[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Yes the West Bank should be made the new providence of Palestine.. The only reason why extremists have control of the leadership is because Israel has pretty much illustrated through the years that they will never negotiate the release of the West Bank or the right to return... Obviously the disfranchised, disgruntled, and struggling people are going to choose the most extreme and militaristic of leaders compared to one that just wants to negotiate.. This is nothing new.. The more desperate the people historically, the more violent and extreme the leaders are.. sSubZerOo
Yes they illustrated it so nicely by actively negotiation and being willing to negotiate for over 60 years. And now if you blame Israel for this then obviously it's not Israel's fault, you know because The more desperate the people historically, the more violent and extreme the leaders are..Have you actually READ any of the history of the region what so ever? The only "negotiations" conducted by Israel are oneswith extreme demands.. We saw this in the early 90s in which Israel basically gave the Palestinian population a take it or leave it offer.. Namely they get control of only a few square miles of West Bank, and Israel officially controls the rest of the West Bank through martial law.. And they would have to give up EVEN MORE land for Israel to officially settle on.. Or wait wait.. How bout the negotiations after the 1967 war.. Oh thats right there WEREN'T none, Israel purposely avoided any form of negotiation in the land for peace policy.. Why? Because they wanted to create artificial settlements on Egypt's, Jordan's and Syria's land they captured after the war.. So when it finally came around they could take more land from the negotiations.. What prevented this from happening? Egypt's and Syria's desperate attack meant to get US and USSR's attention.. THATS RIGHT, it took the threat of a impending nuclear war to give up land Egypt, Jordan, and Syria were already to trade peace with if they gave up the land.. Something supported on all SIDES BUT Israel's... I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that since it's creation, Israel has held all the chips in the conflict.. They control all the land, they control all military, all the wealth.. Palestinians have been bounced from one country to another.. And really US's unswerving support has pretty much given a infinite get out of jail free card to pretty much do as it pleases, rather its committ war crimes, human rights violations, or continue to unofficially settle in the West Bank even though its against international law.. Its obvious why Palestinian population has been extreme.. They have had no support, they have had all their land rights, wealth, and government rights stripped from them.. How this is some how not expected is mindboggling when the US has a history of people getting violent towards Great Britain for taxation, coming close to nothing what the Palestinian population has had to deal with for well over 70 years..
Now this isn't suggesting Israel are the bad guys, they are as much the victims as they are the aggressors.. Its just they have had every advantage against the Palestinians agaisnt the beginning.. And instead of relinquishing anything for peace they have pretty much showed they are land hungry in taking over the West bank and forcing out the Palestinian population..
Yup much more than you. Yes what extreme demands to demand 4% of your own territory and giving the Palestinians 96%. Maybe in the early nighties but there have been many negotiations since then with both sides being almost in perfect agreement but in the last second the Palestinians left. Because they aren't interested in peace. In what way did they avoid it? By forcing the Arabs to participate in the Khartoum summit? Oh those evil zionists. Did Israel stop Sadat from going to Israel? Did they stop Bachir? Or Mauretania, Jordan? Qatar, Morocco? Every time an Arab nation has expressed interest in true peace Israel has always hooked on. And Israel didn't capture Jordanian land. Nice try READING any of the history of the region. So they attacked Israel so that they could get back territory that they would eventually loose in that war? Cause that's what it sounds like with your explanation. Israel has hold a chip all the time? Not really. Only since 1967. But what's that got to do with anything. Holding a chip doesn't mean bad. And it's the same for the arab nations since they are immune to pretty much any criticism. Settlements against international law? Prove it and show me this supposed law. No support?? How about from Soviet all muslim nations and EU? Man you are really ignorant in this matter. How many palestinians have been forced out not as a result of war?? And what have they relinquished? Only Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, parts of Golan and parts of West Bank. And close to 100% of the West Bank offered. 
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