[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

If the tech is there why not.... chances are the NGP will cost the same as the 3DS or at most $50 more. Not all games have to be console ports, and be big budget titles. Expect the NGP to have its own unique game titles.... as it has more options for controls now with the rear touchpad, and touch screen.

SaltyMeatballs

$350!? That's far too high! It should be no more than $250, $300 at the most, especially if they want it to succeed.

Apparently it will be unveiled at E3! Can't wait!

Here you said something in this direction:

[QUOTE="7suarez7"]

The PSP is nowhere near the 3DS kid. The 3DS has yet to produce a game with blurry textures or edgy PS1 graphics. The PSP is hardly even closer to the PS2 let alone the 3dS which is more powerful than a Wii. Also, how can you compare a game that's not even out yet on the 3DS's 1st year with something that was out in the PSP's 6th year?

ArchoNils2

And no, depth does not increase graphics. And as I said, we go to much OT here, let's go back to the topic

Hardly even close =/ nowhere near.

Anyway this is the last thing I'll post regarding the 3DS on this thread (hopefully):

CPU: Nintendo 1048 0H ARM CPU
Architecture and clock speed are unknown.

GPU: PICA200
Clock speed unknown.

There are two different models of the PICA200. The latest one is much more powerful and efficient (what Nintendo is using).

2008 revision:
100mhz, 40 million triangles/second, 400 million pixel performance/second.
400mhz, 160 million triangles/second, 1600 million pixel performance/second.

Other features:
Four programmable vertex/pixel pipelines (interchangeable)
2xAA (Full Scene)
MipMap
Bilinear Filtering
MAESTRO-2G Technology

The real powerhouse of the 3DS is its huge library of shaders. Even though it uses a fixed function OpenGL ES 1.1 which is quite old, extensions from the MAESTRO-2G brings it up to Direct X 9 ~ Direct X 10.1 GPU's levels. Its shader architecture out****s Gamecube, Xbox and Wii BIG TIME.

The PICA200 when clocked at its maximum performance can render more geometry and have a higher pixel fill rate than the original Xbox and Wii. This explains why developers said its capabilities exceed the Wii.

However, going by recent developer comments and earlier speculation, 3DS is not running at its full potential.

RAM: 128mb FCRAM
It's speculated 96mb is reserved for gaming and the remaining 32mb is for the OS. Sources say it has a data rate of 3.2 GB/sec which is double that of DDR2.

This puts the memory above Wii level.

VRAM: Unknown.

Conclusion: Power wise; 3DS is a Xbox with a Gamecube duct taped to it. Even though it has the potential to go even higher, the handheld is probably underclocked for whatever reason Nintendo saw fit.

3DS has an advanced shader architecture that you couldn't find in Gamecube, Xbox or Wii. It's this trump card that makes 3DS games capable of near to 360/PS3 visuals (on its own resolution of course).

Seriously dude the PSP isn't on the same league as the 3DS, but obviously the NGP will be more powerful than the 3DS. Still, the way the 3DS has been treated on here is appalling. The graphics are actually quite good.

[QUOTE="7suarez7"]

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

have both here side by side.... so yeah they are very comparable, dont need any pictures to tell me whats what.

ArchoNils2

Your credibility = 0.

What games have you got on them right now, what games are you comparing? Is the 3D on?

lol? How does depth change the graphics? I guess I was right saying that you're just blown away by the 3D effect to actually comprare the graphics oO And his cedibility should be rather high since he agrees with most here, you're the only one saying that the act. 3DS games look much better than PSP games and that the PSP looks nowhere near PS2

Where did I say the PSP looks nowhere near the PS2? Also, 3D adds to the resolution giving it sharper images.

[QUOTE="7suarez7"]

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

I dont think the 3DS is miles better than the PSP in terms of graphics, and yes I do own both. The graphics on the system are pretty impressive on select titles DOA looking almost on par at least the characters with the xbox version of the game. But even the PSP can holds its own.... Look at games like Tekken 6, or MGS peace walker, wipeout.... All also look very impressive, I do give the edge to the 3DS, but its a very slight one.

GTSaiyanjin2

I posted some pics of Tekken and MGS on PSP, they look like crap compared to 3DS. The PSP was impressive but we are in 2011 and the 3DS has much better visuals as it SHOULD. The PSP nowadays gives me eyebleeds, the graphics are very rough and edgy.

have both here side by side.... so yeah they are very comparable, dont need any pictures to tell me whats what.

Your credibility = 0.

What games have you got on them right now, what games are you comparing? Is the 3D on?

[QUOTE="7suarez7"]

*some pictures*

ArchoNils2

both games aren't released yet and anyone can take pictures of rather bad looking game son any system, that doesn't prove anything. If you want to comprare, comprare the best released games with each other and that way the 3DS doesn't look much better than the PSP. As I said a lot of times, show me anything on the 3DS that "looks much better" than Crisis Core. I don't really trust anything unreleased after the first vid of Killzone which was supposed to be real time but it turned out to be pre-rendered. Also everyone who said something about this comparison in this thread is on my side. Give it up already and let's get back to the topic, it's about the power of the NGP, not a PSP vs. 3DS thread

Rayman 3D looks much better than Crisis Core (minus the CGI)and the 3DS has only just released so of course there won't be AMAZING looking games on it yet. Also Zelda is pretty much done and those pics are final, why shouldn't we be allowed to use those? It looks better than anything on PSP, so does Street fighter (looks on par with 360), Dead or alive etc. It's silly comparing the PSP to the 3DS and rightly so because the PSP is old tech which was impressive back in the day.