Zelda has to move with the times and increase its presentation and production.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I enjoyed Gears a lot though.too_much_eslim

While the story was really there You understod everything you was doing and why.

I've always been critical over GeoW because of the praise that it receives for nothing, virtually.

Graphics are good but the physics are non-existant.

Gameplay gets boring after a while (I don't like shooting at the same enemy for 10 seconds to kill it).

Story = cliche'd and is virtually non-existant.

1. Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

2. Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

3. ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

4. Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

5. Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

6. ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

7. Also bring back special swords and weapons.

8. Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

too_much_eslim

1. Agreed. However, Nintendo sold millions of copies of Twilight Princess without voice acting. I expect the next Zelda not to have any voice acting even though it should.

2. Nintendo MIGHT do this for the next Zelda, but I'm not too sure. Nintendo admittedly used MIDI for Twilight Princess because of "easier transitions between areas" or whatever they said. The way Nintendo made it sound...."we are too lazy to use a live orchestra for a Zelda game. But it is fine for Super Mario Galaxy..."

3. Agreed.

4. I thought the boss battles in Twilight Princess were great. Yeah, they were too easy though. Side quests in other Zelda games weren't exactly useful either. They are just there for completionists who want to do a 100% run of the game.

5. Agreed. Castle Town sucked. And why were there so many loading screens in that town? Like every few steps, and then another loading screen.

6. Agreed.

7. Agreed.

8. Agreed.

I still liked TP a lot even though I agree with most of your statements. But I sure don't expect Nintendo to implement voice acting into the next Zelda. It would be nice though.

Well, it could have easily been Okami's lack of marketing. I wouldn't have heard of that game if I didn't look at websites about games. Same with Psychonauts. Publishers are afraid to advertise the games they're not sure will sell well, when in reality being afraid to advertise them is condemning them. Who knows? With some proper advertising, they might have sold well. Sure, Gears appeals to the mainstream but Microsoft basically made it a big deal themselves through marketing. If Okami had that kind of exposure, it might have sold decently at least.Scaifism

Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.Shinobishyguy

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

Agreed. The series has gone stale and it needs something, new and fresh to revitalise it.

But still nothing truly breathtaking and awe-inspiring.

you seem to be forgetting which game nabbed GOTY and is praised for revitalizing the platforming genre.

Cool. Mario Galaxy is an amazing game, but hardly a masterpiece.

considering that it has a whopping 97% and is right up there on the top ranked games of all time I'd say yes...it is a master piece as far as platformers go.

Wow, I guess my opinion clouded me from realising Galaxy's obvious greatness. :roll:

yeah...so 40 + minute cutscenes for zelda...yeah that sounds fun :|Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.super_mario_128

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

Agreed. The series has gone stale and it needs something, new and fresh to revitalise it.

But still nothing truly breathtaking and awe-inspiring.

you seem to be forgetting which game nabbed GOTY and is praised for revitalizing the platforming genre.

Cool. Mario Galaxy is an amazing game, but hardly a masterpiece.

considering that it has a whopping 97% and is right up there on the top ranked games of all time I'd say yes...it is a master piece as far as platformers go.

Wow, I guess my opinion clouded me from realising Galaxy's obvious greatness. :roll:

This is the general consensus we are talking about.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Shinobishyguy

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.Shinobishyguy

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

Agreed. The series has gone stale and it needs something, new and fresh to revitalise it.

But still nothing truly breathtaking and awe-inspiring.

you seem to be forgetting which game nabbed GOTY and is praised for revitalizing the platforming genre.

Cool. Mario Galaxy is an amazing game, but hardly a masterpiece.

considering that it has a whopping 97% and is right up there on the top ranked games of all time I'd say yes...it is a master piece as far as platformers go.

Wow, I guess my opinion clouded me from realising Galaxy's obvious greatness. :roll:

This is the general consensus we are talking about.

What opinion veil? If you actually believe that Galaxy is up there with OoT, Mario 64, Metal Gear Solid and GTA then you need to take off your fanboy goggles for a few minutes. :|

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

yeaaah...no

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

to MGS fanboys: yes.

to everyone else: hell no.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.super_mario_128

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

Agreed. The series has gone stale and it needs something, new and fresh to revitalise it.

But still nothing truly breathtaking and awe-inspiring.

you seem to be forgetting which game nabbed GOTY and is praised for revitalizing the platforming genre.

Cool. Mario Galaxy is an amazing game, but hardly a masterpiece.

considering that it has a whopping 97% and is right up there on the top ranked games of all time I'd say yes...it is a master piece as far as platformers go.

Wow, I guess my opinion clouded me from realising Galaxy's obvious greatness. :roll:

This is the general consensus we are talking about.

What opinion veil? If you actually believe that Galaxy is up there with OoT, Mario 64, Metal Gear Solid and GTA then you need to take off your fanboy goggles for a few minutes. :|

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Shinobishyguy

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

yeaaah...no

foxhound_fox

Well, these days it seems they are.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

play nice, you two!

then apparently every reviewer needs to take off their respective fan boy goggles :roll:Shinobishyguy

Yeh, because in eery SMG review, each respective reviewer said "it's up there with the likes of..."

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

Well, these days it seems they are.Doctor-Salvador

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]then apparently every reviewer needs to take off their respective fan boy goggles :roll:super_mario_128

Yeh, because in eery SMG review, each respective reviewer said "it's up there with the likes of..."

Meanwhile MGS4 has alot of 10's and a few 80's

Yeah, Zelda could use a touch-up... because the formula for the last 3 games (excluding Majora's Mask) all followed the same root.

3 temples at start: Forest, Fire, then Water

From there you probably get the Master Sword.

More Temples

Final Boss

And don't even get me started on the temple layout, it's the same design for every one.

I can't wait for the day when they make a Zelda game that has a dungeon unlike any of its kind before. Just to **** with our heads, because we all know the typical temple in Zelda games now.

[QUOTE="Doctor-Salvador"]Well, these days it seems they are.foxhound_fox

People usually have to wait a while before they can correctly judge a game, Sonic Adventure showed us that.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Shinobishyguy

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You know, not all people prefer "deep" games, and voicing your opinion that you prefer "deep" games does not make you seem smarter.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You may not remember it...but needless to say it'll still be regarded as arguably the best 3d platformer around.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Doctor-Salvador

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You know, not all people prefer "deep" games, and voicing your opinion that you prefer "deep" games does not make you seem smarter.

Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.Shinobishyguy

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You may not remember it...but needless to say it'll still be regarded as arguably the best 3d platformer around.

People remember BK and SM64 because they were two of the first real attempts at 3D graphics and both games were brilliant to boot. While Galaxy is an excellent game, it doesn't have the wow-factor that those games had, hence making them a bad comparison.

Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.super_mario_128

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.Doctor-Salvador

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

Quote me where I said those exact words. I said that Majora's Mask was more memorable - and that's an opinion.

EDIT: I see what you mean now, "it won't live long in the memory", or something like that. It's natural that it "won't be remembered" as much as games such as OoT for being a true masterpiece because it's approach brings nothing new. Albeit, it does superbly with what it brings; a more enjoyable platforming experience, but that's hardly as mind-blowing as revolutionising gaming in 3D like SM64 did, for example.

Saying "it won't be remembered" was definately ignorant and I should have put my point across more clearly.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.Doctor-Salvador

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You may not remember it...but needless to say it'll still be regarded as arguably the best 3d platformer around.

People remember BK and SM64 because they were two of the first real attempts at 3D graphics and both games were brilliant to boot. While Galaxy is an excellent game, it doesn't have the wow-factor that those games had, hence making them a bad comparison.

Did you see the matter splatter galaxy, the gravity effects of the space junk galaxy, the trippy design of the final level before the final fight with bowser? And thats just naming a few.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yeah...so 40 + minute cutscenes for zelda...yeah that sounds fun :|foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Doctor-Salvador"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.super_mario_128

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

Quote me where I said those exact words.

"No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. "

derp

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yeah...so 40 + minute cutscenes for zelda...yeah that sounds fun :|Teufelhuhn

....and give link a beard. Those are always good.

Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

too_much_eslim

And about your list, it sounds like you want to craft a "super Zelda" combining all the elements from the previous Zeldas into a game that has it all. And you also want it to move forward? Nostalgia and innovation? Personally, I don't see it working out....

[QUOTE="Doctor-Salvador"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.Shinobishyguy

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You may not remember it...but needless to say it'll still be regarded as arguably the best 3d platformer around.

People remember BK and SM64 because they were two of the first real attempts at 3D graphics and both games were brilliant to boot. While Galaxy is an excellent game, it doesn't have the wow-factor that those games had, hence making them a bad comparison.

Did you see the matter splatter galaxy, the gravity effects of the space junk galaxy, the trippy design of the final level before the final fight with bowser? And thats just naming a few.

I obviously have seen them since I've played the game - trouble is I can't...remember them. ;)

For your other point, I edited my previous post.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Doctor-Salvador"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Well at first I thought that was a fair point but if I openly said I was stating an opinion, I'd be using the "opinion veil" again.super_mario_128

Saying that SMG won't be remembered is not stating an opinion.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Agreed 1000%. Nintendo needs to get with it, it's not 1998 anymore. Miyamoto should have the whole staff play through MGS4 a few times so they're completely aware of the sort of production values other games have.super_mario_128

MGS4 > any Nintendo-made game this decade. :|

yeaaah...no

Is that Galaxy again? Brilliant, because I love a depthless game.

No, but it certainly helps. SMG was very fun at first, but It won't live long in the memory like deep games such as MGS1 and OoT - I even rate Majora's Mask higher than SMG due to the fact that it is more memorable - no review can change that. :|

You may not remember it...but needless to say it'll still be regarded as arguably the best 3d platformer around.

People remember BK and SM64 because they were two of the first real attempts at 3D graphics and both games were brilliant to boot. While Galaxy is an excellent game, it doesn't have the wow-factor that those games had, hence making them a bad comparison.

Did you see the matter splatter galaxy, the gravity effects of the space junk galaxy, the trippy design of the final level before the final fight with bowser? And thats just naming a few.

I obviously have seen them since I've played the game - trouble is I can't...remember them. ;)

For your other point, I edited my previous post.

Damn....watch the quote chains guys... MoldOnHold

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Damn....watch the quote chains guys... Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

MoldOnHold

And about your list, it sounds like you want to craft a "super Zelda" combining all the elements from the previous Zeldas into a game that has it all. And you also want it to move forward? Nostalgia and innovation? Personally, I don't see it working out....

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Damn....watch the quote chains guys... MoldOnHold

what say you super mario 128?

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Damn....watch the quote chains guys... MoldOnHold

:x Oh sod off. -.-

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Damn....watch the quote chains guys... Shinobishyguy

what say you super mario 128? I though this game was forgettable :o