 2080 and series X run it a 44fps at native 4k.

"This might have been enough on its own, but the developers took the time to implement some new features not previously available on PC."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-gears-5-xbox-series-x-upgrade-tested

Taking this into consideration the series X is better than a 2080 on a game that wasn't developed to use the extra features of the series X. Which for the record is way better than your 1080.

At a price that is similar for a full console.

That is not bad at all.

If you expected more then the issue is about managing expectations. Which I don't have a problem with, do you?

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#208 Bluestars
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@Epak_:

personally i’ll be getting the high end consoles,X first then ps5 when generations kicks in...but imo MS should keep the S as a 1080-60-ultra,no RT but with the faster SSD and quick resume n stuff

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#209 Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy said:
@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: i have a gtx1080 in my laptop. Again, what does my gpu have to do with gears of war 5 being a dynamic 4k game with it hitting 1080p sometimes on the series x?

Edit: I see you’re still upset

The fact you provided one to prove you are not insecure made me laugh a little, the fact you think I'm insecure about anything to do with gaming made me laugh a lot. There are far more important things to be insecure about.

70-80fps on a 1080 on a laptop at full ultra setting at 1440p, I'd like you to provide evidence of that because benchmarks dont back that up.

The most reliable benchmark is 65fps average at best.

The 2080 and series X run it a 44fps at native 4k.

"This might have been enough on its own, but the developers took the time to implement some new features not previously available on PC."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-gears-5-xbox-series-x-upgrade-tested

Taking this into consideration the series X is better than a 2080 on a game that wasn't developed to use the extra features of the series X. Which for the record is way better than your 1080.

At a price that is similar for a full console.

That is not bad at all.

If you expected more then the issue is about managing expectations. Which I don't have a problem with, do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrUeEsctMEo

there you go, mid 70's FPS gtx 1080. I'm glad you concede that the new xbox is dynamic 4k while hitting 1080p on an old game lol.

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#210 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: i have a gtx1080 in my laptop. Again, what does my gpu have to do with gears of war 5 being a dynamic 4k game with it hitting 1080p sometimes on the series x?

Edit: I see you’re still upset

The fact you provided one to prove you are not insecure made me laugh a little, the fact you think I'm insecure about anything to do with gaming made me laugh a lot. There are far more important things to be insecure about.

70-80fps on a 1080 on a laptop at full ultra setting at 1440p, I'd like you to provide evidence of that because benchmarks dont back that up.

The most reliable benchmark is 65fps average at best.

The 2080 and series X run it a 44fps at native 4k.

"This might have been enough on its own, but the developers took the time to implement some new features not previously available on PC."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-gears-5-xbox-series-x-upgrade-tested

Taking this into consideration the series X is better than a 2080 on a game that wasn't developed to use the extra features of the series X. Which for the record is way better than your 1080.

At a price that is similar for a full console.

That is not bad at all.

If you expected more then the issue is about managing expectations. Which I don't have a problem with, do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrUeEsctMEo

there you go, mid 70's FPS gtx 1080. I'm glad you concede that the new xbox is dynamic 4k while hitting 1080p on an old game lol.

I'm glad you concede it compares to a 2080 for similar money and the PS5 is worse.

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#211 Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy: ahahaha sure buddy. Full RDNA 2.0 capable console running gears 5 at dynamic 4k while hitting 1080p just to get 60fps lolololol. An old game no less!

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#212 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: ahahaha sure buddy. Full RDNA 2.0 capable console running gears 5 at dynamic 4k while hitting 1080p just to get 60fps lolololol. An old game no less!

If we have agreed why are you continuing?

Dynamic 4k on this game but 2080 equivalent performance at least at similar price, while always being better than PS5

sounds good to me.

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#213 Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy: has gears 5 been tested on the PS5? If not, you’re just continuing to look like a clown.

I’m glad you agree that next gen Xbox has to scale down to 1080p to maintain 60fps on an old game. Thanks for confirming.

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#214 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: has gears 5 been tested on the PS5? If not, you’re just continuing to look like a clown.

I’m glad you agree that next gen Xbox has to scale down to 1080p to maintain 60fps on an old game. Thanks for confirming.

Resorting to name calling - nice

Games coming out on both consoles are Dynamic 4k on PS5 and native 4k on Series X combined with the obvious performance difference the evidence is there if you bother looking and accepting.

Unless you have something to demonstrate otherwise maybe its you who needs to manage expectation and dreams.

We had already conceded and therefor agreed. Just accept what is just like I have and lets move on.

Unless you want to continue with your name calling. In which case I've got work to do.

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#215 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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the series is the only next gen console to run games worse than last gen systems like ps4 pro its a 1080p system its last gen its trash

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#216  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy: ah I see so at first you misread what digital foundry concluded on your 6million alt, I corrected you, then you made it about my gpu which you did not believe hit 70 fps or more, which I corrected you again, and now have resorted to touting how powerful the series x is in comparison to the ps5.

Once again, thank you for your thorough display of deep insecurities about your console of choice. I find it even more hilarious that you guys have nothing new to play in a couple weeks other than old Xbox games. Thanks for the laughs, thanks for getting owned and congrats again to you for being able to play that extensive backwards compatible library on Xbox - seems thats all you will get for the foreseeable future.

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#217 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: ah I see so at first you misread what digital foundry concluded on your 6million alt, I corrected you, then you made it about my gpu which you did not believe hit 70 fps or more, which I corrected you again, and now have resorted to touting how powerful the series x is in comparison to the ps5.

Once again, thank you for your thorough display of deep insecurities about your console of choice. I find it even more hilarious that you guys have nothing new to play in a couple weeks other than old Xbox games. Thanks for the laughs, thanks for getting owned and congrats again to you for being able to play that extensive backwards compatible library on Xbox - seems thats all you will get for the foreseeable future.

6million alt? who/what are you referring too?

Thats where you are mistaken, I've pre-ordered a PS5, The launch window is crap for both consoles but I have a load of PS4 games I'd like to play. like I said I dont have any insecurities about plastic boxes.

Come back when there is a single game on PS5 running at 1800p at 60fps with Ray Tracing. In fact I'd buy it to play on my PS5 if I haven't already.

Thanks for the distraction but I really have work to do and deadlines to meet, so back to the real world.

Pleasure talking, well a laugh anyways.

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#218 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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@tdkmillsy: Quack always calls people Clowns. It's like his trademark.

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#219 Phlop_Spencer
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@tdkmillsy: I think enough damage has been done to you, no need to duck behind the ps5 now.

Funny enough I also have some big boy deadlines to meet. Nice to be able to multitask between roasting you and working.

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#220 Phlop_Spencer
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@ghost_of_phobos:

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#221 The6millionLies
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@tdkmillsy: He literally can't read the article and the video states that the game never drops to 1080 resolution on the Xbox series X but somehow he still claims that even when refuted... And since he is getting owned he plays the alt account card..

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@phlop_spencer: <3

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#223  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@the6millionlies said:

@tdkmillsy: He literally can't read the article and the video states that the game never drops to 1080 resolution on the Xbox series X but somehow he still claims that even when refuted... And since he is getting owned he plays the alt account card..

Lol. Please quote in the article where DF says series x never drops to 1080p? Have fun!

“Interestingly, the lower bounds is still 1080p - just as it was on Xbox One X - but it's extremely uncommon for resolution to hit this level. By comparison, Xbox One X could drop to near 1080p much more often.“

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#224  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:
@the6millionlies said:

@tdkmillsy: He literally can't read the article and the video states that the game never drops to 1080 resolution on the Xbox series X but somehow he still claims that even when refuted... And since he is getting owned he plays the alt account card..

Lol. Please quote in the article where DF says series x never drops to 1080p? Have fun!

“Interestingly, the lower bounds is still 1080p - just as it was on Xbox One X - but it's extremely uncommon for resolution to hit this level. By comparison, Xbox One X could drop to near 1080p much more often.“

Whats more LOL is it still performs at higher resolutions than any PS5 game running ray tracing and has a 120fps option, something which is also lacking on PS5 games.

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@tdkmillsy: I see you’re still having a meltdown. Can you please point to me where gears 5 is confirmed as having Ray tracing?

You’re really letting your insecurities fly in this thread arent you lol

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#226 BlackShirt20
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It’s weird to see cows still having meltdowns and continually damage control weaker and inferior hardware of the PS5. Now that we know PS5 is RDNA 1 they have been losing there minds.

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#227 tdkmillsy
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@phlop_spencer said:

@tdkmillsy: I see you’re still having a meltdown. Can you please point to me where gears 5 is confirmed as having Ray tracing?

You’re really letting your insecurities fly in this thread arent you lol

If you want to see Gears 5 running at 4k 60fps on series x have a look at this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZibJazWTo

Where DF looked at a version before additional improvements above ultra on PC where done, including ray tracing.

If you can find a video showing gears 5 running on desktop based gtx 1080 (you know instead of actually using the game running on your laptop) you can certainly find the information about ray tracing.

While your searching, I'm still waiting for the games running at 120fps or higher than 1800p at 60fps with any ray tracing on PS5. So why do you find some of them also. Never mind I'm too kind

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-08-01-all-confirmed-120fps-games-for-ps5-and-xbox-series-x

I'm impressed the PS5 got to 5.

Cant find anything on PS5 games with ray-tracing running higher than 1440p and even then its claims and no benchmarks. Maybe you can do better.

Sucks to be you, trying to defend your console of choice by trying to discredit another and failing miserably.

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#228  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Just found the reason PS5 uses RDNA 1:

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Sony were considering releasing the PS5 in 2019. So a lot of the hardware was finalised sometime ago.

Glad both didn't rush, because the system software is a lot better this time round on Xbox Series. While at release the system software was bare bones on Xbox One.

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#229 speedytimsi
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using RDNA in general is a joke itself.

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#230 tormentos
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@HalcyonScarlet:

RDNA 1 has no ray tracing, and can't hit 2.23GHZ thats a gain of RDNA2.

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#231 SecretPolice
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Poo cows. I almost, almost mind you, feel sorry for'em. lol :P

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#232 HalcyonScarlet
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@tormentos said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

RDNA 1 has no ray tracing, and can't hit 2.23GHZ thats a gain of RDNA2.

RDNA 1.5 then.

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#233 BlueEyedCasva
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I heard it still isn't fully RNDA 2 hmm

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#234 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: So it’s not full RDNA 2. It’s just RDNA 1 but with below average ray tracing and a giant cheap primitive heat sink to hit 2.2ghz?

That sucks. Sorry to hear that man. Just get a XSX. Advanced RDNA 2, super powerful GPU. Super fast SSD that loads just as fast as PS5 that Sony wasted money on. Much better CPU and RAM.

Plus you get all the best games. XSX has more games in development than the “competition “ and you get game pass! You won’t need to continue to have meltdowns and write crazy long retarded essays of you lying to yourself.

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#235 TLHBO
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Nobody cares because it has no games. Xbox hasn't had any games in a decade. It's irrelevant why is it even being discussed on a gaming forum?

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#236 tormentos
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

RDNA 1 has no ray tracing, and can't hit 2.23GHZ thats a gain of RDNA2.

RDNA 1.5 then.

That doesn't exist.

Please direct me for were AMD has a GPU call RDNA 1.5.

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@tormentos: So it’s not full RDNA 2. It’s just RDNA 1 but with below average ray tracing and a giant cheap primitive heat sink to hit 2.2ghz?

That sucks. Sorry to hear that man. Just get a XSX. Advanced RDNA 2, super powerful GPU. Super fast SSD that loads just as fast as PS5 that Sony wasted money on. Much better CPU and RAM.

Plus you get all the best games. XSX has more games in development than the “competition “ and you get game pass! You won’t need to continue to have meltdowns and write crazy long retarded essays of you lying to yourself.

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#237 HalcyonScarlet
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@tormentos said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

RDNA 1 has no ray tracing, and can't hit 2.23GHZ thats a gain of RDNA2.

RDNA 1.5 then.

That doesn't exist.

Please direct me for were AMD has a GPU call RDNA 1.5.

Custom RDNA 1.5, custom Radeon based on RDNA 1 with some RDNA 2 features? Whatever, you know what mean, I don't know what you want to call it. I've heard some describe it as "inbetween" somewhere.