If the latest Uncharted 2 screen shots are not bullshots, then I'll be the first to say it looks likely to be a new console graphics king. Count me in as very impressed especially with the normal mapping and textures.

I have to also comment, there are tons of cows this last week on these boards and they're more aggressive than ever in bashing the 360. It's like someone stirred up a hornets nest.

mcgreddy: so if you're not falling over yourself in love with the PS3 you're automatically a lemming? :lol:

Its not my most anticipated game but I am definitely looking forward to see how the story unfolds further. Like someone else said, best sci-fi story in gaming!

i think your mixing up microsofts greed with sonys loyalty...both have a track recordMultiplat_inum

lol man, what world do you live in? :lol:

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Seriously, both are companies that are out to make a profit and both will go where ever profit can be made. I dont mean to insult you but, you must be really quite young to not have learned this yet.

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[QUOTE="cheapness1"]

Microsoft's big point was they were getting rid of peripherals with Project Natal which is why though your idea sounds cool it wouldn't happen unless Microsoft back tracked.

Also once you start using Natal in conjunction with a controller it becomes alot more like the Sony system.

cheapness1

True, but I'm talking about how this would fit in with existing games. We've already seen it work with a racing game that wasn't even developed around this tech. Existing games could be patched to add additional features. Better yet, you could be given the option of controller + natal, just controller or just natal. The general point being, there are tons of options and the ones I mentioned in my previous posts would certainly compliment standard FPS gameplay mechanics, no?

I agree that would be cool but as I said that isn't Microsoft's "vision" games that get Natal functionality are most likely gonna be Natal only control not hybrid as you suggest unfortunately

Did MS actually say or imply that it was to replace exisitng controls or avoid hybrid controls? I honestly didnt watch all of the conference so I may have missed it but I didn't get that impression.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

Does anyone remember that head-tracking demo using the Wiimote? This technology would be perfect for that as it is ALREADY tracking body movements. You could still play the shooter with a normal controller but imagine being able to lean left or right to get a different view.

I think many of you are assuming this tech has to be used on its own...it doesnt. I dont think this tech is going to appeal to really competitive gamers but judging by the videos, I don't think Microsoft intends it to be. They're countering the Wii's accessability for typical non-gamers. This is a step further. How much more accessable can gaming get than to take the actual controller out of the equation.

Going back to playing shooters, you could still use a contoller of some sort for aiming, but (as someone has already mentioned) imagine stopping and actually ducking behind cover, moving your head in and out of cover to get a view but also being careful not to expose yourself too much. Imagine doing the arm action to throw a grenade around the corner or over cover. You've just ducked down but you reach and throw a grenade. Imagine also melee attacks in shooters, heck even jumping etc.

I personally would love to stand in my living room, with my 360 controller in my hand, surround sound on, using the controller for all the typical shooter controls but then doing all the additional movements above. I imagine it would be quite immersive, especially, like I said, looking round corners!

cheapness1

Microsoft's big point was they were getting rid of peripherals with Project Natal which is why though your idea sounds cool it wouldn't happen unless Microsoft back tracked.

Also once you start using Natal in conjunction with a controller it becomes alot more like the Sony system.

True, but I'm talking about how this would fit in with existing games. We've already seen it work with a racing game that wasn't even developed around this tech. Existing games could be patched to add additional features. Better yet, you could be given the option of controller + natal, just controller or just natal. The general point being, there are tons of options and the ones I mentioned in my previous posts would certainly compliment standard FPS gameplay mechanics, no?

Does anyone remember that head-tracking demo using the Wiimote? This technology would be perfect for that as it is ALREADY tracking body movements. You could still play the shooter with a normal controller but imagine being able to lean left or right to get a different view.

I think many of you are assuming this tech has to be used on its own...it doesnt. I dont think this tech is going to appeal to really competitive gamers but judging by the videos, I don't think Microsoft intends it to be. They're countering the Wii's accessability for typical non-gamers. This is a step further. How much more accessable can gaming get than to take the actual controller out of the equation.

Going back to playing shooters, you could still use a contoller of some sort for aiming, but (as someone has already mentioned) imagine stopping and actually ducking behind cover, moving your head in and out of cover to get a view but also being careful not to expose yourself too much. Imagine doing the arm action to throw a grenade around the corner or over cover. You've just ducked down but you reach and throw a grenade. Imagine also melee attacks in shooters, heck even jumping etc.

I personally would love to stand in my living room, with my 360 controller in my hand, surround sound on, using the controller for all the typical shooter controls but then doing all the additional movements above. I imagine it would be quite immersive, especially, like I said, looking round corners!

[QUOTE="OPuniverse"][QUOTE="miscin123"] NO IT MAKES ME LOOK MAD...IM FURIOUS, THIS DUDE NEEDS TO SEE ME, ITS SERIOUS BUSINESS.miscin123

oh dude this is an epic thread. If I lived in canada, I'd knock your door just to be nosey and see how un-scary you probably are :P

What a first day!

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

You noticed that? But he's always so subtle about it :lol: Anyway, don't need a thread about it though.

Floppy_Jim

...should be one around here somewhere lol.

You noticed that? But he's always so subtle about it :lol: Anyway, don't need a thread about it though.

Floppy_Jim

Like twins but opposite, spooky :p

So wait, eye toy has been able to do motion capture stuff all these years?