[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] couldn't help but ... even though this post has a trollish tone to it, its kinda true.gaming25

Also, when things get hectic you can end up getting more kill assists then actual kills, especially if you stay with your squad. In cases like that its easy to have a poor k/d ratio but still help the team by taking objectives and suppressing the enemy. So I also think that k/d ratio in BF3 is an overrated stat

Its been said numerous times: CSS. That game was brutal if you didnt put alot of hours of practice into it. The competition seemingly only ever played that game, and it showed when you could go entire rounds without a kill. It was still fun enough to keep you coming back for more punishment, because when you actually did start to get some kills it felt like a true accomplishment

COD will most likely me around for the forseeable future. It is the new Madden. Activision found a formula (noobified, easily accessible shooter) that can be milked for a long time. A better question is how much longer can they milk the same outdated engines with every "new" game.

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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

Why would the characters even need to be memorable for the game to hypothetically be good? Wasnt tatsunoko vs capcom a good game even though no one outside of hard core anime fans knew any tatsunoko characters?

Not saying the game would be good or not because no one can know that for sure, but to say that the game wouldnt be good because only nintendo has the "iconic recognizable" characters to pull it off is just wrong. Now with that said that link in the OP isnt very convincing and I doubt this game is being developed.

charizard1605

A) Not sure what "whimsy" is, but prior to the first SSB when had nintendo tried anything that was even remotely similiar to what SSB is? Ill answer that: Never

B) So characters like mario and luigi which hadnt done much more than run and jump prior to the first SSB game would translate better than cole or ratchet?

C) When did the discussion degrade further into one about sales? And where did I myself ever say anything about sales?

The point is that you dont absolutely need a ton of iconic and memorable characters to make a good game in the vein of a SSB. If they did hypothetically make this game the original roster (a la the original SSB) would be relatively small, and the bulk of the marketing would feature the most iconic characters I.E. Kratos, Ratchet etc. Just like the bulk of marketing for SSB wouldnt include ness or capt falcon (characters that i admittedly hadnt even heard of prior to playing SSB and ended up being 2 of my favorite characters)

Why would the characters even need to be memorable for the game to hypothetically be good? Wasnt tatsunoko vs capcom a good game even though no one outside of hard core anime fans knew any tatsunoko characters?

Not saying the game would be good or not because no one can know that for sure, but to say that the game wouldnt be good because only nintendo has the "iconic recognizable" characters to pull it off is just wrong. Now with that said that link in the OP isnt very convincing and I doubt this game is being developed.

[QUOTE="WyteCollaCrim"] MW3 isnt even being praised, like i said before, the game is so good it praises itself. When i play COD, no one camps, if you camped, you wouldn't get any kills, you wouldnt complete the objectives, i play snd dom and hq, those are the fastest paced fps games modes, bf3 has nothing like it in terms of action. MW3 will be GOTY and another 10, the people love what the people love, and the people love mw3 not CAMPERfield 3.Wasdie

Do we even play the same CoD? Tons of people camp. It's half the damn game. MW2 was the worst offender, camp to get the killstreak and then keep stacking kills. It was pathetic. Black Ops isn't as bad, but there is still plenty of camping.

CoD's gameplay is also a snails pace compared to arena shooters.

BF3's action doesn't come from the ability to snap quickly to your enemy and shoot them in about 2-3 shots and kill them, it's about largeer sale action and destruction. Planes flying overhead, choppers gunning people down, big tank battles with 8 tanks on the field, building crumbling around you, and players using tactics.

MW3 will not be GotY or a 10. Also if you're judging BF3 off of the beta, you're really wrong. That's like judging Black Ops from hardcore TDM on Nuketown. It's a terrible representation of the real game.

good luck explaining that to the kiddies

for me SA is still a better game than gta4 since i play SA from time to time and i sold gta4 the day i finished it.

legol1

same here...after the initial "wow" factor wore off after a few days it was like a chore to finish the game imo. And when I was done I never even touched it again

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I guarantee that once MW3 comes out the BF3 community will be alot better and 80% of the campers will move back to their FPS of preference. Leaving the players who want to actually complete the objectives rather than camp and brag about their k/d ratio while their team loses a match in 10 minutes

WyteCollaCrim

As the immortal John Mcenroe would say: YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!! :roll:

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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I been playing CoD since CoD4 and i never ever complained about camping, heck i dont even see campers as much as i saw on BF3 or any DICE game like medal of honor and the camp fest it had, in BF3 people dont move they just camp and at times u die the moment you spawn even, with call of duty if someone is camping you can exactly tell where that person is and go back, throw a noobtube/RPG/granade/clymore and the camper is gone with BF3 for example and from the beta it was very hard to tell where the sniper killed you from and even more harder to see, some camped under the train, under the grass, not to mention the annoying flash lights. CoD> all FPSs in my opinion but im still getting BF3 once it hit very cheap in price just to fly me some jets. BF series is just like any other FPS. nothing yet is close to touching the godly FPS that is CoD ( imo again )

razgriz_101

You need to play some Quake 3 Arena, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2, and Unreal Tounry 2k4 if you think CoD is the best FPS out there. You'll be very suprised how shallow CoD is when compared to those games. Unless you're one of those who thinks unlocks are depth.

All of those games take a ton of skill to be good at, and dont throw massive letters and flashing your winner when you do something like get so many kills with a gun.Unreal did but they didnt really mean anything at all lol and the announcer was hillarious i've strangely got M-M-M-Monster kill as my text message tone.