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#1 Alberto1978
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Plus a lawsuit (which may also affect the FIA). While I'm not an expert on the contracts and laws surrounding situations like this, I would be surprised if they covered personal harm because of such a mistake.
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#2 Alberto1978
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As a fan of Rosberg: FFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

Good job from everyone else.

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#3 Alberto1978
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It's very likely they will. But it means a lot less since McLaren own errors played a bigger role than FI's improvements.

Not that they don't deserve any credit, they've done a great work so far this season, both the teams and drivers. I hope they are bought by somebody, get a financial push and change the horrible name and color.

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#4 Alberto1978
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The set-ups are irregardless of the point, kipi19

Yes and no. There's not a single piece of engineering equipment that isn't designed to work under a definite set of conditions. 

Of course, when talking about something like tyres you can expect them to work under a very wide set of ones. That's why the tyres we buy (as most of the products) are designed to resist a very wide range of misuses. 

But the thing is, those tyres are tested EXTENSIVELY, and that's a luxury Pirelli didn't have, because of the oh-so-stupid FIA. The simple fact that they are not allowed to test the CURRENT set up (a 2013 car) shows how silly the whole situation is.

Also remember, the tyres are so soft in the first place because the FIA wanted them that way.

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#5 Alberto1978
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While I don't think Pirelli is completely innocent of this chaos, truth is, both the teams and the FIA are partly to blame.

First, Pirelli actually wanted to change the tyres before Silverstone, but the teams didn't allow it. Secondly, it's clear that the teams have been misusing them. While that's nothing new, Pirelli's tyres being less resistant to misuse doesn't change the fact that there was misuse in the first place. Tyres are designed for left and right sides for a reason, not decoration.

While one can argue that it was Pirelli's fault for not banning it before, they had no way to know the effects since the FIA has such stupid rules about testing. So not only does the FIA want softer tyres in order to boost spectacle (which in itself involves a risk) but they are incredibly idiotic about their testing policies (not on 2013 cars, only a team at the time, complete lack of transparency, etc).

This mess is more the fault of the near-sightness of everybody involved.

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#6 Alberto1978
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1. Yep.

2.  Hm. As an expectator, no, since I wanted to see them race, but after 4 incidents, I would have done it, since the risks were no longer tolerable. I would have been quite angry, tough :P

3. Hope so, he was much more talented than most of "the rest" of the grid. I'd be glad to see him back.

4.  Considering the terrible season McLaren is doing, I would expect so. I wish some serious company would buy Force India, rename it and repaint those cars (both the name and the colors are ugly) and make of it a top team. They only need that extra financial push, and a talented driver with experience.

5.  I love you Redders, I really do, but what kind of question is that? There is no question,of course they are!

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#7 Alberto1978
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[QUOTE="Alberto1978"]Just back from Silverstone. What a race! And such a nice atmosphere. Shame I missed all the fun here :Psambob530

Nice atmosphere? Where did you sit? :P my bit (Luffield) booed Vettel for not having a tyre blowout and had a standing ovation upon his retirement, which for me in my Vettel cap and RBR shirt was a bit awkward (although that was to be expected I guess)...

I was in Village, and the people there were very civil, I assume mostly because that's the only damn place where threre isn't a decent screen nearby :P (though, I admit that added a certain spice to the whole thing).

About people booing Vettel, I'm more than used to people booing my favorite pilots, I lived that during the Schumi era, then more than once with Alonso, and now Vettel. When you realize they booed him because he's destroying their favorite pilots, I can't help but laugh :P

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Just back from Silverstone. What a race! And such a nice atmosphere. Shame I missed all the fun here :P
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#9 Alberto1978
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Dear Redders, quick question, why is Button your favorite driver, and not Hamilton? Is it something about their personalities, or do you consider him simply more talented/a more complete driver?

Not that I think there's something wrong with that, it's just plain ol' curiosity :p

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#10 Alberto1978
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While that was definitely a BSish move from RB, that's hardly THAT bad. In every job there are times when your boss will just **** on you. If that had happened way more often I would get the "all the BS he had to endure" attitude, but if that is what we're talking about, I simply can't see it as something THAT out of the ordinary.

Besides, the results of that championship (and the two next to follow) ended up proving that RB were far more right than wrong in favoring Vettel. He had the chance to prove them wrong, in fact, he did it in that very GP, but then he just let it go.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree it was a BSish move, but Webber had all the chances afterwards to stand tall and prove with his results that he deserved far better, but he simply didn't.

Reminds me a bit of Massa (we don't need to name examples here do we), another pretty cool dude I have a soft spot for, but this is a sport that rewards talent and results over being a nice guy, and has always been that way.