[QUOTE="Arhazard"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

How was it groundbreaking?

Please explain.

It was a great FPS, but certainly not a groundbreaking - ala genre revolutionising one.... far from it.

(shooter genre as a collective)

skrat_01

I personally really dislike the sequels, but the original Halo did push the genre a step forward. It had an awesome sci-fi protracted storyline (something that the sequels absolutely fail in delivering) involving some really cool aliens and godly team-based AI.

The whole 'battlefield sandbox' idea it provided was something that was quite new to the genre in 2001. We'd seen things closely resembling it in Half-Life, but nothing on the scale of driving vehicles through squadrons of aliens that are fighting on multiple sides at once. The player could pretty much choose how he/she could fight the battles.

If anything Halo commercialized the FPS genre. Before it were the hardcore games and classics like Goldeneye and the PC greats like Quake and Counter Strike. Halo brought FPS to the masses.

1. Yes it had great a.i, though it wasn't an 'a.i revolution' in shooters - HL did that in 98'

2. Yes it had a good story, though Shock 2, (arguable HL), even bungies Marathon series (others if i can remember) had better stories - and came before hand.

3. Halo CE was NOT a battlefield sandbox game. It was a completelylinear FPS. Battlefield sandbox games that came out before Halo CE were Tribes 1 1997, Codename Eagle 1998or9, Battlezone 1997or6, Tribes 2 early 2001, and possible the ultimate military battlefield sandbox game conceived - Operation Flashpoint in mid 2001.

4. These games all had vehicles and yes there was lots of enemy plowing - made more difficult in tribes 1 and 2 though as everyone had jetpacks.

5. The choice in Halo CEs missions is actually extremely limited compared to the other games - the games design makes it that way. Decision making in the game is no different to your usual FPS - compared to a game like Operation Flashpoint, Battlezone or Tribes which threw huge amounts of options of how to approach situations and fight, Halo ce felt like quake.

6. No the FPS genre was already EXTREMELY popular before it. Doom spurred its popularity, Quake, Unreal and Half Life - and a huge range of others increased it even more, and built up online communities, and Goldeneye + Medal of Honour dominated the console scene. Halo CE did sell well though, and the Xbox wouldn't have succeeded without it. It did increase the popularity of the fps genre on consoles even more no doubt, but saying it 'popularised' fps games, let alone console FPS games is laughable.

Not saying Halo is a bad game - its far far from it, it just didn't do these things of which you speak

Well, don't fail to remember that Halo: Combat Evolved was respected and honoured. In addition, the sequels are amid the most prosperous and triumphant video games ever released. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be staggered if it turned out to be groundbreaking in those days.

It got a 9.6 because it was a GREAT game. The SP and Co-op were great, and the MP (despite the netcode flaws) was still fun in general.

Haters can keep hating all they want.

Donkey_Puncher

Yes, that's correct. It certainly didn't do it as a result of the graphics. It's a diverting video game.

This fellow is very likely never going to quit. We'll just have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

I will go so far as to say this.... Gears of War 2 will be the second biggest selling title on the 360, and I fully believe that.

Here are some facts:

The game has tremendous word of mouth.

The game still sells for $50 on the used shelves in Gamestop

The game still has a large number of players playing online every day

I'm not going to try and predict what SSB or MGS4 will do, however, I have a feeling the GeOW2 will reach near Halo 3 hype levels, and will have sales numbers anywhere from 50% to 75% of those numbers of Halo 3 on the first day. I even bet they have midnight openings for the game. Watch and see. :D

yo_foo

Gears will not reach Halo 3 Hype levels! The original was out on 360 - visual improvements will not even be changed. Neither the gameplay elements. Which means you are really better off playing the original instead of the second.

:'(

No, it won't, in all likelihood. Nevertheless, we'll just have to wait and see. Perhaps it does.

Hey if Bungie is selling so many copies why would they stop making the game? If I'm correct it is the best selling xbox360 game so far.

NFS102

Yes, it is.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]nothing really. gears 2 alone will destroy the ps3's whole lineup.shoeman12

Except it won't. :roll:

it makes sense. gears sold more than any ps3 game, had goty's, higher scores than ps3 games. gears 2 can only get better.

Perhaps it did. Nonetheless, I think that you're hyperbolizing when you're saying that it intends to demolish all the games on Playstation 3.

? didnt resistance 1 sell over 3 million? and it was a launch title so not as many people had a ps3 as there were 360s cause it had already been out for a year. so why is it a joke that resistance 2 is going up against it?VendettaRed07

No. MotorStorm is the number-one game on Playstation 3 at the moment. I think that it has surpassed three million copies.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

geow reviews were based only on graphics. Sometimes graphics can cover up all other aspects of a game. It clearly didnt have a goty gameplay, goty sound, goty mp, etc.

DuDisNow

You clearly havent played the game yourself. It had great sound as well as great gameplay, no other game before it nailed cover-gameplay the way GeOW did.

Well, it presents a test of one's abilities.

As a 360 owner and Metal Gear fan I can say that the 360 doesn't seem to have anything coming out this year that will hold a candle to MGS4.stevenk4k5

What about Gears of War 2, the follow-up to the well-liked and prosperous video game on Xbox 360?

I loved Gears,its a great game,thats why it scored high.xgraderx

I agree with you.