Xbox was the best console last gen. right ?

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#101 shutdown_202
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Sorry but Bayonetta's ass craps all over Rachael's

Jet Set Radio Future
Dead Or Alive 3
Dead Or Alive Ultimate
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysey
Oddworld: Strangers Wrath (should have added it dude)
Conker
RaliSport Challenge 2
Halo CE
Shenmue 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Ninja Gaiden
Street Fighter Anniversary edition
Jade Empire
Morrowind
Blinx (deal with it)

These were the game that made the Xbox for me. The more i think about it, the more i believe that there wasnt a best console last gen. The PS2 had the most highest rated games, theres no denying that but it wasnt for everyone (it was for me). What i mean by that is, a person thats a heavy FPS/WRPG player wouldnt find a home on the PS2 and in that regard, the Xbox would be the best console for them. Its something i liked about last gen, each system had its own area it catered too, unlike this gen where everyones going for everything. It meant you needed more consoles, but i liked that.

Im going to make a thread on this later.

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#102 omho88
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It had NGB andSHenmue2, so i think so, if only it had FFX, that would be YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

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#103 Aural_Assault
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For me Xbox was the best console of last gen. Xbox Live was outrageously awesome and based on that fact alone wins the "console war" of last gen. Not to mention, it had all the games I wanted to play: Halo 1 and 2, KOTOR I and II, Splinter Cell series (the ones that came out on the PS2 were a joke), Morrowind, Jade Empire, Forza Motorsport, Project Gotham Racing 1 and 2, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Amped 1 and 2, Pariah, Fable, Rallisport Challenge 1 and 2, Rainbow Six 3 and Black Arrow, Deus Ex Invisible War, Ninja Gaiden, and probably a few others that aren't in my game collection. The only things in my collection for Xbox are exclusives, games that also came out on PC, or games that came out on a significantly later date on other consoles.

I bought a PS2 for two reasons: Ace Combat and Amplitude. I used my brother's Wii for two reasons: Rogue Squadron and Resident Evil 4.

Nothing could compare to the original Xbox for me. My friends and I all brought our Xboxes over to a friend's basement every weekend and had the longest 16 player Halo games. Honestly, those are some of my favorite memories from that time. A PS2 or Gamecube couldn't have provided that experience or those memories for me. Xbox FTW

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#104 donalbane
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Based on the number of quality games, I'd have to say the PS2 was best, though I enjoyed the higher horsepower Xbox more, myself. The Gamecube only appealed to people trapped in the glory days of Nintendo, and was easily the worst console last gen.
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#105 PAL360
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I kinda agree since i had more games for it than for PS2. I used PS2 for exclusives and Xbox for everything else.

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#106 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

gameofthering

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

2nd weakest.

You implying Dreamcast right?

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#107 MrAmolou
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Playstation 2 won at sales

Gamecube won at 1st party games

Xbox won at graphics

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#108 SpideR_CentS
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I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

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#109 ohthemanatee
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I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

SpideR_CentS

what's ED?

- people will just stante the PS2's optional hardrive

- People will just state Dreamcasts' online

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Even though I played Halo and Halo 2 more than anything else, PS2 was still essential. It buried the Xbox in regards to quality games.
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#112 BlueHarvest28
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On sales alone ps2 is the best

list of most sold games consoles last gen

ps2

gameboy advance ( oh yes the gba sold more than the xbox)

xbox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

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#113 SpideR_CentS
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ummm no. Ps2 was the best in sales and games, gamecube was the best in terms of graphics (see resident evil) xbox was best online thoRenzokucant
No ****ing way was GC better then Xbox graphics wise. Riddick, Doom, Conker BLOW AWAY anything on GC or PS2

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#114 Loco_Live
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▲ Xbox may have had best graphics, but PS2 had good graphics and the best library of games. The gamecube had....melee? ▲

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#115 LegatoSkyheart
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I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

SpideR_CentS

So wait according to what you said...The Wii is HD.

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#117 clone01
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A discussion of a last gen console turned into PS3 vs Xbox 360. Why am I not surprised?

It's strange because the logic in this thread makes the Nintendo Wii the Winner because the Nintendo Wii is the Weakest of the 3 consoles and the PS2 was the Weakest last gen. (Graphicswise)

and on top of that, both the wii and the ps2 destroy in sales.
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#118 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

LegatoSkyheart

So wait according to what you said...The Wii is HD.

what's ED? :?

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#119 LegatoSkyheart
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▲ Xbox may have had best graphics, but PS2 had good graphics and the best library of games. The gamecube had....melee? ▲

Loco_Live

The Gamecube had Melee, MGS: Twin Snakes, Zelda: Wind Waker, Pikmin, Luigi's Manson, Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Soul Calibur 2, Twilight Princess, and even had a Peripheral to play GBA games.

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#120 clone01
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Ps2 was by far the best console last gen, much more A,AA,AAA titles and its best games like FFX, MGS2, MGS3, Dark Cloud games, Gran Turismo games God of War 1 & 2 etc where among the very best games of the gen.

hd5870corei7
i disagree. two of my favorite games were eternal darkness: sanity's requiem, and RE4.
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#121 LegatoSkyheart
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what's ED? :?

ohthemanatee

In other words, an SDTV with Progressive Scan.

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#122 Riverwolf007
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technically the ps2 crushed it but really i played my xbox far more than i ever played my ps2.

hell, i may have played rallisport challenge 2, rainbow 6 and ghost recon more than everything on ps2.

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#123 clone01
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

Wrong, it's a 100% fact that the PS3 has the best stats in terms of games and scores in it's time frame, that is the very defintion of consistent. It beats the 360 by a little and the Wii by a ton. Gamtrix

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent.

going by the spreadsheet, then, PC would be the most consistent, followed by the 360. the 360 has a higher overall rated library.
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#124 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what's ED? :?

LegatoSkyheart

In other words, an SDTV with Progressive Scan.

so the Xbox and wii are ED but none of them are HD, is that it?

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#125 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what's ED? :?

ohthemanatee

In other words, an SDTV with Progressive Scan.

so the Xbox and wii are ED but none of them are HD, is that it?

thw xbox had at least one hd game. dragons lair was in 1080i

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#126 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

so the Xbox and wii are ED but none of them are HD, is that it?

Riverwolf007

thw xbox had at least one hd game. dragons lair was in 1080i

there's also a List of 720 p games. So I guess I got the SpideR_CentS wrong, Xbox Original Games were AT LEAST ED. (He even said that so I should really start reading a little more.)

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#127 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what you defined is an average, not a consistency

clone01

Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent.

going by the spreadsheet, then, PC would be the most consistent, followed by the 360. the 360 has a higher overall rated library.

PC yes, 360 no. The 360 has been anything but consistent these last 3 or 4 years. WHich is like 80% of the console war. The PC yes.

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#128 SpideR_CentS
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[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

ohthemanatee

what's ED?

- people will just stante the PS2's optional hardrive

- People will just state Dreamcasts' online

480p = ED. PS's HDD you couldn't save games, etc and worked for 1 game I think. Dreamcast's online was a joke and 56k.

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#129 krunkfu2
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nope I fell Xbox and GCN were equal, but I think Xbox had a lot more B games

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#130 SpideR_CentS
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[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

LegatoSkyheart

So wait according to what you said...The Wii is HD.

No there is 1080i and 720p games on Xbox 1.

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#131 Half-Way
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GCN - graphics and best games (goty proves this)

ps2 - most good games (quantity and quality)

xbox - graphics and online

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#132 SpideR_CentS
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720p & 1080i Xbox 1 games:


720p:

25 to Life
Amped 2
Atari Anthology
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Crash Nitro Kart
Disney's Extreme Skate Adventure
Dragon's Lair 3D
Enter the Matrix
ESPN Major League Baseball 2K4
(16:9 only in 720p
ESPN NBA Basketball 2K4
Evil Dead: Regeneration
FIFA Soccer 2006
FIFA Street
FIFA Street 2
Freedom Fighters
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
Justice League Heroes
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
MVP Baseball 2004
MVP Baseball 2005
MX Unleashed
MX vs. ATV Unleashed
NBA 2K3
NBA Ballers
NBA Live 2006
Scarface: The World is Yours
The Sims: Bustin' Out
Soul Calibur II
4:3 window in 720p
Steel Battalion: Line of Contact
Street Hoops
Syberia
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
Total Overdose
True Crime: Streets of L.A.
The Urbz: Sims In The City
Virtual Pool
The Warriors
World Series Baseball 2K4
X-Men Legends
X-Men Legends II: Rise of the Apocalypse

1080i
Atari Anthology
Dragons Lair
Enter The Matrix
MX Unleashed
MX vs. ATV Unleashed
Syberia

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#133 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Higher average in a shorter time frame makes it more consistent. Gamtrix

going by the spreadsheet, then, PC would be the most consistent, followed by the 360. the 360 has a higher overall rated library.

PC yes, 360 no. The 360 has been anything but consistent these last 3 or 4 years. WHich is like 80% of the console war. The PC yes.

um, no. you dodged the question (well, actually two questions, as you've still failed to provide a gamertag). if you look at the spreadsheet, the 360 has the overall higher rated console library.
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#134 fabz_95
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Umm... No. The PS2 was clearly the better console in terms of games.
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#135 clone01
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PC yes, 360 no. The 360 has been anything but consistent these last 3 or 4 years. WHich is like 80% of the console war. The PC yes.

Gamtrix

you seem to like to present your opinion as fact. btw, still waiting on that gamertag.

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#136 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] going by the spreadsheet, then, PC would be the most consistent, followed by the 360. the 360 has a higher overall rated library.clone01

PC yes, 360 no. The 360 has been anything but consistent these last 3 or 4 years. WHich is like 80% of the console war. The PC yes.

um, no. you dodged the question (well, actually two questions, as you've still failed to provide a gamertag). if you look at the spreadsheet, the 360 has the overall higher rated console library.

Barely and only because of the year on the market alone. That has 0 to do with being consistent. And I'm not going to give you the gamertag I use because it's shared and I don't own the box. I just game on it.
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

How is it the most consistent? They went from no AAA titles for almost two years, lossing money on each PS3 sold for 3 years to a lot of AAA titles and making profit.....hardly consistent...

DroidPhysX

They had a bad first year or so and then they exploded into quality heaven. Since then it's been an amazing ride. And the future is packed. By far the most consistent console this generation.

Ummm....thats not consistent. Two years of mediocrity to 3 years of good-greatness is not even close friend. If any console is consistent its the Wii...(teh sales)

How'd you go from no AAA to mediocrity? Just because it didn't have any AAA (here at GS) doesn't mean it was mediocre. It was quite the opposite actually. So yes, it has been consistent.
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I had all 4 systems last gen, and to be honest I found the GC to be the best. DC had a great start, and would have probably been my fav, but alas it died before it could really shine.

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#139 clone01
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Barely and only because of the year on the market alone. That has 0 to do with being consistent. And I'm not going to give you the gamertag I use because it's shared and I don't own the box. I just game on it. Gamtrix
no, not barely...the spreadsheet doesn't lie. 360 has the overall better rated library. its fine if you prefer the PS3, but it doesn't make your theory correct. so, why don't you take a pic of that 360 along with a postit note with today's date and your GS username. that would put any doubt to rest. not sure if i'd want anyone using my gamertag to play halo 3, as it could affect that person's rank, but whetever. oh, and are you a lawyer, by chance?
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

On the spreadsheet yeah.

Library>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exclusives for me, both in the SW metagame and in real life.

In the SW metagame I thought exclusives were what matters? In fact I remember Casey saying that in the ME2 thread.

exclusives carry more weight thats true, but they aren't the be all and end all.
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#141 J-WOW
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This would be true if the PS2 didnt exsist
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#142 Mario1331
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xbox was last if anything its the ps2 or gc but it had great online for its time

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#143 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

I think down the road the Xbox will get it's props. As of now everyone will say PS2. I'd still say Xbox because...

- HD gaming. Every game was at least ED.

- First Console with a harddrive

- First real online console gaming

- By far best graphics

- Faster loading, etc

- Awesome games (Crimson Skies, KotoR, Halo, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, Riddick, Forza, etc)

SpideR_CentS

So wait according to what you said...The Wii is HD.

No there is 1080i and 720p games on Xbox 1.

There's no need to even respond to that anymore. If you had read I actually said I was wrong.

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#144 mexicangordo
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The Ps2 was way better than x-box. I might be in the minority in SW but i honestly thought the X-box sucked, and sucked hard. Though the ps2 was the best, I had the most fun with my Gamecube.

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#146 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Barely and only because of the year on the market alone. That has 0 to do with being consistent. And I'm not going to give you the gamertag I use because it's shared and I don't own the box. I just game on it. Gamtrix
no, not barely...the spreadsheet doesn't lie. 360 has the overall better rated library. its fine if you prefer the PS3, but it doesn't make your theory correct. so, why don't you take a pic of that 360 along with a postit note with today's date and your GS username. that would put any doubt to rest. not sure if i'd want anyone using my gamertag to play halo 3, as it could affect that person's rank, but whetever. oh, and are you a lawyer, by chance?

Why are you ignoring the intial discussion and starting a completly different one? Could be because you know you can't win the initial one? I'll take the pic just for you.

thanks. no, your original argument was a higher rated library. that's not true.
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#147 Arach666
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

SecretPolice

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There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

There´s actually 8 PC/xbox games in there!:P

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#148 clone01
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I'll take the pic just for you. Gamtrix
got that pic, yet?
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#149 Aural_Assault
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

But best console isn't decided by best graphics you know that, it's about the exclusives it has.

Arach666

Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden Black , Forza,Fable, Panzer Dragon Orta, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory etc.

There may be 1 or 2 umm PC/Xbox games there but who cares right ?:P

There´s actually 8 PC/xbox games in there!:P

But PC doesn't count as a console. They cater to a different niche :D

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#150 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Barely and only because of the year on the market alone. That has 0 to do with being consistent. And I'm not going to give you the gamertag I use because it's shared and I don't own the box. I just game on it. Gamtrix
no, not barely...the spreadsheet doesn't lie. 360 has the overall better rated library. its fine if you prefer the PS3, but it doesn't make your theory correct. so, why don't you take a pic of that 360 along with a postit note with today's date and your GS username. that would put any doubt to rest. not sure if i'd want anyone using my gamertag to play halo 3, as it could affect that person's rank, but whetever. oh, and are you a lawyer, by chance?

Why are you ignoring the intial discussion and starting a completly different one? Could be because you know you can't win the initial one? I'll take the pic just for you.

Why do you use that sig when evreybody knows that you're a Ps3 fanboy and you don't have a xbox 360? And Xbox 1 was awsome, personaly i found it way better then Xbox 360. It was much more powerful then the PS2, it was reliable, it had great online and while its selection of exclusives was rather small, it was a great list :D