This just sounds like denial with no backup explanation. still a good game series just think it's racist.No.
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[QUOTE="Containmomentum"]Now some of you might not agree with me, but I hope you all share your opinions on my worst controllers. I am speaking for when i played them during there time only. I also will give my honest opinion now and back then which are pretty much the same regardless of games i enjoyed using the controller for. This not a least to great list, more like a timeline list.
The NES controller is just not good at all. The D-pad is a mixed bag with me, but the Face button loose their feel w2ay to quick and soon it starts felling your smashing the buttons do do actions instead of pressing them, the shape was a god awful Idea and I have no idea who green lighted it. The Start and Selects are stiff as heck and always feel you have to press a bit hard.
People used to actually hurt people over playing a 2600 instead of this because they though it was Ideal for group play and was more competitive back when i was a lad. But uh, the button, all the buttons on the outside die way to quick and you had to, in some cases, use Heavy gloves to add enough pressure to get them to work easier with out smashing. Also, some of the issues you can see by just looking at it.
The Master System Controller. It's better than the NES controller, but that's not saying much. For one the bars on the right cram the button pushing area even for those with average size fingers, which is a tad annoying, the D-pad is a bit loose (in some cases) and is not exactly precise all the time, especially in games like wonder boy. more irritating than bad, but i put them together.
The commodore 64 controller. it fells very cheap and thrown together, the stick feels like it will break, it quickly adter short usage time starts being inaccurate, the box the stick is on feels cheap, and the button often starts to stick and get stuck often.
The SNES controller. Now wait a second, the D-pad is very stiff and does not work very well for action or arcade games at all, especially faster ones. the D-pad has a slow reaction time. it annoys me to death in many games. The Face button are fine, although feel cheap and feel like you are slightly trying to press them instead of them naturally pressing. Gets more like that after extended use. The Shoulder button. They quickly lose response speed faster than any other should buttons i have seen (except maybe the original PSP and SLIGHTLY the Dreamcast) For a system. However, this depends on the game. In some games, it treats you pressed the button after you stopped pressing it, and in others require you to put unnecessary pressure. These both become more of a problem after extended use or just not really using the controller for awhile. not to mention the controller feels cheap.
The CD-I controller. the D-pad randomly gets stuck/stiff very quickly. it becomes a very big problem with extended use (yes, there are a few CD-I games that are good enough for extended use.) The controller feels like, uh, styrofoam. The buttons? Any game going faster than negative 6 miles and hour, and I bet you would not be able to beat it. It's just inaccurate, and this, after extended use, just makes playing game son it difficult.
I have never had to replace a controller as many times as this. Maybe i was just unlucky, but after recently last year where i had to order another one, that would be since i got it about a decade ago what? the 19th time i had to replace the controller no exaggeration. This has got to be, unless i keep getting bad pads, is just stupid. At first, eveything seems fine, but man oh man. the D-pad for anything that isn't a adventure game, a Click game, a Virtual Novel game, or maybe in some cases, and rpg, is almost impossible. Impossible. If you were to play a racing game with this controller, and the right turn was 14 seconds away, holding right since you saw the turn and even hoit the brake twice would still have you miss the turn and crash. Times where you press direction fast quickly stiffs it. The face button are abysmal. Or to be more correct, the top 3. They are loose as heck, sometimes randomly get stuck inside i have to shake the controller. The run button and select button. the Riun button, and the Select button very, very quickly, become so where you have to slightly PRESS AS HARD AS YOU CAN ON THEM WHILE SLIGHTLY BENDING THE CONTROLLER INWARD TO WORK SOMETIMES. Why? Because nec must have hired generic company A, or the CD-I designers to make the reliability of this controller. The bottom 3 button have slow reaction times, sometimes taken 1 full second, and trust me, in the very few games I can play or understand in this system, you WILL NOTICE THIS, and t will annoy you. While it feels a bit mixed with how it feels in the hand, while holding the controller seems well crafted. That must be the part Nec did themselves. ARRGHHH!!! WHYYY?
The Dual Shock. Yes, we enjoyed using it but it was a bad controller. The Start button. In fact, the DS1 and DS2 have this problem. Using the Start button to much makes the start button go out way to fast. In some cases, it will either require you to Press down or it will have delayed reactions. or both. but that's a small problem right? the D-pad is bad. I don't give a crap what you say. Is it the worst? maybe not in design, but with how it works it's at the bottom. 3D games, overhead games, heck, or any game where you don't only use 2 direction is annoying as heck to play. because whether you are pressing the pad in a circle motion to turn around, whether trying to quickly move diagonal to dodge something, whether you have a game where you have to press te buttons fast, the controller either will not read you, incorrectly read you, or delay. The back 2 shoulder buttons often later get a bit stiff or sometimes get a bit sticky, and those 2 easily get stuff through the cracks making them stick even more. The front Shoulder buttons feel odd to press especialy when you have to do it quickly or press many times. it feels unfinished, like you are about to break the button or the controller. The controller has handles that are ok, While it may fit in your hands or what not, the controller, whether you like it or not, was not designed with finger space in mind. I'm not talking DC type space, but everything is tight and crammed together in design. which yes, it doesn't effect me that much and some might not at all but it''s still there in design and does alienate people.
The N64 controller. many enjoy the system and those who really did a lot will probably ask why this is here ignoring the fact the controller is bad. it feels like i will break it no matter how i hold it. The N64 controller Analog stick is not that good. I don't care how much you like the games, the Analog stick is finnicky. Sometimes doing what your not trying to do. Also, not much room to actually use the analog effectively. The space you move the stick is too small. Also, the analog stick after use gets like engraved in the controller or seems in some cases to just stop being accurate and messing up movements. It's also very easy for the controller to get sticky with all the area that can get clogged up through the cracks. The shape of the controller is debatable for some, but i think it's clear that unless you have 3 hands or an octopus hybrid, having the controller designed like this not only limits gameplay options, but makes it so that you can't use the full potential of the controller because of how it limits itself. you can't use the whole controller in anyway at all. The D-pad is very stiff. it feels like they didn't really make so that it feels free when you use it. The Shoulder buttons also quickly start to stick after use. Not long term use either. Which along with weird ways of holding the controller, and if they use the D-pad, just makes some games irritating. The C-buttons in some cases have sometimes a very short but noticeable delay after some time.
let me tell you the first thing I said when i saw the Dreamcast Controller. Why the hell is the start button all the damn way at the bottom of the controller? Whether you want to run something, or use something or pause because you want to or you might be getting your but kicked in a game, or any other reason, this controller makes it hard. Another thing. the lack of buttons, too much space, and too much unused space. Dual analog or not, there's way too much unused space. The Facebuttons, they are too spaced out. This would be the only time i would want at least a small, small deay with button reactions on this controller, because games that force fast presses? Or almost instant next to each other presses? yeah, good luck trying to smash all those button together, not to mention the cheap feel, and the odd shape of the controller having the bottom 2 face button sometimes have random stick. The VMU memory card? It makes the controller seem more like it's own console then a controller. not to mention yes, the VMU, all it does in most cases is put an ICON of the game you are playing MOST OF THE TIME. Yet, they seem to have forgotten that it was a memory card an it has like no space becase of it. The VMU itself has very sticky button and that can happen really quick. i suggest just using it as a memory card in general. Again, the cheap feel is backed up the fact that the end connector that goes into the machine, and the face button can easily, and I mean easily be damaged. Very easily. You better have carpet or have a table made of styrofoam. The D-pad while not to bad of a feel, is very loose when you start out with how precise it is. in fact, this may be one of the like 3 consoles, where extensive use actually makes the D-pad BETTER. Well that's it off the top of my head from what i have used legacy wise. hopefully not too long eh, haha. Yeah...Emerald_Warrior
So which ones do you actually like? You seemed to have disliked a good portion of most of the controllers. What have you got left here? Atari 2600 joystick (which is the stiffest joystick ever made), Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, XBox, and Gamecube.
There's a lot of controllers left. like the DS2, while similar, fixed a few of the main problems. however, I have not formulated a top favorite controllers yet, so you will have to get back to me on the ones I liked the most. Which i will probably put, in the brother topic. The NES controller is just not good at all. The D-pad is a mixed bag with me, but the Face button loose their feel w2ay to quick and soon it starts felling your smashing the buttons do do actions instead of pressing them, the shape was a god awful Idea and I have no idea who green lighted it. The Start and Selects are stiff as heck and always feel you have to press a bit hard. People used to actually hurt people over playing a 2600 instead of this because they though it was Ideal for group play and was more competitive back when i was a lad. But uh, the button, all the buttons on the outside die way to quick and you had to, in some cases, use Heavy gloves to add enough pressure to get them to work easier with out smashing. Also, some of the issues you can see by just looking at it. The Master System Controller. It's better than the NES controller, but that's not saying much. For one the bars on the right cram the button pushing area even for those with average size fingers, which is a tad annoying, the D-pad is a bit loose (in some cases) and is not exactly precise all the time, especially in games like wonder boy. more irritating than bad, but i put them together. The commodore 64 controller. it fells very cheap and thrown together, the stick feels like it will break, it quickly adter short usage time starts being inaccurate, the box the stick is on feels cheap, and the button often starts to stick and get stuck often. The SNES controller. Now wait a second, the D-pad is very stiff and does not work very well for action or arcade games at all, especially faster ones. the D-pad has a slow reaction time. it annoys me to death in many games. The Face button are fine, although feel cheap and feel like you are slightly trying to press them instead of them naturally pressing. Gets more like that after extended use. The Shoulder button. They quickly lose response speed faster than any other should buttons i have seen (except maybe the original PSP and SLIGHTLY the Dreamcast) For a system. However, this depends on the game. In some games, it treats you pressed the button after you stopped pressing it, and in others require you to put unnecessary pressure. These both become more of a problem after extended use or just not really using the controller for awhile. not to mention the controller feels cheap. The CD-I controller. the D-pad randomly gets stuck/stiff very quickly. it becomes a very big problem with extended use (yes, there are a few CD-I games that are good enough for extended use.) The controller feels like, uh, styrofoam. The buttons? Any game going faster than negative 6 miles and hour, and I bet you would not be able to beat it. It's just inaccurate, and this, after extended use, just makes playing game son it difficult. I have never had to replace a controller as many times as this. Maybe i was just unlucky, but after recently last year where i had to order another one, that would be since i got it about a decade ago what? the 19th time i had to replace the controller no exaggeration. This has got to be, unless i keep getting bad pads, is just stupid. At first, eveything seems fine, but man oh man. the D-pad for anything that isn't a adventure game, a Click game, a Virtual Novel game, or maybe in some cases, and rpg, is almost impossible. Impossible. If you were to play a racing game with this controller, and the right turn was 14 seconds away, holding right since you saw the turn and even hoit the brake twice would still have you miss the turn and crash. Times where you press direction fast quickly stiffs it. The face button are abysmal. Or to be more correct, the top 3. They are loose as heck, sometimes randomly get stuck inside i have to shake the controller. The run button and select button. the Riun button, and the Select button very, very quickly, become so where you have to slightly PRESS AS HARD AS YOU CAN ON THEM WHILE SLIGHTLY BENDING THE CONTROLLER INWARD TO WORK SOMETIMES. Why? Because nec must have hired generic company A, or the CD-I designers to make the reliability of this controller. The bottom 3 button have slow reaction times, sometimes taken 1 full second, and trust me, in the very few games I can play or understand in this system, you WILL NOTICE THIS, and t will annoy you. While it feels a bit mixed with how it feels in the hand, while holding the controller seems well crafted. That must be the part Nec did themselves. ARRGHHH!!! WHYYY? The Dual Shock. Yes, we enjoyed using it but it was a bad controller. The Start button. In fact, the DS1 and DS2 have this problem. Using the Start button to much makes the start button go out way to fast. In some cases, it will either require you to Press down or it will have delayed reactions. or both. but that's a small problem right? the D-pad is bad. I don't give a crap what you say. Is it the worst? maybe not in design, but with how it works it's at the bottom. 3D games, overhead games, heck, or any game where you don't only use 2 direction is annoying as heck to play. because whether you are pressing the pad in a circle motion to turn around, whether trying to quickly move diagonal to dodge something, whether you have a game where you have to press te buttons fast, the controller either will not read you, incorrectly read you, or delay. The back 2 shoulder buttons often later get a bit stiff or sometimes get a bit sticky, and those 2 easily get stuff through the cracks making them stick even more. The front Shoulder buttons feel odd to press especialy when you have to do it quickly or press many times. it feels unfinished, like you are about to break the button or the controller. The controller has handles that are ok, While it may fit in your hands or what not, the controller, whether you like it or not, was not designed with finger space in mind. I'm not talking DC type space, but everything is tight and crammed together in design. which yes, it doesn't effect me that much and some might not at all but it''s still there in design and does alienate people. The N64 controller. many enjoy the system and those who really did a lot will probably ask why this is here ignoring the fact the controller is bad. it feels like i will break it no matter how i hold it. The N64 controller Analog stick is not that good. I don't care how much you like the games, the Analog stick is finnicky. Sometimes doing what your not trying to do. Also, not much room to actually use the analog effectively. The space you move the stick is too small. Also, the analog stick after use gets like engraved in the controller or seems in some cases to just stop being accurate and messing up movements. It's also very easy for the controller to get sticky with all the area that can get clogged up through the cracks. The shape of the controller is debatable for some, but i think it's clear that unless you have 3 hands or an octopus hybrid, having the controller designed like this not only limits gameplay options, but makes it so that you can't use the full potential of the controller because of how it limits itself. you can't use the whole controller in anyway at all. The D-pad is very stiff. it feels like they didn't really make so that it feels free when you use it. The Shoulder buttons also quickly start to stick after use. Not long term use either. Which along with weird ways of holding the controller, and if they use the D-pad, just makes some games irritating. The C-buttons in some cases have sometimes a very short but noticeable delay after some time. let me tell you the first thing I said when i saw the Dreamcast Controller. Why the hell is the start button all the damn way at the bottom of the controller? Whether you want to run something, or use something or pause because you want to or you might be getting your but kicked in a game, or any other reason, this controller makes it hard. Another thing. the lack of buttons, too much space, and too much unused space. Dual analog or not, there's way too much unused space. The Facebuttons, they are too spaced out. This would be the only time i would want at least a small, small deay with button reactions on this controller, because games that force fast presses? Or almost instant next to each other presses? yeah, good luck trying to smash all those button together, not to mention the cheap feel, and the odd shape of the controller having the bottom 2 face button sometimes have random stick. The VMU memory card? It makes the controller seem more like it's own console then a controller. not to mention yes, the VMU, all it does in most cases is put an ICON of the game you are playing MOST OF THE TIME. Yet, they seem to have forgotten that it was a memory card an it has like no space becase of it. The VMU itself has very sticky button and that can happen really quick. i suggest just using it as a memory card in general. Again, the cheap feel is backed up the fact that the end connector that goes into the machine, and the face button can easily, and I mean easily be damaged. Very easily. You better have carpet or have a table made of styrofoam. The D-pad while not to bad of a feel, is very loose when you start out with how precise it is. in fact, this may be one of the like 3 consoles, where extensive use actually makes the D-pad BETTER. Well that's it off the top of my head from what i have used legacy wise. hopefully not too long eh, haha. Yeah...
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