[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="fs_metal"] [QUOTE="eztarg8"]That's only your opinion though. I say Cloud has more determination, he kept fighting even though he got stabbed and he was just a normal foot soldier. See that was pretty easy for me to state. The second time Cloud beat Sephiroth, Cloud beat him by himself too. Sephiroth had 3 forms. His first 2 were just alien things. The last one was his human body. The same thing that Zack fought. Cloud beat him by himself. And the third time Cloud beat Sephiroth, he beat him without using any materia at all, which is the reason it was harder for Cloud, yet Sephiroth said he was stronger.blademasterx
No it's not my opinion. Zacks personality ios a hell of alot more upbeat than Clouds is. Hi will to live prevailed over most things.Cloud only took Sephiroth on by himself after he and his frinds had taken away all his physical strength. That doesn't really count. It's almost like killing someone in their sleep. Same basic rules. He was dazed. In a state where he physically could no logner react.
The third time wasn't the real Sephiroth though. It was a recreation from one third of what was left over after he was killed which would indicate that he is at one third of his usual strength.
and for the last time can we have a source from square to conferm that the sephiroth in ac was just a replica?and how does the second time does not count?all his friends did was help cloud take out forms empowered by jenovas head the last time was sephiroths human form.the only differemce was that cloud was able to kill him unlike zack.and yes eztarge,the last fight in ac he did kill sephiroth without useing materia and that just shows how powerful he became.It cannpt be the real him. Think about it. Sephiroth die. All that was left was those 3 that were supposed to be his remanent. If those 3 were his remanent then it should follow that his strength was devided up among 3 people. IT doesn't make sense any other way. IF all 3 of them had fmorphed into one person and then turned into Sephiroth, he would have been at full strengthI JUST EXPLAINED WHY THE SECOND ONE DOESN'T COUNT. Sepohiroth was beat at that point. He goit outmatched by Cloud AND 2 OTHER PEOPLE. When Cloud delivered the final blow, it's loke shooting a dying soldier in the head or something. There was no fighting at all involved in that part, thus it does not count.
jeez fs you just can't accept that cloud is stronger then zack can you?and yeah your theory would make sense if square said so but since they did not it still stands that was full power sephiroth.and i just explained why the second one does count you make it seem like sephiroth was banged up clearly he was not,it's just that cloud had just found out the ultimate technique omnislash and sephiroth just got owned by it.Either that your you can't accept that he's not. Did you ever think of that?Jsut because htey didn't come oput and say it does not mean that it is not true. It makes sense.The fact that you are attempting to follow the word of SE like a blind lap dog instead of thinking for yourself explains ALOT about you.
He was beaten up. You had just beaten him up. Twice. PEopletend to be beaten up after you beat them up you know....twice. He was beaten up. What Cloud did is called overkill.
hey,i don't follow square word like a lapdog it's just that you can't assume things without proof.and in this case thats exactly what your doing.and yeah,sephy was beaten up but he was not down for the count hell if he was so beaten up he would not have reach out to cloud for the final bout right?Is it so wrong to actually think about the plot on something more than just a basic level? No? The idea makes perfect sense but you are willing to dismiss it becase 'square enix didn't say it.' That's not thinking for yourself. that is letting SE think for you.He has pretty much lost his strenght and any effort he mgiht have put up at that point would have been hopeless.
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