the old republic vs knights of the old republic 3 poll.

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#1 hughami
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obviously tor is coming out, but which would you rather have :question: ?
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#2 craigalan23
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Older version i wont buy the newer one or at least i truly doubt i will. I'm not a big fan of MMO.
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#3 UT_Wrestler
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I would have preferred an actual single-player game that continued the unfinished story rather than another stupid WoW clone.
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#4 stike22
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The new ones online only and well UT_WRESTLER has it completely right, I know they were doing it for fans but they are being * for not putting a single player in the game. I much prefer a single player game, I am gonna say this once there is no point to online games anymore! at all! why? because even the dirt under your house knows that WoW can't be beaten! so I wish companies would just leave online alone! the only reason they do it is to make money, its pathetic all they had to do was make a single player game.
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#5 hughami
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do you think there is a chance that obsidian would develop it? i read on an article from '06 that they were making it. look up "ign predicts 2006" and the info is all in the first link.
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#6 hughami
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The new ones online only and well UT_WRESTLER has it completely right, I know they were doing it for fans but they are being * for not putting a single player in the game. I much prefer a single player game, I am gonna say this once there is no point to online games anymore! at all! why? because even the dirt under your house knows that WoW can't be beaten! so I wish companies would just leave online alone! the only reason they do it is to make money, its pathetic all they had to do was make a single player game.stike22

and what is stupid is that of they just made kotor 3, no one would be pissed, they would make plenty of money, and it would get tons of award's etc if done right.

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#7 doubalfa
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yeah but by making it a MMO they will a) sell games for like $40 bucks each (average) and b) have the players pay a monthly fee wich makes them have even more money, so all the star wars fan and the people tired of WoW will at least try it for a month or two, and maybe its good but I will never ever pay a monthly fee to play just one game Of course KoTOR 3 would be my choice
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#8 hughami
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anyone who wants kotor 3 needs to speak up so we can get it!
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#9 gloomy_druid
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I think tor will be able to continue the unfinished storyline, except it's in MMO format. Yeah, bioware/obsidian should continue the series, get a whole new character, etc
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#10 BigDaddyChacon
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I want KOTOR 3, dammit!!!!
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#11 dukerav
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KotOR 3 for me, although I have faith in Bioware to put out a quality MMO, even though it's their first go around at that genre. Hopefully there will be sort of a WoW effect, in that Blizzard is a quality developer who back a few years ago had never done an MMO ever, and then they release WoW, and the rest is history, Im hoping that happens for Bioware in this case.
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#12 hughami
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I want KOTOR 3, dammit!!!!BigDaddyChacon

wish there was a way to convince them.

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#13 stike22
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I WANT KOTOR 3 OFFLINE! THAT WOULD BE BLOODY NICE! Who the heck wants another online game? WoW has already won it like 6yrs in a row all online game pale in comparison and the cheek is I have never even played WoW but any idiot can see there is no point when WoW is out.
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#14 hughami
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look up "ign predicts 2006" theres an article which states that kotor 3 is in production?
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#15 PlasmaBeam44
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I love MMOs so I'm excited for TOR. But I wouldn't mind a real KOTOR 3.
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#16 Palantas
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I'm a BioWare fan, and although I'd like to see what they would do with an MMO, I would rather have had another single-player game to continue the Knights storyline.

It's like if after Baldur's Gate, and Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, they were just like, "Surprise! Throne of Bhaal is going to be an MMO." That would have sucked.

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#17 ace_pilot_marek
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gameplay and story would likely be so similar I pick KOTOR 3 so we don't have to deal with those stupid monthly fees
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#18 ask1111
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Kotor 3 hands down
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#19 ItalianSta11ion
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TOR on 360 FTW
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#20 hughami
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TOR on 360 FTWItalianSta11ion
well it might come to 360. but i agree with everyone else i would want kotor 3 over tor anyday. teyve butchered it by making it an mmo. im not gonna play it.
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#21 hughami
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who here thinks that obsidian could do it? i think they could, as long as those jerks at lucasarts dont rush them again........
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#22 gr8scott
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who here thinks that obsidian could do it? i think they could, as long as those jerks at lucasarts dont rush them again........hughami
That's a good point. I usually don't remember the fact that Obsidian rushed the product to get it out. I think Obsidian could do a good job as long as they aren't rushed. I liked the majority of KOTOR 2 but obviously it was the weaker of the two KOTOR games. As for the topic, I would rather have KOTOR 3 than The Old Republic (although I will still try it out). For those of us that have played the first 2 KOTOR games, we know what those games have. The first two KOTOR games had great characters and a storyline that Star Wars and RPG fans craved. The cast of characters for the first KOTOR game was very memorable. From Mission to HK-47, this cast of characters were great. The only downside was that you could only have 2 in the party at one given time hehe My problem with this being a MMO is that the storyline could very well suffer. We all know that in MMO games, storyline is an after thought to questing and leveling and getting loot. Even though Bioware assures us that there will be a strong storyline, I just don't see it happening. I've played some MMO games and storyline is seemingly hidden. Anyone remember that epic FFXI storyline? How about a great MMO like World of Warcraft? Remember that epic storyline there? Yes these MMO games have storylines and a plot but they will ALWAYS be an after thought because leveling up and getting epic loot is the goal all along. It was the story and characters that made KOTOR an epic adventure that has many fans talking about the game years after its' release. The first KOTOR game is considered by many people not only as one of the best RPGs on the xbox, but also a classic game that will be remembered for a long time. An MMO title puts very little emphasis on storyline and characters. It just takes away everything the first two KOTOR games were all about. I'm the kind of a person that would take an epic storyline over multiplayer or MMO anyday. I'm still going to try out The Old Republic, but I would perfer a fantastic single player RPG game than a MMO with a monthly fee.
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#23 hughami
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very well put, all we can hope for is that they or obsidian make a kotor 3. check out this article - http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/680/680220p1.html if it doesnt work just copy and paste the url etc ;) .
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#24 akiraxander
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Thinking about them putting out an MMO instead of a single player game makes me sad. :( KOTOR 1&2 are two of my favorite games, but with the next one being an MMO I know I will not be purchasing it. I also feel that MMORPG's need to be on the PC not on consoles. Just IMO. ;)
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#25 hughami
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yeah, they want to bring it to xbox 360 i know for sure, maybe ps3 too. but seriously all of us o.g. fans need kotor ****ing 3!!!!
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#26 jarvis008
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KOTOR 3 without a doubt. I don't think I'll even buy TOR.
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#27 moose_knuckler
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KOTOR 3 FTW, although I'm probably gonna buy TOR anyway since the story is gonna be good. It's so stupid though how coincidental it is that once SW:Galaxies starts going down the tubes in terms of sales, they announce TOR.
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#28 moose_knuckler
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By the way I'm sure they're gonna make KOTOR 3 and announce it soon (I still feel a disturbance in the force lol). As long as TOR doesn't dive back into the history of KOTOR then I'm contempt with them making TOR. Maybe, if and when, they make KOTOR 3 perhaps they'll try to make some references to TOR or something like that.
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#29 raahsnavj
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tOR is a MMO... that is an instant pass for me.
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#30 mlbslugger86
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i say they murdered the series...why the hell did they have to go and make it a mmorpg???

isn't it enough to have star wars galaxies???

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#31 hughami
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if they do include old stuff i'll be pissed. if we cant have kotor 3 set after the events of kotor 2. i would be more than happy for it to be set in either the great hyperspace war, the sith war, or the mandalorian wars. i mean in kotor 2 when atton talks about what he did for the sith during the mandalorian wars, i just imagined how cool it would be to play through that time line etc. plenty of awesome possibilities. this "tor" has TORn out a huge whole in my soul lol. tor can suck it. long live KOTOR!!!!!
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#32 hughami
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if they do include old stuff i'll be pissed. if we cant have kotor 3 set after the events of kotor 2. i would be more than happy for it to be set in either the great hyperspace war, the sith war, or the mandalorian wars. i mean in kotor 2 when atton talks about what he did for the sith during the mandalorian wars, i just imagined how cool it would be to play through that time line etc. plenty of awesome possibilities. this "tor" has TORn out a huge whole in my soul lol. tor can suck it. long live KOTOR!!!!!hughami
any thoughts on this idea?
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#33 UT_Wrestler
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I think tor will be able to continue the unfinished storyline, except it's in MMO format. Yeah, bioware/obsidian should continue the series, get a whole new character, etcgloomy_druid
That's not true. From what I've read, the game actually will take place in a different time period.
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#34 gr8scott
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Yeah, The Old Republic takes place in a different time period as UT_Wrestler mentioned. I have beat the second KOTOR and there are still some questions that have left to be answered. ****POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT BELOW****** * * * * * At the end of KOTOR 2, there is a scene with Carth and Bastila. They said they were still trying to find out what happened to "Darth Revan". Now let me ask you fans this. Isn't that something you would like to find out with KOTOR 3? What did happen to Revan after the events of the first KOTOR game? Isn't that really a strong storyline that Obsidian or Bioware could really make something good out of? There is also a storyline they could continue with involving Kreia and your character. If not Kreia, what happened to Atris? We are all assuming Kreia went down in the end of the game. What about the other Jedi that survived? KOTOR 2's ending was a HUGE cliffhanger (and disappointment). That is definitely a storyline that could continue. It's not even close to being completed. I know I was waiting to see what could happen. Anyone else feel the same? Make no mistake, I was disappointed with KOTOR 2's ending. However, I do realize this game was rushed and it could have been better had it not been rushed. That makes the case for making KOTOR 3 (a single player RPG) that much stronger doesn't it? The need to continue telling the storyline. Afterall, wasn't the storyline the best part of these KOTOR games? I don't care if they pick it up with Revan or your "exile" jedi from the second game. As long as the story is relevant with the time frame, I'd just like to see the 3rd game. It just kind of blows my mind that not enough people at Bioware or Obsidian would think of making the 3rd installment to this franchise.
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#35 GodLovesDead
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Thread is lacking the poll.
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#36 UT_Wrestler
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It just kind of blows my mind that not enough people at Bioware or Obsidian would think of making the 3rd installment to this franchise.gr8scott
Neither one of those studios owns the rights to the Star Wars IP, that would belong to Lucas Arts, so if you're going to point the finger at someone, that's who to be angry at. Really, it's all about money now, Lucas Arts sees the MMO genre as a chance to get tons money. In an mmo, you pay a monthly fee whereas in a single-player game you pay for the game and you're done. And unfortunately, they're whoring the KOTOR name in order to do so.
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#37 gr8scott
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Ah my mistake ^^ Thanks for the correction. It's just a little frustrating that KOTOR 3 may not be made even though this series rightfully deserves another sequel. Perhaps we could use a Jedi Mind trick on the people at Lucas Arts to making one hehe
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#38 Stashbash
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I would have prefered KOTOR 3 to be honest, personally I just don't believe TOR has what it takes to be a truely great MMO and break the market. I'd love it to be the next big thing in the MMO market, I really would as I'm a massive fan of the series. However, I have a sinking feeling it'll go the same way as games such as AoC. KOTOR 1 and 2 were some of the best single player experiences I've ever had the pleasure of playing through so KOTOR 3 gets my vote.
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Yeah, The Old Republic takes place in a different time period as UT_Wrestler mentioned. I have beat the second KOTOR and there are still some questions that have left to be answered. ****POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT BELOW****** * * * * * At the end of KOTOR 2, there is a scene with Carth and Bastila. They said they were still trying to find out what happened to "Darth Revan". Now let me ask you fans this. Isn't that something you would like to find out with KOTOR 3? What did happen to Revan after the events of the first KOTOR game? Isn't that really a strong storyline that Obsidian or Bioware could really make something good out of? There is also a storyline they could continue with involving Kreia and your character. If not Kreia, what happened to Atris? We are all assuming Kreia went down in the end of the game. What about the other Jedi that survived? KOTOR 2's ending was a HUGE cliffhanger (and disappointment). That is definitely a storyline that could continue. It's not even close to being completed. I know I was waiting to see what could happen. Anyone else feel the same? Make no mistake, I was disappointed with KOTOR 2's ending. However, I do realize this game was rushed and it could have been better had it not been rushed. That makes the case for making KOTOR 3 (a single player RPG) that much stronger doesn't it? The need to continue telling the storyline. Afterall, wasn't the storyline the best part of these KOTOR games? I don't care if they pick it up with Revan or your "exile" jedi from the second game. As long as the story is relevant with the time frame, I'd just like to see the 3rd game. It just kind of blows my mind that not enough people at Bioware or Obsidian would think of making the 3rd installment to this franchise.gr8scott

i personally wanted to fight with revan i dont even care about the exile, but it would have been awesome to discover the "true sith" first hand etc. i mean just because in an rpg you cant fit endless crappy stories like in an mmo, doesnt mean the storyline it does have would suck. quite the opposite, they could fit a huge storyline and quests etc in kotor 3 on xbox 360 and todays pc's. look at mass effect and elder scrolls oblivion, theyve ot huge storyline that go on for days. and with the 360 we could get downloads for new gear and locations and quests etc. and the pc version can always be modded like the old ones. im thinking of getting kotor 1 and 2 since i sold them and my xbox to afford my 360 and dont want to play them on it because they wont be as good. just so i can have some real kotor action and have some fun using mods etc. i have no idea why kotor 3 wouldnt be made, us fans want it, and the company to develop it will make a huge jackpot and win awards.

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#40 hughami
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any other thoughts or opinions?
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#41 FirstDiscovery
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With an MMO, you have to pay monthly With an MMO, it sucks up all your other gaming time I think the winner is clear...
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#42 hughami
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]With an MMO, you have to pay monthly With an MMO, it sucks up all your other gaming time I think the winner is clear...

...........kotor 3 :D ! im thinking of sending them (lucasarts) a letter saying outright that we want kotor 3, we should all send them complaints until they give in :) .
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#44 hughami
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is obsidian making kotor 3? http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/680/680220p1.html just copy and paste that url code. how do you make links on here? on other forums i could paste something like that in my message and it would automatically turn into a link in blue.
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#45 moose_knuckler
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Keep in mind like I posted earlier (and I'm sure most of you know) that just because they're making TOR, doesn't mean KOTOR 3 is gone for good. They leave about 500 years after KOTOR storyline to make up their own TOR storyline. If they're stupid enough to not make KOTOR 3 (God forbid) they'd probably have to announce that no other KOTOR game shall be made just so they'd stop getting the hate mail or anything like that.
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#46 DJ_Magneto
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I would have preferred an actual single-player game that continued the unfinished story rather than another stupid WoW clone.UT_Wrestler
I thought that the The Old Republic was a continuation of the KOTOR story in MMO form.
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#47 hughami
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Keep in mind like I posted earlier (and I'm sure most of you know) that just because they're making TOR, doesn't mean KOTOR 3 is gone for good. They leave about 500 years after KOTOR storyline to make up their own TOR storyline. If they're stupid enough to not make KOTOR 3 (God forbid) they'd probably have to announce that no other KOTOR game shall be made just so they'd stop getting the hate mail or anything like that.moose_knuckler
did you check out that article, i know its not a link but you can copy and paste the url. anyways i was on the tor forums beetching about it and they al said that tor is going to replace kotor, and that the devs themselves said that its the actual sequel to kotor 2 :( . i just hope to god that isnt really true.
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#48 stike22
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There are rumors saying there will be a KOTOR 3 but well nobody know if its completely true...all thats known is they are making the online one and its quite annoying because it looks great and I really don't want to pay just to play a game...Its been ages since KOTOR2 and I keep thinking when will they make a new one it would be brilliant on X360 now...they finally make one and its online only...*. Honestly thats annoying. Really would like to have a game like KOTOR again, its entertaining and the story is decent, plus it highly replayable. I think they are making a KOTOR 3 but we won't see it for ages until the online one is finished...probably next years E3.
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#49 hughami
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yeah if it was on 360 it would be awesome. how do you insert links on here it is a real pain in the ass on here, i want to show you a link to an article.