[QUOTE="mayceV"] I know that, doesn't really change the fact that settlers aren't very nice people. actually I typed in palestine news and its just full of clashes and attacks by settlers on google. Also refering to the zionism post, I don't get that religious ideology. I mean a lot of Jews in Isreal are European Jews that are not the hebrews that followed Moses into the land so If the land was promised to the followers and the decsendents wouldn't that mean that European Jews are basicly the same as arabs in asense? so I mean that Ideaology is flawed from a religious standpoint let alone a moral stand point.
EDIT: grammar
in regards to the ancenstry thing, Jews are an ethnic group , there were various studies on the subject, but the simple fact, is that even after being exiled around 70-135AD from Judea, the Jews didn't really intermarry with non Jews, not to a great extent (it was basically forbidden until 150 years ago), so for the most part, we are not that different from what we were 2000+ years ago, there was also very little in the way of conversions to Judaism , since Judaism makes conversions very difficult, especially in the past.
if youre wondering why some Jews are brighter skinned than others there would be 2 main reasons.
1) climate, and what mixing in with non Jews there was.
2) there are variations in ethnic groups that are spread over a large area, even between Arabs, there is a difference, Egyptians for instance seem to be quite a bit darker than Syrians or Lebanese for instance.
as for Jews being the same as Arabs, well, both are semetic, so both beong to the same group of ethnic groups , but not the same as such.
though in the end, a European Jew has more in common genetically with a Jew from Egypt, than he does with non Jewish Europeans in this regard.
egyptians arent arab though... and each arab group mixed with the original people in the area. Jordaninian arabs for instance mixed with Assyrian ( same thing with Syria) Lebonese people originate If I recall correctly from Phonecians, Palestinans from Canaannites, Philistines, Samatarians, some even with Jews. So I was just wondering because there are chinese Jews in china that have been jewish for well over a thousand years. Still though It takes an extremely long time for skin color to change naturally over time. Also you forget that the Palestinians also originate even more from greeks, romans and the biggest part Arab. I don't see what this got to do with anything. Jews are a group originating from Israel but also a certain extent of mix with non jews just like arabs. Still doesn't change anything.
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