oh dear god, you seem to have no clue on what you're talking about. I don't know where you get your idea of homophobic remarks from, because it CLEARLY isn't from IT music. What you seem to forget is that we''re discussing hip-hop here...you know...the genre that is FAMOUS for being quite homophobic :| ?
Degrading women? Have you listened to You Never Know? Have you ever heard a rapper say something like he'd wish he "could replace every raped virgin's broken hymen"? Not only do you seem to forget that women degredation is common in hip-hop music regardless, but you ironically try to come up with lame reasonings why IT wasn't as good as...well...GUCCI MANE. Yeah, he isn't any of those at all...:|
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Like I stated before I hadn't listened to those albums in 2-3 years, and was going off of why I didn't like them from what I remembered. My memory apparently served me wrong. I thought I remembered him using excessive homophobic slurs and degraded women a lot, I'm not sure why I had gotten that impression. I think I remembered the times he goes over the top with the braggodocio stuff ("I'll beat you until you're a vegetable/and wake up in the hospital covered in poisonous chemicals/in a fetal position with your head sewn to your testicles" for example) as being littered with said slurs and degradations. I was wrong. And I understand that rap is greatly homophobic and degrades women like no other. They reason I held it against IT is that he is clearly a smart guy, and he deals with some complex subject matter and makes great rhymes. However I don't think a rapper as intelligent as Immortal Technique needs to use homophobic slurs and degrade women, he's more clever than that and he knocks himself down a peg when he throws some slur in the song (granted he does it much more rarely than I remembered). That's why I would hold it against a rapper like IT and not Gucci, because Gucci is clearly not half as intellgent as IT.
To be honest, I don't expect nearly as much from Gucci compared what I do from an MC like IT. IT is a next level MC compared to Gucci, Gucci just makes music I find myself wanting to listen to more than IT because it's more fun.I had interpreted the thread as who makes music you listen to more often? IT is clearly a better rapper, his music just doesn't always reflect that (THe 3rd World for examples)
EDIT: I just finished Revolutionary Vol. 2, he is definitely more refined on this album than he was before. These beats are still god-awful though, so boring. He makes up for it mostly with his lyrics but some of these beats are almost song-killers, no matter what he says. You Never Know is a great track, a story that I could find myself listening to much more than Dance with the Devi. I don't remember ever hearing it before.
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