you know, i was a skeptic in the beginning but now i realize pc gaming is better

have a poke around steam and impulse if you have a decent internet connection. theres many a great bargin to be had. i just got galactic civilisations 2 ultimate edition and its eating my life. its a turn based strategy game and its awesome. harsh learning curve mind. i also wanna get sid meiers pirates. its an old game that i initially overlooked but i saw a vid on impulse TV and it looks like it could eat even more of my life. its next on my to get list.osan0

[QUOTE="osan0"]have a poke around steam and impulse if you have a decent internet connection. theres many a great bargin to be had. i just got galactic civilisations 2 ultimate edition and its eating my life. its a turn based strategy game and its awesome. harsh learning curve mind. i also wanna get sid meiers pirates. its an old game that i initially overlooked but i saw a vid on impulse TV and it looks like it could eat even more of my life. its next on my to get list.slvrraven9

It's $2.49 right now on Steam

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="osan0"]have a poke around steam and impulse if you have a decent internet connection. theres many a great bargin to be had. i just got galactic civilisations 2 ultimate edition and its eating my life. its a turn based strategy game and its awesome. harsh learning curve mind. i also wanna get sid meiers pirates. its an old game that i initially overlooked but i saw a vid on impulse TV and it looks like it could eat even more of my life. its next on my to get list.treedoor

It's $2.49 right now on Steam

What are you implying here, that I am posting as two people? Unlike you I can be honest about the state of a platform and not wrap my identity in it. Only fanboys go to great lengths like making multiple accounts to defend their platform. I'll play on the platform that has the games, and recently that isn't the pc.[QUOTE="Birdy09"] And yea, most Sqaure Games dont, but then again quite a few do, I mean, thier real upcoming money maker Final Fantasy XIV isnt coming to PC I guess? MMO you say? well at least its better than that FFXIII average game by a long shot =). 88mphSlayer

1) I just find it hilarious that you 2 are always in the same threads posting negativities solely on PC Gaming, to the point where its a funny coincidence, oh and, as Vandal has said, someone is in denial, its not us. Its you. Once again, the database doesnt lie. and the fact that alot of great games are not reviewed aswell (see my xfire tag of the game played this week for example).

2) Consoles are missing out on many Good, Great, Superb games aswell, but, isnt what your doing defending? Your idea of the "best" and mine are very different, RDR is just another blockbuster title that will be shelved, and apperenlty its not worth playing in a few months time? I guess I can claim that the state of Console Gaming, Mainstream " major :lol: " gaming is so unhealthy to the point where your games cant keep your attention for longer than a day or 2 so badly, that you need the next hyped marketing fix to keep you going? Heroes of Newerth - 300 Hours, £15, more tournements than 90% of console games, probably a good 1000 more hours in it. No reviews. but oh noes, im missing out on . oh wait, I have all consoles! :o

Why do you get so serious about defending Pc gaming? Everyone knows Pc gaming is better, but it cost more, people here try and down play this , instead of just admitting the truth. In the end who cares. It is true that times are changing and consoles have closed the gap in online gaming and the graphics are good enough that if you didnt have a high end gaming pc to know the difference you will be happy with them. Developers are moving towards the consoles, piracy is affecting pc games, or more so the willingness of developers to invest tons of money on a PC only game or to even port some games at all. As a pc gamer myself I can admit things and not care one bit, I dont understand people that defend a plastic object like it gave birth to them. Ohhh but I am know as a PC BASHER because It dosent bother to have a opinion other the the PC hung the moon.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] any idea if they have the original Deus Ex on steam??slvrraven9

It's $2.49 right now on Steam

Well they're both different games.

Why not just play Deus Ex, and then play the sequel afterwards?

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"] What are you implying here, that I am posting as two people? Unlike you I can be honest about the state of a platform and not wrap my identity in it. Only fanboys go to great lengths like making multiple accounts to defend their platform. I'll play on the platform that has the games, and recently that isn't the pc.[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I said most of their games don't come to the pc, and of course their MMO will. Make all the defenses you want but the pc is missing out on some pretty big releases this year. As Avid-Gamer said most of the best pc releases these days are console ports, but maybe I'm posting as Avid-Gamer as well.

Advid-Gamer

1) I just find it hilarious that you 2 are always in the same threads posting negativities solely on PC Gaming, to the point where its a funny coincidence, oh and, as Vandal has said, someone is in denial, its not us. Its you. Once again, the database doesnt lie. and the fact that alot of great games are not reviewed aswell (see my xfire tag of the game played this week for example).

2) Consoles are missing out on many Good, Great, Superb games aswell, but, isnt what your doing defending? Your idea of the "best" and mine are very different, RDR is just another blockbuster title that will be shelved, and apperenlty its not worth playing in a few months time? I guess I can claim that the state of Console Gaming, Mainstream " major :lol: " gaming is so unhealthy to the point where your games cant keep your attention for longer than a day or 2 so badly, that you need the next hyped marketing fix to keep you going? Heroes of Newerth - 300 Hours, £15, more tournements than 90% of console games, probably a good 1000 more hours in it. No reviews. but oh noes, im missing out on . oh wait, I have all consoles! :o

Why do you get so serious about defending Pc gaming? Everyone knows Pc gaming is better, but it cost more, people here try and down play this , instead of just admitting the truth. In the end who cares. It is true that times are changing and consoles have closed the gap in online gaming and the graphics are good enough that if you didnt have a high end gaming pc to know the difference you will be happy with them. Developers are moving towards the consoles, piracy is affecting pc games, or more so the willingness of developers to invest tons of money on a PC only game or to even port some games at all. As a pc gamer myself I can admit things and not care one bit, I dont understand people that defend a plastic object like it gave birth to them. Ohhh but I am know as a PC BASHER because It dosent bother to have a opinion other the the PC hung the moon.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] any idea if they have the original Deus Ex on steam??slvrraven9

It's $2.49 right now on Steam

To be honest, Invisible Wars is a completely missable game. It isn't bad but it's really not worth experiencing. :)

The increasing prevalence of DRM has largely driven me away from PC games. If and when motion controls and their pointer accuracy can bring more RTS titles to the consoles I'll have little use for a gaming PC anymore.

ThePlothole

wow liike 2 games have really bad DRM, the rest are fine.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] So a sequal or successor to a console game is not on PC? SHOCKER! "Major Developers" you mean those published by Microsoft and Sony.... mainly Microsoft in this case... whoa ... such a giant list of games my heart bleeds.... *goes back to playing Heroes of Newerth, a game better than 90% of console major releases, and hasnt been reviewed y GS, or retail in stores* I guess only "major" games exist and are great.... haha i wish i was that ignorant, must be nice.dc337

neh, i hate pc gaming, only starcraft is good, its just not fun to me.

neh, i hate pc gaming, only starcraft is good, its just not fun to me.

GramDubs

[QUOTE="GramDubs"]

neh, i hate pc gaming, only starcraft is good, its just not fun to me.

General_X

neh, i hate pc gaming, only starcraft is good, its just not fun to me.

GramDubs

The caption was made at the top of my head:?

Why do you get so serious about defending Pc gaming? Everyone knows Pc gaming is better, but it cost more, people here try and down play this , instead of just admitting the truth. In the end who cares. It is true that times are changing and consoles have closed the gap in online gaming and the graphics are good enough that if you didnt have a high end gaming pc to know the difference you will be happy with them. Developers are moving towards the consoles, piracy is affecting pc games, or more so the willingness of developers to invest tons of money on a PC only game or to even port some games at all. As a pc gamer myself I can admit things and not care one bit, I dont understand people that defend a plastic object like it gave birth to them. Ohhh but I am know as a PC BASHER because It dosent bother to have a opinion other the the PC hung the moon.

Advid-Gamer

It is better, it's the exclusives I worry about.

quake live is enough to keep me away from consoles ATM

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] So a sequal or successor to a console game is not on PC? SHOCKER! "Major Developers" you mean those published by Microsoft and Sony.... mainly Microsoft in this case... whoa ... such a giant list of games my heart bleeds.... *goes back to playing Heroes of Newerth, a game better than 90% of console major releases, and hasnt been reviewed y GS, or retail in stores* I guess only "major" games exist and are great.... haha i wish i was that ignorant, must be nice.saruman354

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

It's $2.49 right now on Steam

To be honest, Invisible Wars is a completely missable game. It isn't bad but it's really not worth experiencing. :)

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Get ready to pay $3000 every year if you want to play the latest games.

cobrax25

I swear this place gets dumber by the minute sometimes.

You get used to how stupid/misinformed people are around here.

I didn't read anything except the title so i have no idea whats being said in this post... But I thought I would throw in my opinion.

First of all I have played PC games for a very long time. Back in 1999 I got a brand spanking new PC for christmas! It was so awesome. A $2,000 computer for hardcore gaming. You know... Like Half-Life, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counter-Strike... And the best thing about the computer is it was Y2K protected! haha. I played that PC for two years before it was time to get a new PC... I got a PC and played it for another few years... and when Half-Life2 came out with CS source... My computer could barely manage to run it. I love the style of playing shooters on the PC. The mouse and keyboard are awesome for games. I have not played PC games now for a good 4 years. I still love the PC for games, but I don't feel it's worth the money. I now have a Xbox360 for my games and a Macbook for all my school needs. I love the PC, but I also love Xbox360. What I like the most about the 360 and other consoles is that everyone has the same hardware and you don't have to worry about getting a new graphics card, or more memory, or a faster processor. You can know that if a game is out for that console... It will run on that console. The 200 bucks I spent on my 360 has been well worth it over these many years.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Get ready to pay $3000 every year if you want to play the latest games.

Vesica_Prime

I swear this place gets dumber by the minute sometimes.

You get used to how stupid/misinformed people are around here.

I didn't read anything except the title so i have no idea whats being said in this post... But I thought I would throw in my opinion.

First of all I have played PC games for a very long time. Back in 1999 I got a brand spanking new PC for christmas! It was so awesome. A $2,000 computer for hardcore gaming. You know... Like Half-Life, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counter-Strike... And the best thing about the computer is it was Y2K protected! haha. I played that PC for two years before it was time to get a new PC... I got a PC and played it for another few years... and when Half-Life2 came out with CS source... My computer could barely manage to run it. I love the style of playing shooters on the PC. The mouse and keyboard are awesome for games. I have not played PC games now for a good 4 years. I still love the PC for games, but I don't feel it's worth the money. I now have a Xbox360 for my games and a Macbook for all my school needs. I love the PC, but I also love Xbox360. What I like the most about the 360 and other consoles is that everyone has the same hardware and you don't have to worry about getting a new graphics card, or more memory, or a faster processor. You can know that if a game is out for that console... It will run on that console. The 200 bucks I spent on my 360 has been well worth it over these many years.

Tomemogus

The thing I like with Pc gaming back then was that every other year you had a major jump in graphics and ideas. Since 2005 with these current consoles graphics for the most part have been stalling Pc advances because most games are multiplat and have to be designed for the lowest common denominator which are the consoles. Another problem are game genres and ideas and games themselves keep on being rinsed and repeated over and over.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

If by outdated you mean able to play almost every game at 1680x1050 at 30-60fps then sure.

Snagal123

I can play Empire at medium on a single 8800GT, high when i enable SLI, but i do have a quad core and the game is quite CPU intensive.

invisible wars was the second one wasnt it? Steam doesnt list them in order, i dont think....ok wait let me pull it up again....hmm....they have the collection for $4.98. thats just the two games right? at least i think theres only 2 games...but thats still a good price to me...slvrraven9

I am mostly seeing preference being used as a reason why whichever chosen form of gaming is better. Opinion, preference, and subjective are usually the main words in these threads. It is also filled with misinformation that people chose to accept as the truth as well as people being called things they are not.

I have seen threads like this many times before. While they are not similar to the TC's opening post, the end result is usually the same; defense, insults, misleading, and overall bashing usually take place (I know this is SW, you don't need to tell me). My view on this is that after seeing these posts usually repeated every other day about the same topic, it just seems useless now. I'm pretty sure that whenever a user is not on these forums, they are just going to turn on the system they want to play. After this thread falls to the bottom, very little would have changed.

I am not saying do not speculate on the present or future. I just feel that the many opportunities to learn something new here usually fly over a lot of people's heads. Even if they don't like a particular system, that should not be a reason to not understand the basis of the platform.

Maybe I'm just being too neutral here, but it does tend to wear out its welcome.

PC gaming probably is better, but it isn't for me. Sometimes I do wish I had a good PC though for the Strategy games. I can live without a PC, but I could never go without my consoles.

Well its all about personal preference.I dont game on a pc because im not rich.

JordanizPro

[QUOTE="saruman354"][QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

Well its all about personal preference.I dont game on a pc because im not rich.

JordanizPro

Get ready to pay $3000 every year if you want to play the latest games.

2-10-08

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"] I second thisJordanizPro

Hmm, I'm going to be a little "out there" and say that neither of you are familiar with PC gaming.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

The increasing prevalence of DRM has largely driven me away from PC games. If and when motion controls and their pointer accuracy can bring more RTS titles to the consoles I'll have little use for a gaming PC anymore.

Sniping_Crowbar

wow liike 2 games have really bad DRM, the rest are fine.

Even the weakest DRM still takes away my second sale right. And anything that relies on a remote server verification will stop working if that server is ever shut down.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Glad someone atleast TRIED to give PC gaming a shot. :P Now go play Stalker - Shadow Of Chernobyl using the L.U.R.K mod. :) I recommend 1.05. Version 1.1 sucks really bad.

WhenCicadasCry

YES.

Along with Crysis, SoC was the first game I got with my new PC last week. It's absolutely fantastic, definitely one of the best games I've played so far. A greater introduction to PC gaming was hardly possible, really. Even Crysis seems mediocre in comparison. I even wrote my latest blog about it.

I'm about halfway now, so I'll play it again with that mod sometime after I finish it.

Ew, you're playing Stalker unmodded. :P With the Lurk mod it propels Shadow Of Chernoybl to a gaming masterpiece.

Yeah, my PC didn't have an internet connection when I started playing it. It's all raw and a bit buggy, but its geniality still shines through. The AI is awesome (although they can act a bit retarded indoors) and the atmosphere is unrivalled.

So I take it this mod fixes the bugs and such?

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Get ready to pay $3000 every year if you want to play the latest games.

imprezawrx500

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

The increasing prevalence of DRM has largely driven me away from PC games. If and when motion controls and their pointer accuracy can bring more RTS titles to the consoles I'll have little use for a gaming PC anymore.

ThePlothole

wow liike 2 games have really bad DRM, the rest are fine.

Even the weakest DRM still takes away my second sale right. And anything that relies on a remote server verification will stop working if that server is ever shut down.

I'm sure most games will get "unlocked" before the server goes down. If not i'll find a way to crack open that egg.

I'll take lower prices, and better performance I can control over being able to get back a small fraction of the small price I payed for the PC games.

Get ready to pay $3000 every year if you want to play the latest games.

2-10-08

im sure your not serious. i only spend somewhere around 2k + for my pc. though. i might want to replace my air cooler and get liquid. and I need a new monitor. and I think I my need a new case too. I would get a new gpu like a 5770 or 5830 if i could but i would need to think about that.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Why do you get so serious about defending Pc gaming? Everyone knows Pc gaming is better, but it cost more, people here try and down play this , instead of just admitting the truth. In the end who cares. It is true that times are changing and consoles have closed the gap in online gaming and the graphics are good enough that if you didnt have a high end gaming pc to know the difference you will be happy with them. Developers are moving towards the consoles, piracy is affecting pc games, or more so the willingness of developers to invest tons of money on a PC only game or to even port some games at all. As a pc gamer myself I can admit things and not care one bit, I dont understand people that defend a plastic object like it gave birth to them. Ohhh but I am know as a PC BASHER because It dosent bother to have a opinion other the the PC hung the moon.

dc337

[QUOTE="saruman354"][QUOTE="dc337"] L.A. Noire isn't a sequel and both it and RDR aren't published by MS or Sony. Most Square Enix and Namco games skip the pc as well.

dc337

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

Buy a 52inch plasma TV, better yet a HD Projector and get 7.1 surround sound.

lowe0

Yeah it's not necessary at all, but then i keep hearing console gamers say you MUST soend at leat £3000 on a PC to make it gameable, that's not true. As someone said you can build a console killer for cheaper than a console.

I'd also like to point out that all of you here are typing out these words on a PC, how much did you pay for your PC? Now add that to the cost of your Console. I'm pretty sure the outcome will something like £500 at least, you can build an amazing rig for that much money.

Even the weakest DRM still takes away my second sale right. And anything that relies on a remote server verification will stop working if that server is ever shut down.ThePlothole

i went into pc gaming . its not as good as it was last gen. i went back to console gaming . will still play some pc games like shogun and bad company . But i wont be spending much on upgrades .

Well its all about personal preference.I dont game on a pc because im not rich.

JordanizPro

I'd also like to point out that all of you here are typing out these words on a PC, how much did you pay for your PC? Now add that to the cost of your Console. I'm pretty sure the outcome will something like £500 at least, you can build an amazing rig for that much money.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Even the weakest DRM still takes away my second sale right. And anything that relies on a remote server verification will stop working if that server is ever shut down.Vandalvideo

They could, but there's no guarantee that they will. Why should we be hassled at all with something that has never managed to do what it was supposed to? (DRM does NOT stop piracy!)