Xbox was the best console last gen. right ?

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#52 campzor
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i dont think gamespot would let me use the amount of characters i need to show off ALL the ps2 games which made it the ultimate console
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#53 clone01
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

I'm sorry is the PC a console? And before you say this board includes the PC then why aren't you calling out the TC? I'm just going by his rules. Gamtrix

because you're the one who called the TC out on "ignoring" other systems

Nice try. But he ignored a console. THis thead is about consoles. I dond't ignore any consoles. If the PC counts it wins last gen and it wins this gen. Period. Stop damage controlling.

people aren't damage controlling, they are disproving your argument.
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#54 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="sora16perfect"] 2 years?it was only out for like 1 1/2 months in 06Gamtrix

Still doesnt change the fact that PS3 is the very opposite of consistent this gen let alone the most consistent

Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton.

And yet you made this comment:

Yes, best graphics, best hardware, most complete and varied high quality lineup, also most consistent console this generation.

If it was consistent it would of gotten a couple of AAAs at least in the first year..how many did it get?

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#55 Jcgamez
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="sora16perfect"] 2 years?it was only out for like 1 1/2 months in 06Gamtrix

Still doesnt change the fact that PS3 is the very opposite of consistent this gen let alone the most consistent

Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton.

I think you need to check the dictionary again
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#56 yanbuco2712
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No, I thought it was the worst of the bunch last gen. GC>PS2>DC>XBOX.

SecretPolice

I dunno since that flies in the face of SW logic since it seems this gen the console with the best grx is the superior console and the one to own.. or at least that's what it seems I read here from many who sorta look down on games and think their inferior b/c ITO, they aren't gfx kings.

I'm so confused. :P

So you think people saying that since PS3 has the best graphics on consoles means its the best console this gen is confusing and you don't try to defend 360's graphics in this thread, yet you said in another thread that 360 is on par with ps3 with RDR.

http://www.thephoenixpub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/confused.jpg

I know, confusing.

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#57 LegatoSkyheart
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It may have had the best Graphics but the PS2 was the system that had all of the Games.

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#58 NukePistols
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

If you ignore the PS2. Just like the 360 is the best console if you ignore the PS3 :P

ohthemanatee

the xbox was better then the PS2 in a lot things, like graphics, hardware reliability, online, shooters and WRPG's

In hardware reliability?....HELL NO!

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#59 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No, I thought it was the worst of the bunch last gen. GC>PS2>DC>XBOX.

yanbuco2712

I dunno since that flies in the face of SW logic since it seems this gen the console with the best grx is the superior console and the one to own.. or at least that's what it seems I read here from many who sorta look down on games and think their inferior b/c ITO, they aren't gfx kings.

I'm so confused. :P

So you think people saying that since PS3 has the best graphics on consoles means its the best console this gen is confusing and you don't try to defend 360's graphics in this thread, yet you said in another thread that 360 is on par with ps3 with RDR.

I know, confusing.

After reading what you wrote I'm even more confused - thanks for nothin. :P

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#60 yanbuco2712
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[QUOTE="yanbuco2712"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

So you think people saying that since PS3 has the best graphics on consoles means its the best console this gen is confusing and you don't try to defend 360's graphics in this thread, yet you said in another thread that 360 is on par with ps3 with RDR.

I know, confusing.

SecretPolice

After reading what you wrote I'm even more confused

Job well done then :P

But seriously I'll make it less confusing:

You say Xbox 1 had the best graphics but it didn't beat the PS2, and you imply the same thing will happen with PS3, and you don't try to defend the 360's graphics or say it has games that look as good as PS3's best looking games...

BUT you said in another thread that the 360 has graphics on par or even better than PS3 and you use RDR and Banjo Kazooie N&B as examples.

Hope thats not too confusing.

Here's the exact quote:

Pfft, Gears 2 & Banjo N&B was proof enough, Gears 3 just slams the door on any of that nonsense that 360 is inferior when it comes to..

Teh Graphics. :P

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#61 waltefmoney
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A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

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#62 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="sora16perfect"] 2 years?it was only out for like 1 1/2 months in 06Gamtrix

Still doesnt change the fact that PS3 is the very opposite of consistent this gen let alone the most consistent

Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton.

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

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#63 ohthemanatee
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In hardware reliability?....HELL NO!

NukePistols

hell yes, the PS2 was famous for breaking down, the xbox is famous for being built like a tank

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#64 FIipMode
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But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

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#65 NukePistols
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="NukePistols"]

In hardware reliability?....HELL NO!

hell yes, the PS2 was famous for breaking down, the xbox is famous for being built like a tank

I had both and know what I'm talking about.
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#66 LegatoSkyheart
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A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

waltefmoney

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

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#67 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="NukePistols"]

In hardware reliability?....HELL NO!

NukePistols

hell yes, the PS2 was famous for breaking down, the xbox is famous for being built like a tank

I had both and know what I'm talking about.

so one case equals all 25 million xboxes?

last time I checked the PS2 was famous for it's DRE's, so much so that sony was actually sued for it (hell, I owned 3 PS2's during it's lifetime, not counting the times I sent the same PS2 for repairs)

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#68 hd5870corei7
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Ps2 was by far the best console last gen, much more A,AA,AAA titles and its best games like FFX, MGS2, MGS3, Dark Cloud games, Gran Turismo games God of War 1 & 2 etc where among the very best games of the gen.

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#69 ohthemanatee
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Ps2 was by far the best console last gen, much more A,AA,AAA titles and its best games like FFX, MGS2, MGS3, Dark Cloud games, Gran Turismo games God of War 1 & 2 etc where among the very best games of the gen.

hd5870corei7
actually MGS 2 was on the xbox as well... not it matters, MGS 2 sucks imo
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#70 pppjjj
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I see what you did there TC.:P

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#71 NukePistols
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Ps2 was by far the best console last gen, much more A,AA,AAA titles and its best games like FFX, MGS2, MGS3, Dark Cloud games, Gran Turismo games God of War 1 & 2 etc where among the very best games of the gen.

actually MGS 2 was on the xbox as well... not it matters, MGS 2 sucks imo

You don't know what you're talking about. MGS 2: Substance was on the Xbox, not MGS2 or any other MGS game. Also, it had a lot of problems on the xbox.
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#72 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Still doesnt change the fact that PS3 is the very opposite of consistent this gen let alone the most consistent

ohthemanatee

Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton.

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent.
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#73 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Ps2 was by far the best console last gen, much more A,AA,AAA titles and its best games like FFX, MGS2, MGS3, Dark Cloud games, Gran Turismo games God of War 1 & 2 etc where among the very best games of the gen.

NukePistols

actually MGS 2 was on the xbox as well... not it matters, MGS 2 sucks imo

You don't know what you're talking about. MGS 2: Substance was on the Xbox, not MGS2 or any other MGS game. Also, it had a lot of problems on the xbox.

MGS 2: Substance is Metal gear solid 2 with some extras, how is that "now knowing what i'm talking about" :| ?

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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Hmm, is the PS3 the best b/c IYO it has the console games with the best grx this gen. ? :twisted:

DroidPhysX

Yes, best graphics, best hardware, most complete and varied high quality lineup, also most consistent console this generation.

How is it the most consistent? They went from no AAA titles for almost two years, lossing money on each PS3 sold for 3 years to a lot of AAA titles and making profit.....hardly consistent...

PS3 had a slow launch and not so good for the first year and a half but then MGS4, a godly AAAA game came and since MGS4's release sony stepped up their game and released AAA titles left,right and centre.
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#75 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No, I thought it was the worst of the bunch last gen. GC>PS2>DC>XBOX.

SecretPolice

I dunno since that flies in the face of SW logic since it seems this gen the console with the best grx is the superior console and the one to own.. or at least that's what it seems I read here from many who sorta look down on games and think their inferior b/c ITO, they aren't gfx kings.

I'm so confused. :P

Well I've never been one to agree with System Wars logic. :P

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#76 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton. Gamtrix

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent.

no it doesn't.

let's imagine for a moment that the PS3 hadn't received any AAA games until this year and that in 2010 it received 15 AAAE games

It would have the highest average, but it would not be consistent

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#77 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Yes, best graphics, best hardware, most complete and varied high quality lineup, also most consistent console this generation.hd5870corei7

How is it the most consistent? They went from no AAA titles for almost two years, lossing money on each PS3 sold for 3 years to a lot of AAA titles and making profit.....hardly consistent...

PS3 had a slow launch and not so good for the first year and a half but then MGS4, a godly AAAA game came and since MGS4's release sony stepped up their game and released AAA titles left,right and centre.

Thats what im saying. Until MGS4, the PS3 was hardly great. You cant say they were consistent starting from launch to now...

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#78 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

FIipMode
So the Wii is the best console? :?
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#79 mitu123
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No but it's underrated though, deserves more credit than people give it.

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#80 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

ohthemanatee

Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent.

no it doesn't.

let's imagine for a moment that the PS3 hadn't received any AAA games until this year and that in 2010 it received 15 AAAE games

It would have the highest average, but it would not be consistent

Well said, I admit defeat. But I still think the PS3 has been way more consistent thorughout this generation. MS has limited itself to releasing one or 2 worhtwhile exclusive near x-mas, Sony has released games in the beginning of the year, around the summer time and at x-mas consistently.
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#81 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

blue_hazy_basic

So the Wii is the best console? :?

On the spreadsheet yeah.

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#82 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

FIipMode

So the Wii is the best console? :?

On the spreadsheet yeah.

In my opinion its the PS3 :P

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#83 locopatho
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

LegatoSkyheart

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

PS2 won because of it's big massive throbbing... games library.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

So the Wii is the best console? :?

On the spreadsheet yeah.

Library>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exclusives for me, both in the SW metagame and in real life.
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#85 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

locopatho

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

PS2 won because of it's big massive throbbing... games library.

I know but the logic in this thread is so Ridiculous.

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#86 locopatho
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

FIipMode

So the Wii is the best console? :?

On the spreadsheet yeah.

It comes down to exclusives when the consoles both have the multiplats. The Wii doesn't.
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#87 SecretPolice
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But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

FIipMode

Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

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#88 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

LegatoSkyheart

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

2nd weakest.

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#89 SecretPolice
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I see what you did there TC.:P

pppjjj

Oh ohh, busted and I truly feel like...

:oops:

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#90 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] So the Wii is the best console? :?blue_hazy_basic

On the spreadsheet yeah.

Library>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exclusives for me, both in the SW metagame and in real life.

In the SW metagame I thought exclusives were what matters? In fact I remember Casey saying that in the ME2 thread.

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#91 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

On the spreadsheet yeah.

FIipMode

Library>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exclusives for me, both in the SW metagame and in real life.

In the SW metagame I thought exclusives were what matters? In fact I remember Casey saying that in the ME2 thread.

I don't know who Casey is but he lied, MusicalMac told me this place runs on anarchy rules. Were allowed to use whatever we want.
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#92 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

SecretPolice

Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

Are those exclusives more than the amount the PS2 had?

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#93 locopatho
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

SecretPolice

Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

At least 2 of those were on PS2... And your monitor couldn't contain the amount of awesome PS2 had.
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In terms of hardware, definitely. In terms of library, when speaking objectively, no.

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#95 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

SecretPolice

Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

Gamecube had the most GOTY titles on GS last gen.

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#96 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

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Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

Are those exclusives more than the amount the PS2 had?

Wellthey all had better grx and Halo CE alone is equal to I dunno 40-50 PS2 games. :P

Seriously, I hear ya but the games I listed are the awesome. :)

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#97 SilverChimera
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Nope PS2/GC had way better games.
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#99 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

SecretPolice

Are those exclusives more than the amount the PS2 had?

Wellthey all had better grx and Halo CE alone is equal to I dunno 40-50 PS2 games. :P

Seriously, I hear ya but the games I listed are the awesome. :)

pretty much every game listed is on pc, xbox was my gateway back to pc gaming. Morrowind was one of the best games last gen, xbox introduced me but pc won my gaming heart. I had given up on gaming for a long time, the ps1 and n64 didnt interest me much at the time and I didnt bother with pc for some reason.

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#100 coltgames
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the ps3 actually has graphics and ton of multiplats plus exclusives with variety for everyone unlike the xbox were it could not compete with ps2s amount of games it had. PS3 best graphics and alot of games the xbox just graphics and halo not the same