yep, GT6 is coming

lol how can the fact that forza received a game every 2 years *the usual development cycle of games in this industry* be called milking? are charlie sheens now using the fact it took GT5 so long to release and the fact they were asked to pay for a demo as some sort of proof of non milkage?

Its not Microsofts fault that it took over 5 years to release GT5.

WilliamRLBaker

EVERY single installment of which has outscored GT5 both here, and metacritic :lol:

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] :lol: Never played Motorstorm but how the hell did I forget Ratchet and Clank?? carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Hopefully GT5s lengthy development was a one time disaster. It should be easy to transistion to GT6 given the huge library of quality assets they already have.

JohnF111

Plus they did put out the perfectly capable GT5:Prologue fairly early in the PS3's lifespan. So it's not like they delivered NOTHING at all. Sales wise, they did quite alright between the releases of GT5: Prologue and the full game. It probably took them 2-3 years to get the GT5 engine going, the rediculous part was how long it took them to get their "premium cars" and still not hit the launch date for the final game.

If they are doing another Gran Turismo for PS3 , it should take no time at all because you have to think they've at least got all the processes ironed out for PS3 development. I wouldn't be too upset with an "improved" GT5 with 100% premium cars, and some other tweaks and improvements (maybe a few new modes as well). That shouldn't take too long to spin off the existing GT5, and actually I wouldn't mind if they did a "spinoff" of the series instead of GT6. (kind of like what they did with Tourist Trophy, although I wouldn't want a dedicated motorcycle racer from them this time around...)

If they are announcing a PS4 game, then who knows how long they will stay silent. I think in terms of their "productivity" for this generation that it makes sense for them to do 1 more PS3 game and try and get it out well before the PS4 launch (that way they still have time to at least do some work on the engine for their PS4 games before the launch of PS4 hardware).

as long as they can make it

1.more fun

2.better design

3. get rid of standards

4.Actually use the licenses from things like WRC and NASCAR

then i might just might buy it.

who gives a crap gt's gameplay is utter boring drivvle..daveg1

i know you suck at it, but don't bash the game for that.

if you want explosions, there's Blur, Mario Kart, Midnight Club, Wangan Midnight, Modnation Racers, NFS (LULZ), Burnout, etc.

you're probably one of those kids that don't watch F1 races because they're "oh so boring".

what is GT's tagline? The Real Driving Simulator. using logic and common sense, does a racing game with that tagline would make for "omg explosionzzz and adrenaline-pumping action!"? use your head.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]who gives a crap gt's gameplay is utter boring drivvle..rumbalumba

i know you suck at it, but don't bash the game for that.

if you want explosions, there's Blur, Mario Kart, Midnight Club, Wangan Midnight, Modnation Racers, NFS (LULZ), Burnout, etc.

you're probably one of those kids that don't watch F1 races because they're "oh so boring".

what is GT's tagline? The Real Driving Simulator. using logic and common sense, does a racing game with that tagline would make for "omg explosionzzz and adrenaline-pumping action!"? use your head.

the feeling of speed or the visceral parts of racing seem nerfed when you even compare it to say a codies games which honestly are up there with GT5.

Thats why forza is trouncing gt these days aswell, the game feels more visceral, the handling is in the same ballpark as gt5 if you put on professional, its just got that edge you cant put your finger on.Honestly half the time in gt i've never got a feeling of actual speed even if im tanking 200mph down the Le Mans straight.

2 years after release and PD released a patch this week making further improvements to the game as well as continuing to release weekly content featuring new events and races for FREE.

GT Academy 2012 launched a few weeks ago, and previous winners of GT Academy just won their class at the 24 hours at Nordschlieffe.

PD's dedication to their customers is unprecedented, while Turn 10 is making a half ass casual game to milk more money from fans, PD continues to work to make a better experience for a game that came out 2 years ago.

Bravo PD

2 years after release and PD released a patch this week making further improvements to the game as well as continuing to release weekly content featuring new events and races. GT Academy 2012 launched a few weeks ago, and previous winners of GT Academy just won their class at the 24 hours at Nordschlieffe. PD's dedication to their customers is unprecedented, while Turn 10 is making a half ass casual game to milk more money from fans, PD continues to work to make a better experience for a game that came out 2 years ago. Bravo PDNuck81

The difference is that Turn 10 releases those updates as a new game and charges $60 for them.

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="daveg1"]who gives a crap gt's gameplay is utter boring drivvle..razgriz_101

i know you suck at it, but don't bash the game for that.

if you want explosions, there's Blur, Mario Kart, Midnight Club, Wangan Midnight, Modnation Racers, NFS (LULZ), Burnout, etc.

you're probably one of those kids that don't watch F1 races because they're "oh so boring".

what is GT's tagline? The Real Driving Simulator. using logic and common sense, does a racing game with that tagline would make for "omg explosionzzz and adrenaline-pumping action!"? use your head.

the feeling of speed or the visceral parts of racing seem nerfed when you even compare it to say a codies games which honestly are up there with GT5.

Thats why forza is trouncing gt these days aswell, the game feels more visceral, the handling is in the same ballpark as gt5 if you put on professional, its just got that edge you cant put your finger on.Honestly half the time in gt i've never got a feeling of actual speed even if im tanking 200mph down the Le Mans straight.

you can put your finger on it. it's because GT doesn't have motion blur. have you ever played a Gran Turismo game? every game has no motion blur, so your perception of the speed is "slow" even if it isn't.

and no, GT5 has better handling and physics.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

i know you suck at it, but don't bash the game for that.

if you want explosions, there's Blur, Mario Kart, Midnight Club, Wangan Midnight, Modnation Racers, NFS (LULZ), Burnout, etc.

you're probably one of those kids that don't watch F1 races because they're "oh so boring".

what is GT's tagline? The Real Driving Simulator. using logic and common sense, does a racing game with that tagline would make for "omg explosionzzz and adrenaline-pumping action!"? use your head.

rumbalumba

the feeling of speed or the visceral parts of racing seem nerfed when you even compare it to say a codies games which honestly are up there with GT5.

Thats why forza is trouncing gt these days aswell, the game feels more visceral, the handling is in the same ballpark as gt5 if you put on professional, its just got that edge you cant put your finger on.Honestly half the time in gt i've never got a feeling of actual speed even if im tanking 200mph down the Le Mans straight.

you can put your finger on it. it's because GT doesn't have motion blur. have you ever played a Gran Turismo game? every game has no motion blur, so your perception of the speed is "slow" even if it isn't.

and no, GT5 has better handling and physics.

I've played every GT game out bud, traded GT5 in cause i needed new strings for a bass since my high g broke.

I honestly think Cows over exaggerate how much better GT5 is in a sense of physics sure its good, but honestly anything made by Simbin or Codies are better.

2 years after release and PD released a patch this week making further improvements to the game as well as continuing to release weekly content featuring new events and races for FREE.

GT Academy 2012 launched a few weeks ago, and previous winners of GT Academy just won their class at the 24 hours at Nordschlieffe.

PD's dedication to their customers is unprecedented, while Turn 10 is making a half ass casual game to milk more money from fans, PD continues to work to make a better experience for a game that came out 2 years ago.

Bravo PD

Nuck81

This.

how many patches have PD gotten out? they update the game constantly, gameplay-wise and content-wise. even just by logging in you get something. on holidays, or just if something was up you get a free car coupon.

and it's not like GT5 is broken. they fix bugs constantly, even the smallest ones. T10 would never do that years after they released a game. even small audio glitches.

just look at this one of the fixes from the latest patch:

Fixed an issue where wrong color dirt and snow tire wheels were displayed on some cars when the wheels were changed

seriously, that's how loyal PD is to their customers. it wouldn't bother anyone if they didn't fix this since it's so minute, but they still fix it. amazing devs, indeed.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

2 years after release and PD released a patch this week making further improvements to the game as well as continuing to release weekly content featuring new events and races for FREE.

GT Academy 2012 launched a few weeks ago, and previous winners of GT Academy just won their class at the 24 hours at Nordschlieffe.

PD's dedication to their customers is unprecedented, while Turn 10 is making a half ass casual game to milk more money from fans, PD continues to work to make a better experience for a game that came out 2 years ago.

Bravo PD

rumbalumba

This.

how many patches have PD gotten out? they update the game constantly, gameplay-wise and content-wise. even just by logging in you get something. on holidays, or just if something was up you get a free car coupon.

and it's not like GT5 is broken. they fix bugs constantly, even the smallest ones. T10 would never do that years after they released a game. even small audio glitches.

just look at this one of the fixes from the latest patch:

Fixed an issue where wrong color dirt and snow tire wheels were displayed on some cars when the wheels were changed

seriously, that's how loyal PD is to their customers. it wouldn't bother anyone if they didn't fix this since it's so minute, but they still fix it. amazing devs, indeed.

honest to god you are an idiot, i've had multiple gifts off turn 10 over my tenure on 3 and 4 when its holiday season.Trying to say T10 hasnt fixed a few big issues and changed the levelling system in 4 to extend the cap for the hardcore forza players will suddenly be brushed to the side? or the fact they can actuaally implement promised features at launch instead of the month or so after launch?

GT5 was broken, and vey much so at launch and honestly had a negative effect on my view of the game, because honestly Polyphony fvcked up big time for a huge GT fan like me.

I've played every GT game out bud, traded GT5 in cause i needed new strings for a bass since my high g broke.

I honestly think Cows over exaggerate how much better GT5 is in a sense of physics sure its good, but honestly anything made by Simbin or Codies are better.

razgriz_101

if you've played every game out there then why are you here complaining about GT having no sense of speed when your answer is right in front of you? i don't care what happened to your guitar.

can't say anything for Simbin, but Codies games are so-so. the only driving games they made that i liked were the TOCA games (and not because of the physics).

Yeah and Forza 6 is going to still outscore it! :lol:

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

I've played every GT game out bud, traded GT5 in cause i needed new strings for a bass since my high g broke.

I honestly think Cows over exaggerate how much better GT5 is in a sense of physics sure its good, but honestly anything made by Simbin or Codies are better.

rumbalumba

if you've played every game out there then why are you here complaining about GT having no sense of speed when your answer is right in front of you? i don't care what happened to your guitar.

can't say anything for Simbin, but Codies games are so-so. the only driving games they made that i liked were the TOCA games (and not because of the physics).

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

I've played every GT game out bud, traded GT5 in cause i needed new strings for a bass since my high g broke.

I honestly think Cows over exaggerate how much better GT5 is in a sense of physics sure its good, but honestly anything made by Simbin or Codies are better.

kuraimen

if you've played every game out there then why are you here complaining about GT having no sense of speed when your answer is right in front of you? i don't care what happened to your guitar.

can't say anything for Simbin, but Codies games are so-so. the only driving games they made that i liked were the TOCA games (and not because of the physics).

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

if you've played every game out there then why are you here complaining about GT having no sense of speed when your answer is right in front of you? i don't care what happened to your guitar.

can't say anything for Simbin, but Codies games are so-so. the only driving games they made that i liked were the TOCA games (and not because of the physics).

Nuck81

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] My reaction to your reaction = my avatarkuraimen

About the thread, I don't really care about GT6.

honest to god you are an idiot, i've had multiple gifts off turn 10 over my tenure on 3 and 4 when its holiday season.Trying to say T10 hasnt fixed a few big issues and changed the levelling system in 4 to extend the cap for the hardcore forza players will suddenly be brushed to the side? or the fact they can actuaally implement promised features at launch instead of the month or so after launch?

GT5 was broken, and vey much so at launch and honestly had a negative effect on my view of the game, because honestly Polyphony fvcked up big time for a huge GT fan like me.

razgriz_101

oh yeah? well, does T10 still release small bug fixes for Forza 4? lol a month or so? GT's patch came on release day, its second patch came the 1-2 days after (depending on where you live). all the screen-tearing complaints in the reviews were patched after 2 days. of course it's still in the reviews because they played the game weeks before release date. a month or so, GT5 already had 4 patches. they listened to fan feedback that within a month they even accomodated the request to turn the HUD off. that's dedication.

GT5 wasn't broken. if it were, then how come people were playing it on release date? fact is, PD added more features as the months went by.

and you people look at it as if "PD should've added that on release! blah blah blah!", like T10 never added features after Forza launched. the thing is, 2 years after GT5, PD is still giving us new features. last week they added Photo Stream feature and a save data back-up feature. these updates are much better than "raising the level cap".

also, PD never charges $60 for a GOTY edition. LMAO. i remember the anger of the Forza fans when that was announced. PD never does a quick cash-in.

"bu..bu..but GT5 Prologue!" yeah, a game that came out 2 years before GT5, like how PD always releases a demo disc game for GT games, and it wasn't even $60.

meanwhile, the new Forza GOTY edition $60 where you can get all the DLCs aand additional cars which you can never buy anywhere else. so if you're a Forza fyou want the complete car list but already have the game, you can't buy the cars off of Xbox Live instead you should give us $60 more (that is, if you want a complete experiece).

oh wow, i can't imagine how PD fvcks up their customers when they offer a retail disc with all the patches and DLCs on it, or we can buy the DLCs off of PSN. can't imagine how PD only gave us so little DLC because there's really nothing to add, and how reasonably priced they are that you can buy just a car, or just a track, or buy a discounted bundle. my oh my.

keep having fun cows.

I like how im decried for not having a steering wheel bet most of you numpties dont own one either.

As usual we see the full Gran turismo defence league is in play.

Oh yeah Kuraimen, i only sold GT5 last November, y'know money was tight so it was surplus to requirement and was bought on release day when i thought it was amazing but over the course of a solid month of play i realised it was a pretty hobbled together game with no real direction and a very broken online component and the lack of auction house at the time was honestly criminal as much as their birthday glitch.

keep having fun cows.

I like how im decried for not having a steering wheel bet most of you numpties dont own one either.

As usual we see the full Gran turismo defence league is in play.

Oh yeah Kuraimen, i only sold GT5 last November, y'know money was tight so it was surplus to requirement and was bought on release day when i thought it was amazing but over the course of a solid month of play i realised it was a pretty hobbled together game with no real direction and a very broken online component and the lack of auction house at the time was honestly criminal as much as their birthday glitch.

razgriz_101

1) go to GT Mode, select either A-Spec or B-Spec.

2) it was broken on release date. assuming you actually played the game for "a solid month", then that means you had 29 more days to play online

3) so you went to find an auction house even though you had no game credits to buy a car? lulz. there's an offline used car shop, there's the new car dealerships, there's an online used car shop, there's an online guide to which races give which cars, you can receive car coupons from friends, and if you really want to whine so much there's the birthday glitch, which was actually more fun than any glitch in Forza.

4) to recap, you gave up on the game because you can't find the career mode, the license tests, the special challenges, and the seasonal events. then you couldn't play the game online during release date so you mark it off as broken. then it doesn't have an auction house because oh what are we to do, how do we get cars if there were no auction houses.

what a whiny little prick :roll:

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

keep having fun cows.

I like how im decried for not having a steering wheel bet most of you numpties dont own one either.

As usual we see the full Gran turismo defence league is in play.

Oh yeah Kuraimen, i only sold GT5 last November, y'know money was tight so it was surplus to requirement and was bought on release day when i thought it was amazing but over the course of a solid month of play i realised it was a pretty hobbled together game with no real direction and a very broken online component and the lack of auction house at the time was honestly criminal as much as their birthday glitch.

rumbalumba

1) go to GT Mode, select either A-Spec or B-Spec.

Yeah at launch playing the same few races over and over so i can unlock cars to drive, the actual decent races where im not driving a 1.4 Yaris is highly entertaining, least Forza i feel it throws you in at a fairly decent pace especially how it handles levelling in comparrison to GT which was my main irk it felt like a grind, you never feel like your getting anywhere and honestly it got boring.

2) it was broken on release date. assuming you actually played the game for "a solid month", then that means you had 29 more days to play online

The online system at launch was honestly horrid, it was poorly planned,designed and the UI screamed of bad design.

3) so you went to find an auction house even though you had no game credits to buy a car? lulz. there's an offline used car shop, there's the new car dealerships, there's an online used car shop, there's an online guide to which races give which cars, you can receive car coupons from friends, and if you really want to whine so much there's the birthday glitch, which was actually more fun than any glitch in Forza.

Idiot i dont think you understand what i mean by auction house, you ever seen the Forza one? its used for picking up bargains or special cars, its a great system shame it wasnt in GT5, it would have been better considering how rare some cars are actually it would have given the game a decent economy online aswell.It would have really opened it up for people.

the car coupon system is terrible to be bluntly honest and so is the online used car shop in comparrison to an auction house system where you are more likely to find what you want and possibly at a reduced price :o i got an Enzo for 300k on FM3 because someone had a doubler i guess.

4) to recap, you gave up on the game because you can't find the career mode, the license tests, the special challenges, and the seasonal events. then you couldn't play the game online during release date so you mark it off as broken. then it doesn't have an auction house because oh what are we to do, how do we get cars if there were no auction houses.

To recap i honestly think your a dumbarse cow troll, who probably should add me on PSN, once i get back to my parents house sometime next week i'll add you and you can see all the GT5 trophy's i actually have, done all the license tests, special challenges and various other major feats in the game mind you, you probably wont because your pride and your idiocy will get in the way of how you cant seem to grasp the concept i had a diffent experience than you purely based on the fact i dont allign myself to one platform like a silly cretin.

what a whiny little prick :roll:

excuse me while i bugger off and listen to Attila.

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Hopefully GT5s lengthy development was a one time disaster. It should be easy to transistion to GT6 given the huge library of quality assets they already have.

StrongDeadlift

people bash GT5 even when Kaz already said it took them a long time to create the engine and build up assets. besides, Polyphony is only 140 people. also, Santa Monica built God Of War 3's engine after they did God of War 1 (which came out in 2005). so clearly, it also took Santa Monica some time to build a new engine from scratch.

And after 6 years, and $60 million dollars, it couldnt even manage to outdo Forza 2, a 2007 game, made in 2 years :lol:

Sony Domination Continuation :cool:

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

people bash GT5 even when Kaz already said it took them a long time to create the engine and build up assets. besides, Polyphony is only 140 people. also, Santa Monica built God Of War 3's engine after they did God of War 1 (which came out in 2005). so clearly, it also took Santa Monica some time to build a new engine from scratch.

GamingGod999

And after 6 years, and $60 million dollars, it couldnt even manage to outdo Forza 2, a 2007 game, made in 2 years :lol:

Sony Domination Continuation :cool:

thats like claiming ownage of halo selling more than killzone.

We know its going to happen because its the flagship series of the console in most territories.

I like how im decried for not having a steering wheel bet most of you numpties dont own one either.

razgriz_101

Although that was before I bought my house. Here is a video of my set up AFTER i bought my house. GT5

honestly mate i couldnt give a rats ass if you own i'd rather spend that kinda dough on building a bass rig but diffent horses for diffrent courses, im just saying probably most of the idiots like Kuraimen dont own one.

TCARKAFHBFO (The Casual Arcade Racer Known As Forza Has Been Fvcking Owned)kuraimen

[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

And after 6 years, and $60 million dollars, it couldnt even manage to outdo Forza 2, a 2007 game, made in 2 years :lol:

Sony Domination Continuation :cool:

razgriz_101

thats like claiming ownage of halo selling more than killzone.

We know its going to happen because its the flagship series of the console in most territories.

I hope those muppets at PD get rid of the cheap vacuum cleaner engine sound effects and actaally make an effort include real engine sounds.

GT5 could have been a fantastic racing sim but was ultimately let down by the incompetence of their Japanese developers.

Should be a great game when it releases in 2018.Stevo_the_gamer

I dont understand how in the 2nd decade of the 21st century PD cant make realistic sounding engines in game, how hard can it be for a team of obsessives like themselves? Forza and many other games can manage so whats the problem with PD???

Ok in the past it was more a technical limit of the hardware (ps1/2) but with the ps3 and its lossless multichannel digital sound capability why do we STILL have to put up with third rate vacuum cleaner sounds, its pathetic really. Even the handfull (and i do mean only a handfull) of cars have slightly better sounds but when listed to next to the real thing even they fall over spectacularly.

Ive all but given up on PD and a GT game ever actually having good sounds and it saddens me.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

2 years after release and PD released a patch this week making further improvements to the game as well as continuing to release weekly content featuring new events and races for FREE.

GT Academy 2012 launched a few weeks ago, and previous winners of GT Academy just won their class at the 24 hours at Nordschlieffe.

PD's dedication to their customers is unprecedented, while Turn 10 is making a half ass casual game to milk more money from fans, PD continues to work to make a better experience for a game that came out 2 years ago.

Bravo PD

rumbalumba

This.

how many patches have PD gotten out? they update the game constantly, gameplay-wise and content-wise. even just by logging in you get something. on holidays, or just if something was up you get a free car coupon.

and it's not like GT5 is broken. they fix bugs constantly, even the smallest ones. T10 would never do that years after they released a game. even small audio glitches.

just look at this one of the fixes from the latest patch:

Fixed an issue where wrong color dirt and snow tire wheels were displayed on some cars when the wheels were changed

seriously, that's how loyal PD is to their customers. it wouldn't bother anyone if they didn't fix this since it's so minute, but they still fix it. amazing devs, indeed.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

keep having fun cows.

I like how im decried for not having a steering wheel bet most of you numpties dont own one either.

As usual we see the full Gran turismo defence league is in play.

Oh yeah Kuraimen, i only sold GT5 last November, y'know money was tight so it was surplus to requirement and was bought on release day when i thought it was amazing but over the course of a solid month of play i realised it was a pretty hobbled together game with no real direction and a very broken online component and the lack of auction house at the time was honestly criminal as much as their birthday glitch.

rumbalumba

1) go to GT Mode, select either A-Spec or B-Spec.

2) it was broken on release date. assuming you actually played the game for "a solid month", then that means you had 29 more days to play online

3) so you went to find an auction house even though you had no game credits to buy a car? lulz. there's an offline used car shop, there's the new car dealerships, there's an online used car shop, there's an online guide to which races give which cars, you can receive car coupons from friends, and if you really want to whine so much there's the birthday glitch, which was actually more fun than any glitch in Forza.

4) to recap, you gave up on the game because you can't find the career mode, the license tests, the special challenges, and the seasonal events. then you couldn't play the game online during release date so you mark it off as broken. then it doesn't have an auction house because oh what are we to do, how do we get cars if there were no auction houses.

what a whiny little prick :roll:

TCARKAFHBFO (The Casual Arcade Racer Known As Forza Has Been Fvcking Owned)kuraimen

:lol:

Oh plz god no! i dont want this to be the E3 surprise! i f****n hate racing games!

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I can't wait until 2018 so I can play it.

rumbalumba

sorry to break your tears, but Gran Turismo always releases 2 games each gen.

spend that kinda dough on building a bass rig razgriz_101

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]spend that kinda dough on building a bass rig Nuck81

hahha kid friendly, im 21 mate.

I'd just rather buy something like a EQ or a new chorus over a steering wheel, you DONT need a wheel to be into racing games either mate.I heavily enjoy racing games but honestly dont feel like i need a wheel or want a wheel to play them just far too much bloody hassle for 1 genre.

But still keep thinking im a kid and live your little lie, forza's a far better game which to be honest is what im more or less looking for.I probably own more racing games and played more than you have braincells judging by your honestly snobby post.

maybe this time it will be a game that looks like it was made for this gen instead of the last one.

oh wait, who am i kidding.

this is polyphony we are talking about.

the best we can prolly hope for is the 20 digit friends code list to be reduced to a 15 digit code to get in a friends game.

Hmm. So maybe it will be just as good as Forza 4 then.

Hmm. So maybe it will be just as good as Forza 4 then.

heretrix

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I can't wait until 2018 so I can play it.

DarkLink77

sorry to break your tears, but Gran Turismo always releases 2 games each gen.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Hmm. So maybe it will be just as good as Forza 4 then.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Hmm. So maybe it will be just as good as Forza 4 then.

heretrix

Forza is not great for the realism of driving. It's great for fun arcade racing.

Realism is what Gran Turismo great at.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Forza 3.5GamerwillzPS

Forza is not great for the realism of driving. It's great for fun arcade racing.

Realism is what Gran Turismo great at.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Your right. Im perfectly willing to wait, and get a better game. But then again, im not some 12 year old ADHD kid, who cant sit still. ;)kuraimen