Yahtzee concludes Resistances 3 >>> Gears 3

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#151 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The question is, why does Yahtzee prefer a game that he says blatantly ripped off Half Life 2? (Resistance 3) And he complains about Gears being a typical example of "brown games", yet there is a great deal of colour in the 3rd instalment. Some glaring inconsistencies here.

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he says it right in the review that he thinks that if you're going to rip off any series it might as well be Half Life. People are itching for a new Half Life game and it's not like they carbon copied the levels or anything. What's worse, copying the spirit of a great game or just giving your fans more of the same? He clearly doesn't make it a black and white comparison either. He acknowledges the good and bad of both games. He just prefers R3

I don't understand why people get all up in arms about Yahtzee. He makes hilarious videos with outstanding commentary but people trying to use his opinion regarding these two games as "proof" that their fanboyisms are more valid have clearly forgotten all the terrible things he said about Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Quit citing sources like IGN while trying to prove a point about something and then disregard that they claimed Crysis 2 on the 360 is the best looking console game. Same deal with Yahtzee. You either accept the reviewers opinion about everything they've said or you don't, you can't have any in between.That's what we call Double Standards!!! They're either a reliable source or they're not.
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#152 Grawse
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I don't really care about this guy, he is far from funny, but I really did like his review of Demon's Souls. I always think of that whenever his name pops up around here lol.

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#153 Zaibach
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Like everything else, he is wrong on this as well.charizard1605
his opinion is wrong?....okay

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#154 OmegaApache
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Wait, people here think Yahtzee is a reviewer? I fear for our future
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#155 tormentos
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Wait, people here think Yahtzee is a reviewer? I fear for our future OmegaApache
You should fear it more if you actually think normal reviewers from different sites are any different from him,most are not objective,consistent, and many don't even care about innovation,just give me the same crap all over again like this B or A game or your game will be punish.
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#156 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="OmegaApache"]Wait, people here think Yahtzee is a reviewer? I fear for our future tormentos
You should fear it more if you actually think normal reviewers from different sites are any different from him,most are not objective,consistent, and many don't even care about innovation,just give me the same crap all over again like this B or A game or your game will be punish.

No different than any other person with an opinion, really.

But while I watch Yahtzee for lulz more than anything, I can take more from his review and respect whatever he says about a game more than most reviewers because he doesn't use a numerical scoring system. He doesn't say something in a review, and then go and render it null & void by plastering a number on it. You hear what he has to say, and draw your own conclusions from it.

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#157 drinkerofjuice
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Like everything else, he is wrong on this as well.charizard1605
And your opinion is right? Okay then...
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#158 hiryu3
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I doubt anyone will disagree with this. Drakan11
come one now, this is system wars, the obviously is always fought tooth and nail as if it was unknown.
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#159 gamespot4life
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I agree, Resistance 3 is the hidden gem this yr that know one rly seems to know about. heck I even enjoyed dead island more than gears 3. only enjoyed horde mode this time around.

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#160 789shadow
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Look at the ****s I give.

He isn't even funny anymore.

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#161 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The point being, that if Yahtzee is taken as a source that Resistance 3 is "better" than Gears 3, they're also accepting from the same source that R3 is a blatant rip-off of HL2 (the whole Ravenholm level, chimera being human conversions like the combine, etc...). Is that the basis for being better than Gears 3, or for that matter being a good game on its own merits? ;)

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see your still looking way into this, the guy just said resistance 3 is better, if you don't agree move on with your life, don't see why your trying to decipher his meaning.

You really don't even understand the point he is making do you?

i could care less what his point is, you guys are complaining because you don't agree with his opinion, i don't see what the big deal is and like i said, i guarantee a majority of people on here haven't played both gears 3 and resistance 3

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#162 tormentos
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No different than any other person with an opinion, really.But while I watch Yahtzee for lulz more than anything, I can take more from his review and respect whatever he says about a game more than most reviewers because he doesn't use a numerical scoring system. He doesn't say something in a review, and then go and render it null & void by plastering a number on it. You hear what he has to say, and draw your own conclusions from it.mmmwksil
Exactly. I have see reviews for games that speak tons of great things from a game,then when the score comes in 7.? And you are like WTF. There is the inconsistency,which is one of the biggest problems,you see one reviewer flaming a game for something a game did bad,lets say lag bad controls,but then here comes another game with the same problems and them some,and they just basically omit it,some even name the problems,but when review time come is a 10. And you just scratch your head silly trying to understand how a game with so many name problems could be consider a 10,just because it has great graphics,gore and give you an impression of been something great. ""You can always find reasons not to give a game a review score of 10. Control issues (Gears of War has that). A.I. problems (that, too). Bad dialogue or storytelling (yes on both). Linear levels, online lag, limited modes (yup, yup, and yup). But as I was playing through the game, I found one consistently good feature: It was constantly impressing the hell out of me."" http://www.1up.com/reviews/gears-of-war_2 Yet you read the review for Resistance. http://www.1up.com/reviews/resistance And most of what he complain are actually stupid things,Resistance is to much like COD,WTF did he even play the game more than 30 minutes,Resistance an COD 2 had almost nothing in common,almost nothing,aside from been base on decade of WW2 which would mean time frame,they are 2 completely different games,with completely different stories,never the less is he retarded.? Like COD 2 was actually the first WW2 game,by the time COD2 came on PC and 360,world war them was greatly over done on PC and consoles. The he complain about the AI,is not that is bad he actually tell you the AI knows when your been out number and you have to use cover even that Resistance is not a cover based game like Gears,but it help because the AI is smart and will recognize when it has the advantage,then he say that you are drawn into a peekaboo hey isn't that what Gears is all about.? Peekaboo.? The enemy get open,you shot,they hide,they get open again and shot you hide.? The most amazing and different thing with this review is,that even that Resistance did no has all of Gears problems,because it wasn't impressive it was just another ok game,but Gears since it was impressive,it was worth ignoring all the serious not cosmetic problems it had,hell and he even forget to mention host advantage which was one of the biggest issues online. Reviews are average joes,with opinions,they are as biased as any one else,and since the 360 is so popular now in US is very easy to see that many reviewers are suck in into the hype.
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#164 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Well...Looks like we finally know what series is the best.

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Based on one dude's opinion? I may not care for Gears, but it's kind of a narrow perspective to think that one person speaks for everybody.

Just joking.I like Resistance but Gears curbstomps the s*** out of it.
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#165 tormentos
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Reviews are average joes,with opinions,they are as biased as any one else,and since the 360 is so popular now in US is very easy to see that many reviewers are suck in into the hype.

you had to get a dig at the 360 in there somehow didn't you.

Did you even read my post the complete post is about how reviewers were soft on gears problems,because it was a graphically impressive game,and how Resistance was punish from not been an graphically marvel,even when it did not had half of Gears problems.
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#167 greenskittles
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He makes some good points. His style is always to bash games though, not for no reason though but he will harp on about the negatives way more than he does the positives. Is Gears a forgettable franchise to me? Yeah, yes it is, it's fun whilst in lasts but there's nothing particularly great about it, even multiplayer.

The series is just to samey, arguably a bunch of videogame series' are like that but a lot of them have huge memorable sections and or narrative to it which bring it above the Gears franchise, like God of War (ok III had a crap story but nonetheless)

Anyhow, I can't really comment on the Resistance comment because I only played 2 for three hours and got bored of it, but it's still not enough to make a fair comparison.

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#168 donalbane
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Well Yahtzee plays mostly for single player,

Which is R3 heaviest praised area, and Gears weakest

Did you read the review at this site? They praise Gears singleplayer portion above all else.
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#169 LustForSoul
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Rather forgettable. That's why gears sold mils and Resistance sold 200-300k. Seems people already forgot Resistance after Resistance 2.
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#170 tormentos
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"] no. these gears problems you speak of are from your experience at gamestop LOL.

http://www.1up.com/reviews/gears-of-war_2 So you actually missed my link how odd and convenient.
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#171 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] see your still looking way into this, the guy just said resistance 3 is better, if you don't agree move on with your life, don't see why your trying to decipher his meaning.Chris_Williams

You really don't even understand the point he is making do you?

i could care less what his point is, you guys are complaining because you don't agree with his opinion, i don't see what the big deal is and like i said, i guarantee a majority of people on here haven't played both gears 3 and resistance 3

This was my first post in this thread...yet I've been complaining? Do you even read posts or do you just spout off whatever asinine thought comes in to your head?
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#172 Bretter2200
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Yet you read the review for Resistance. http://www.1up.com/reviews/resistance And most of what he complain are actually stupid things

Agreed on this. Most of the stuff they complained about was nonsensical.

But the issues you listed don't exist in Gears of war 3 though.

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#173 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="OmegaApache"]Wait, people here think Yahtzee is a reviewer? I fear for our future tormentos
You should fear it more if you actually think normal reviewers from different sites are any different from him,most are not objective,consistent, and many don't even care about innovation,just give me the same crap all over again like this B or A game or your game will be punish.

I completely respect Yahtzee's opinion. I really think his videos are some of the most hilarious video game related media on the internet. The problem here is that people are now citing Yahtzee as be all and end all of video game opinions which is also fine but then they must also agree that Uncharted 2 improves nothing over Uncharted 1 and is completely forgettable. Those are Yahtzee's words not mine. Do you agree that Uncharted 2 is completely forgettable tormentos?
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#174 tormentos
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Agreed on this. Most of the stuff they complained about was nonsensical.But the issues you listed don't exist in Gears of war 3 though.Bretter2200
Which is why i say in my first post that i could not speak about Gears 3 and Resistance 3,because i haven't play both beyond the Resistance 3 Beta. I was just making a point about the first 2 vs resistance first 2 chapters.
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#175 Tessellation
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scores wise he is wrong,but who cares he is giving his opinion..is not like he speaks facts :lol:
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#176 Frostbite24
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scores wise he is wrong,but who cares he is giving his opinion..is not like he speaks facts :lol:Tessellation
Exactly! The problem is when people try to parade him around and try to use his opinions as facts.
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#177 WithoutGraceXII
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Yahtzee is hilarious and he often makes a couple interesting observations that other reviewers overlook or ignore, but honestly he has an extremely narrow view of what makes a good game. Which is fine of course, it's his opinion. And did I mention he's hilarious? Btw to anyone who watched his Gears 3 review, why does he keep saying that the planet is going to explode? That was never an aspect to the plot, no idea where he's coming from.
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#178 kobedaGOAT
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Calling the Gears series forgetable us asinine. No the series doesn't possess great SP aspects. No the series doesnt possess great MP aspects. However, Horde is easily some of the best co-op of all time. Gears always releases with top notch visuals. Great cover mechanics. When you think of executions in a shooter, chainsaws, curb stomps, you'll immediately think of Gears. Resistance 3 had a much better SP campaign, the MP in both are equally mediocre, but Gears 3 shines brighter everywhere else. Actually co-op other thab lazy co-op campaign with no matchmaking. More polish, better stat tracking, better party system,etc.

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#179 Supabul
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Love Yahtzee's reviews, takes the piss out of everything. His God of War 3 and Final Fantasy 13 reviews are the funniest ones I've listened to
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#180 Master_ShakeXXX
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I agree, Resistance 3 is the hidden gem this yr that know one rly seems to know about. heck I even enjoyed dead island more than gears 3. only enjoyed horde mode this time around.

gamespot4life

The game is hardly "hidden." Just because it didn't garner massive sales and acclaim doesn't mean it's unknown. The Resistance games do have a decent sized fanbase.

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#181 arbitor365
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you guys need to remember that yahtzee is a comedian before he is an actual reviewer. he picks apart things for comedic value.

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#182 bobcheeseball
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I doubt anyone will disagree with this. Drakan11
i thought this was common knowledgecampzor
You two have much to learn.
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#183 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Of course he does, he loves to stir up crap to get more hits, that guy hasnt been funny for a while now. Every now and then he gets a chuckle from me.

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#184 Supabul
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I was actually thinking the same while playing Resistance 3, this all seems strangely familiar and then it hit me Half life 2
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#185 Heil68
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It appears he is a very intelligent person. Good for him.
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#186 casharmy
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Yet he blew off Demon's Souls because he couldn't get past the first boss...just saying.

I always thought he was pretty reliable until he made a snap judgement on his own inability to play a game.

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#187 Zaibach
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Yet he blew off Demon's Souls because he couldn't get past the first boss...just saying.

I always thought he was pretty reliable until he made a snap judgement on his own inability to play a game.

casharmy

I couldnt get past the first boss either, still waiting for the day I have the patience and fortitude to do so

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#188 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Drakan11"]I doubt anyone will disagree with this. heretrix

Except everybody.

Erm, nope.
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#189 The_RedLion
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It appears he is a very intelligent person. Good for him. Heil68
what has intelligence to do with anything?
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#190 Frostbite24
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It appears he is a very intelligent person. Good for him. Heil68
He said Uncharted 2 was a completely forgettable experience when he reviewed it. I'm sure you still think he's a very intelligent person though, right Heil?