Project Zephyr; Xbox 360 V2 : What we know about it...(info,pics,video)

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#151 5th_element
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yeah ....... but i already have xbox 360 !!!!!!!!!!!.........DAMN !!!!!!!!!!
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#152 Dragonx79
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even if this is true, why are people complaning. the new chip has the same power, and as for the 120gig hd, sure its good, but it will cost a fortune. i don't have a hd tv so i don't care about the ports either.

this new 360, if it does come out, will cost alot more than a current 360, it will not replace it. 120gigs, you're gonna have to pay for that.
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   Well it might, but i think it will be the same price. Since for one the 360 will be more cheaper to manufacture because of the switch to 65nm CPU. That alone CAN make a 50$ dollar decrease in price but won't. Because of this alone a bigger hard drive (not 120gb) and HDMI can be added. I think the 120gb is not true since it's 6x the space and microsoft probably wouldn't want to incresase the price. Besides that if you read exactly what they said it seemed like they just threw that in. If there is gona be a bigger hard drive it will probably be 40 or 60gb (cuz the ps3 has no more then 60gb). So there is a great chance that a bigger harddrive and HDMI can be added without a increase in price. (and obviously the 65nm since it's making the other improvements possible)

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#153 Breesy
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Well I think MS really needs to come out and make a decision on this.  I (and many other gamers) am in limbo as to getting a 360 or PS3.  Right this second im leaning toward a 360 but i dont wanna get screwed over by them adding in all this new stuff a month after i get it.  This rumor is really the only thing preventing me from getting a 360 in a few weeks.  It would really be great if they came out and said yes we are or no we arent.  Either way it doesnt make a huge diference but if im gonna pay $$$ i want the good version...

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#154 -Wildweasel-
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Well I think MS really needs to come out and make a decision on this.  I (and many other gamers) am in limbo as to getting a 360 or PS3.  Right this second im leaning toward a 360 but i dont wanna get screwed over by them adding in all this new stuff a month after i get it.  This rumor is really the only thing preventing me from getting a 360 in a few weeks.  It would really be great if they came out and said yes we are or no we arent.  Either way it doesnt make a huge diference but if im gonna pay $$$ i want the good version...

Breesy

Same for me...

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#155 xtrailer188
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I bit the bullet and bought one yesterday. I didn't see the point in waiting for an HDMI port what I wouldn't use anyways. As for the larger HD, I have no plans of using the IPTV service.

No regrets.

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#156 Cajones_Del_Mar
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wow, hadn't heard of this yet, cool :D
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#157 omegamustard
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i'm just gonna buy one, if a newer version comes out, if it has anything that i truly need or what not, i might get it.
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#158 subrosian
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Microsoft isn't going to be keen on making any huge price concessions right now. I was an early believer that the 360 would see fast price cuts simply because of pressure from the PS3 - but thanks to poor performance from the PS3, Microsoft has *plenty* of time to bask in "not cutting the price".

Frankly, with system sellers like Halo 3 coming out, the only reason Microsoft would cut price is response to some serious market incentives for them to do so. They're making profit, and profit makes the shareholders happy.

As far as the IPTV redesign goes - Microsoft is going to be keen on getting IPTV into *every* Xbox 360 - they're not going to ignore a 10.4 million unit install base - think about it. As far as a larger hard drive goes - no system has a higher accessory attach rate than the 360 - they're not going to ignore that. Trust me, if Microsoft can make an extra $150 off you by offering a "media hard drive" add-on then they'll do it.

As far as redesign goes - ask yourself - what company wants to manufacture three seperate SKUs? Microsoft got in trouble with the required nVidia royalties last-gen, I don't see them wanting to pay to use HDMI ports on their device. They would have to make two seperate motherboards, one with the port, and one without, that's too complex. However, if they suddenly add the port to the "lower end" models (which saves them money) the lower-end models lacking the port are now bunk.

Personally, I don't see them springing for the port. It isn't needed for IPTV, and the HD-DVD add-on is simply that, an add-on, not the core purpose of the system. Microsoft doesn't get royalties from HD-DVD sales either, keep that in mind - they could be getting a percentage of the profits in an IPTV scenario. They're likely keener to go towards something that lines their own pockets.
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#159 booomer69
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Thank god for this Sticky,Now we dont have to hear trolls talking about it.
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#160 EvilSeanConnery
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Thank god for this Sticky,Now we dont have to hear trolls talking about it.booomer69

Especially the fact since their is no project Zephyr.

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#161 holhardy
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And my 2 year replacement plan from best buy for 38 bucks is looking better and better, but the question is will the new 360 have the hd-dvd player in it as well?????? Only time will tell, heres hoping. :D
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#162 Zachariael
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You might wanna check this site guys (http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/06/zephyrs-hdmi-port-and-new-hana-scaler-up-close-and-personal/). Check out the video too...

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#163 Teroza49
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Video

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/clip-xbox-360-hdmi-in-action-226584.php Zephyr or Modded?

Maui00

weel, if it's modded, it's pretty well done.

Ther is one detail that may prove that it's modded. The animal, next to the tv (sorry, english isn't my native language) is the same as used with the whole xbox linux project.

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#164 stoutlad
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[QUOTE="booomer69"]Thank god for this Sticky,Now we dont have to hear trolls talking about it.EvilSeanConnery

Especially the fact since their is no project Zephyr.

Actually, I just listened to the KOXM podcast the other day, and they are all putting their money on it being legit. They are rarely wrong, especially they usually have insider information that they try to call "rumors" so they don't get hammered for leaking the info. I bet their is a project Zephyr. It'll probably come out late summer or this fall.
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#165 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Maui00"]

Video

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/clip-xbox-360-hdmi-in-action-226584.php Zephyr or Modded?

Teroza49

weel, if it's modded, it's pretty well done.

Ther is one detail that may prove that it's modded. The animal, next to the tv (sorry, english isn't my native language) is the same as used with the whole xbox linux project.

That was proven to be a fake. If you watch the video it becomes somewhat obvious that second 360 is hooked up to the monitor, which is what the stuffed animal and blanket are covering. Look at the very peculiar route he takes to show the cables are hooked up. When you're showing something real off, you walk all around it, so that you can see all of the objects (monitor, 360, and cable) at once. In any case, a few people compared the times (on the video) to the actual startup, as well as some of the noticeable button press-lag, and determined this video wasn't real. Microsoft confirmed that the HDMI-port equipped Xbox 360 does exist. This video isn't it though.
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#166 ilovesnowboard
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Ms already said they weren't planing anew version of the 360. Anyways, what's so big about an hdmi port, huh ? You can have Hdtv already, so i don't see the effin problem.
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#167 MoldOnHold
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Please do something about that power brick Microsoft.
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#168 cloudiest_wolf
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Ms already said they weren't planing anew version of the 360. Anyways, what's so big about an hdmi port, huh ? You can have Hdtv already, so i don't see the effin problem.ilovesnowboard

hdmi gives a better signal.  pretty much gives someodd million colors along with a bandwidth of 4.9 Gbps video transmission.  HDMI 1.3 can do double the bandwith and offer some odd billion colors but only found on the latest of the latest gadgets.

component cannot compete with hdmi.  and if it does, then you're tv isn't fully utilizing hdmi

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#169 dilwaala
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same here. was all psyched to buy the 360 until i started seeing rumors flyin around about the v.2.
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#170 d_40
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so does mean that there is a diferent 360 coming out soon?!?!?+!
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#171 ilovesnowboard
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[QUOTE="ilovesnowboard"]Ms already said they weren't planing anew version of the 360. Anyways, what's so big about an hdmi port, huh ? You can have Hdtv already, so i don't see the effin problem.cloudiest_wolf

hdmi gives a better signal.  pretty much gives someodd million colors along with a bandwidth of 4.9 Gbps video transmission.  HDMI 1.3 can do double the bandwith and offer some odd billion colors but only found on the latest of the latest gadgets.

component cannot compete with hdmi.  and if it does, then you're tv isn't fully utilizing hdmi

Well, when watch tv through hdmi, it sucks ! If i watch when i use component, it's looks awesome..but that's just for tv, maybe it's a difference for the 360.
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#172 _christoph
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Well I think MS really needs to come out and make a decision on this.  I (and many other gamers) am in limbo as to getting a 360 or PS3.  Right this second im leaning toward a 360 but i dont wanna get screwed over by them adding in all this new stuff a month after i get it.  This rumor is really the only thing preventing me from getting a 360 in a few weeks.  It would really be great if they came out and said yes we are or no we arent.  Either way it doesnt make a huge diference but if im gonna pay $$$ i want the good version...

Breesy

same here.

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#173 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Breesy"]

Well I think MS really needs to come out and make a decision on this. I (and many other gamers) am in limbo as to getting a 360 or PS3. Right this second im leaning toward a 360 but i dont wanna get screwed over by them adding in all this new stuff a month after i get it. This rumor is really the only thing preventing me from getting a 360 in a few weeks. It would really be great if they came out and said yes we are or no we arent. Either way it doesnt make a huge diference but if im gonna pay $$$ i want the good version...

_christoph

same here.

They've already said "no" and they're going to keep saying "no" until the day before they release this product. You either wait for the next "upgrade" - knowing that it could be months until such a product exists - or you buy the 360 and live with the reality that all technology depreciates.
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#175 xploded
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sign up please! slipknotdevil13
this has to do with what? and they said no... and they will say no... until suddenly, oh yeah... we had to... do it... for uhh... MONEY@
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#176 G-mann07
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I think this will help the 360 outt alot more having a bigger hard drive. Butt is that going to raise the price hugely? Also is that the only thing that will be differ? Or better graphics or something?

Every time u post a PS3 Breaks. 
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#177 _christoph
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[QUOTE="_christoph"][QUOTE="Breesy"]

Well I think MS really needs to come out and make a decision on this. I (and many other gamers) am in limbo as to getting a 360 or PS3. Right this second im leaning toward a 360 but i dont wanna get screwed over by them adding in all this new stuff a month after i get it. This rumor is really the only thing preventing me from getting a 360 in a few weeks. It would really be great if they came out and said yes we are or no we arent. Either way it doesnt make a huge diference but if im gonna pay $$$ i want the good version...

subrosian

same here.

They've already said "no" and they're going to keep saying "no" until the day before they release this product. You either wait for the next "upgrade" - knowing that it could be months until such a product exists - or you buy the 360 and live with the reality that all technology depreciates.

yea i got to thinking the same thing you just said. i minds well just get the 360 now because i could end up waitin a year or something.

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#178 F1sTDaCuffS
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i dont care what happens, if its new, i just buy a new one and sell my old one. a difference of 100 bucks. whats the big deal.. the whole time your thinking of which one to buy your, missing all the fun. 
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#179 subrosian
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i dont care what happens, if its new, i just buy a new one and sell my old one. a difference of 100 bucks. whats the big deal.. the whole time your thinking of which one to buy your, missing all the fun. F1sTDaCuffS
well the most important thing for those of us considering buying now is all the deals we missed - free game, free $100 gift card, free extra controller, et cetera. Right now they're just offering us Madden 2007 with the 360 (ugh). Personally, I'm hoping someone pulls out a nice 360 sale soon!
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#180 martialbullet
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hopefully project zephyr has all the bells and whistles so you wont have to buy it separately and create clutter.

If there will be a new version of the 360, I would want:

-HDMI

-built in HD DVD

-120 gb hard drive

-smaller power brick or better yet no power brick

-Built in wifi network

so yeah:)

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#181 JohnWinger
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hopefully project zephyr has all the bells and whistles so you wont have to buy it separately and create clutter.

If there will be a new version of the 360, I would want:

-HDMI

-built in HD DVD

-120 gb hard drive

-smaller power brick or better yet no power brick

-Built in wifi network

so yeah:)

martialbullet

Sure let me mention that to Microsoft....

I'm sure Bill Gates will pistol whip me the moment I open my mouth.

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#182 tF_x_CamPeR
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what is it?

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#183 Lionhart_basic
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What they could do is offer the updated X360, with 120 gig drive and HDMI, @ $399 and the current premium, with the 20 gig drive, sell for $299 (price drop) and eliminate the basic X360. They could release it around the same time Sony decides to drop the price of PS3. My opinion anyways.
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#184 cristinin45
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[QUOTE="stebun"]this should be stickied, im tired of seeing topics about thisMaui00
I really would like that. I'm actually looking foward for the updated 360.



Well its not a product that guy from Microsoft said it was an experiment and is not going to be a product




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#185 herbie12282
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i hear the new 360 will have a sun-porch, jacuzzi and a mini-bar
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#186 skate_n_game
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1080p & HD-DVD? If this is real, I can easily see it costing $600+
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#187 toxicmog
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As an 'early' adopter of the Xbox 360 platform I feel that Micrsoft as a company has betrayed their most loyal fans. We pay them with our good money for the latest in video game consoles to find them only a year later updating the system with features that were supposed to be on the original system. I am not worried about the larger hard drive as I dont store any media besides game demos on there, I dont care about the cooler chip as I already have an intercooler but seriously adding a hdmi port?! I am one of those people who do have a 1080p hdtv and I am really pissed that now they decide to introduce a hdmi port. Hopefully though they will be able make some sort of accessory so the v1 360s will support hdmi

kamtong1
Nintendo and Ony do it. they think of things to do after the original...it helps boost sales :(
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#188 toxicmog
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1080p & HD-DVD? If this is real, I can easily see it costing $600+skate_n_game
Internal HDD would ONLY be added if it wasn't going to use it as a games medium..which it wotn as all current 10 mil xboxs will be obsolete.
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#189 menmau
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How about the phases in the board? Will 360 get solid phases? It wil improve the quality of X360 motherboard, and also it will be more reliable!
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#190 TobyA
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what is "Capability to serve IPTV (Internet Protocol Television)"? and who needs a 120g hard drive? and will microsoft really leave its loyal "first buyers" in the cold? this is going to piss off a lot of people if the xbox 360 out now cannot be updated to this new project zephyr coming out. when is it coming out?
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#191 Draconis77
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what is "Capability to serve IPTV (Internet Protocol Television)"? and who needs a 120g hard drive? and will microsoft really leave its loyal "first buyers" in the cold? this is going to piss off a lot of people if the xbox 360 out now cannot be updated to this new project zephyr coming out. when is it coming out?TobyA
Yeah, it definitely would piss off a lot of people. I'm wanting to buy a 360 real soon, but this is making me want to wait. I wish there would be an official word on it.
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#192 TobyA
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[QUOTE="TobyA"]what is "Capability to serve IPTV (Internet Protocol Television)"? and who needs a 120g hard drive? and will microsoft really leave its loyal "first buyers" in the cold? this is going to piss off a lot of people if the xbox 360 out now cannot be updated to this new project zephyr coming out. when is it coming out?Draconis77
Yeah, it definitely would piss off a lot of people. I'm wanting to buy a 360 real soon, but this is making me want to wait. I wish there would be an official word on it.

dude me too. i am wanting to buy one around march but i dont want to buy one then have them release a newer updated one.
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#193 bam_boozled_ber
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i bet this comes out in september. i heard from toms hardware or something
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#194 JuiceLive
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What they could do is offer the updated X360, with 120 gig drive and HDMI, @ $399 and the current premium, with the 20 gig drive, sell for $299 (price drop) and eliminate the basic X360. They could release it around the same time Sony decides to drop the price of PS3. My opinion anyways.Lionhart_basic

I would say it'll play out similar to that...So most likely Christmas '07.

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#195 deactivated-5c3869dad187c
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http://xbox360.qj.net/Zephyr-to-debut-in-Australia-this-April-/pg/49/aid/82057 They claimed MS confirmed it.
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#196 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Spectre-123"]http://xbox360.qj.net/Zephyr-to-debut-in-Australia-this-April-/pg/49/aid/82057 They claimed MS confirmed it.

Take that with a grain of salt - I imagine MS is pretty keen to wait until July to make any price cuts / overhauls to the system hardware. Then again, they do want to stomp the PS3 off the face of the earth - knowing that they lost to Sony last gen is likely to make them keenly aware of the need to simply dominate from the get-go.
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#197 RikkAndrsn
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Microsoft will most likely release the new Xbox 360 as something like Xbox 360 Media Edition. I might sell my current 360 if the HDMI is worth it, which it very well may be in my case.

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#198 Breesy
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As long as current 360s can somehow be upgraded and "loyalists" arent left in the cold i say upgrade..why wouldnt you want it better??
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#199 SBurns22
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I hope they do release it, i just hope that costco will sell this in a bundle because that is where i bought my first 360.  There return policy is unlimited so im just gonna take my 360 back, they'll give me 510$(i think thats wat i payed originally) on a gift card, then i will upgrade at the extra cost
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#200 subrosian
Member since 2005 • 14232 Posts
The problem is that Microsoft wants to empty the pipeline before the (cheaper) redesign comes out. Even if they (which they likely will) keep the 20gig model on the market, they're going to move it to 65nm simply to save money.

The problem for the consumer that this creates is that retailers have no desire, or need, to gives us a deal to get rid of 360s. Combined with the lack of Wiis, and poor PS3 sales, there's simply no incentive for someone to give a kickback to those of us who want a 360 now.

I'm left staring at full-priced 360s when, prior to Christmas, my friends were given $100 gift cards by Toys R US, two free games by Best Buy, and free controllers by Circuit City just for making their purchase. It's a frustrating position, and one I wish would be addressed now rather than in July.