As well as higher res, better shadows, more af and better textures.

BF 4 is a completely different game on next gen. Diablo 3 is 1080p 60fps on PS 4.

Why spend same amount of money to play inferior versions of multiplats?

Even Madden looks a lot better on next gen

If you want to continue enjoying the console experience you will be forced to upgrade to a new console at some point.

The majority of 360/ps3 support will probably drop before the consoles drop below $400.

It really makes no sense to continue playing on the last gen consoles when you can get the better console versions of games for same price.

If you hold out really long then you might save $50 on the console purchase.

Would you rather wait another 2 years for a possible $50 price drop or start playing much better versions of multiplats now?

PS 4 launched with almost twice as many new, non remastered games as PS 3.

PS 4 now has about 100 games. Did any past consoles every have that many games 10 months after launch?

The amount of work it took to port doesn't hinder the development of new games. Plus all the non PS 3 owning PS 4 owners get to play the game now.

Would you like to compare GTA V sales to Starcraft 2 instead? We can also use gen 6 GTA sales to prove that the game would have sold almost as well had GTA V been on just 1 console.

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@1fragleft said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@1fragleft said:

PC gamers greatly outnumber console gamers.

Holy cow, so PC alone exponentially beats out 6 systems in gamers count?

Christ! Truly first place at SW. I'll be certain to use this graph in future PC first place facts threads/posts. Thank you Cranler. You are a man of goodness.

Btw can you give me a link to that graph? The actual site it came from: Thanks!

blablabla cranler balblabla

You got a link for that chart? Like the article it came from.

You constantly complained about my roommate to mods and you want my help?

Then again you can't be serious, anyone with an inkling of internet usage could find the site.

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@1fragleft said:

PC gamers greatly outnumber console gamers.

Holy cow, so PC alone exponentially beats out 6 systems in gamers count?

Christ! Truly first place at SW. I'll be certain to use this graph in future PC first place facts threads/posts. Thank you Cranler. You are a man of goodness.

Btw can you give me a link to that graph? The actual site it came from: Thanks!

PC gamers far outnumber console yet consolites dictate the actions of the publishers. It makes pc gamers look bad though when pc games sell so poorly. 160k sales is all it takes to reach the top of the Steam sales charts

I'm his roommate and I happen to have the same outlook.

Do you think people who enjoy the console experience would switch to pc or quit gaming if there were only 1 console?

In Dec of 2012 Ubi reported 7 million sales, the game was selling so well retailers ordered 5 million more copies by Feb of 2013.

Well Divinity certainly seemed like a big deal on this forum. It was big enough to make it to the top of the steam sales chart.

Infamous Second Son sold 1 million in 9 days.

Where are your Fable numbers? I was under the impression they sold about 3 million copies each.

People who want the console experience will buy whatever console they deem best and buy games for it. At this time there are 5 active consoles to choose from. This means that there would need to be 5x as many console gamers as there are pc gamers for those console platforms to have a chance at beating the pc.

If there were only 1 console would those consolites quit gaming, go to pc or simply buy that one console?

6th gen GTA is a great example to be used for getting an idea of what would happen if there were one console since the PS 2 dominated. Almost all GTA sales were on PS 2 because that's the console most people owned. Last gen the xbox brand was much more competitiove so we saw GTA sales split more evenly.

Assassins Creed is considered a console centric game while Starcraft 2 is a pc game through and through.

PC gamers greatly outnumber console gamers.

People who want to play on computer have one platform to choose from, people who want to play on console have 5 active platforms to choose from.

Only valve multiplats sell better on pc.

I said TLOU sold 7 million, I said nothing of TLOU Remaster.

Uncharted franchise was at 17 million sales as of March 2012. So that's almost 6 million sales per installment.

God of War is at 21 million sales.

Halo has 50 million sales while one of the pc's biggest franchises Civ is at 21 million.

It would be nice to see sales breakdowns on multiplats like Tombraider, Bioshock, Arkham etc. i would imagine the console version sales are much higher. Especially when you consider that one of the pc's biggest exclusives of the year Divinity sold only 160k copies yet that was enough to put it at the top of the steam sales charts. Console games that sell with those kinds of numbers would be at the bottom of the npd charts.

On the bright side it's probably the oversaturation of pc games that kills individual pc game sales.

You think Ubi doesn't know the digital sales numbers of it's own games?

Assassins Creed 3 sold 12 million copies in the first 2 months. Starcraft 2 was one of the most anticipated pc games of all time and sold 4.5 million after 5 months

In light of this it's safe to say that the bulk of those Assassins Creed sales are from consoles.