Why do I get the feeling that when we see Bethesda's PR dude talking about the update system, he'll be using it in air quotes too?
U WOT BETHESDA?
Yeah bros I a bit mad. Why?
I'm calling shenanigans.
What do you think would be the worst thing Bethesda could do with the money it gets from people pre ordering "Season DLC Passes?"
In my opinion, it would be Bethesda laying ONE FINGER on the money spent on the Season Pass DLC, before they've actually started work on the additional content. And spending it on anything OTHER than additional content.
Tell me that you trust Bethesda not to spend this money on fixing bugs in the original product, which you've already paid a premium for.
We should get an ironclad guarantee that all of this extra money we're trusting them with, be spent on ADDITIONAL content above and beyond the base game.
All I'm saying, is that the base content of Fallout 4 should be viewed as its own financial entity.Pre order the game itself if you want - you know you're getting an actual product in return. I think it's going to do well, but let the project continue under its own steam.
If you're currently open to financing bug fixes for the community, patches, and all the promised "free content" that has been announced - feel free to pre order the "Season Pass". Just be aware that the season is probably already open, and your money may be spent on content you would be getting for free anyway.
That's just my opinion anyway. Not going to insult your intelligence if you disagree.
I just think if a company tells you to expect "free" content, it should be actually free to everyone. No air quotes required...
Why do I get the feeling that when we see Bethesda's PR dude talking about the update system, he'll be using it in air quotes too?
U WOT BETHESDA?
Yeah bros I a bit mad. Why?
I'm calling shenanigans.
What do you think would be the worst thing Bethesda could do with the money it gets from people pre ordering "Season DLC Passes?"
In my opinion, it would be Bethesda laying ONE FINGER on the money spent on the Season Pass DLC, before they've actually started work on the additional content. And spending it on anything OTHER than additional content.
Tell me that you trust Bethesda not to spend this money on fixing bugs in the original product, which you've already paid a premium for.
We should get an ironclad guarantee that all of this extra money we're trusting them with, be spent on ADDITIONAL content above and beyond the base game.
All I'm saying, is that the base content of Fallout 4 should be viewed as its own financial entity.Pre order the game itself if you want - you know you're getting an actual product in return. I think it's going to do well, but let the project continue under its own steam.
If you're currently open to financing bug fixes for the community, patches, and all the promised "free content" that has been announced - feel free to pre order the "Season Pass". Just be aware that the season is probably already open, and your money may be spent on content you would be getting for free anyway.
That's just my opinion anyway. Not going to insult your intelligence if you disagree.
I just think if a company tells you to expect "free" content, it should be actually free to everyone. No air quotes required...
@cynical_howard: Did some Googling and found a video on cinemablend.com that shows someone talking to Preston Garvey, getting the Power Armor, fighting the Raiders and the Deathclaw after it bursts out of the sewers.
Here's a link to the demo footage I saw
I've played Fallout 3 and NV, and I don't remember them feeling as "on rails" as I get the impression from reading the description you posted.
I see the quote marks you used in your post. Is that 100% confirmed to be a scripted part in the game?
If the source you quoted is correct, I am disappoint...
You won't HAVE to use the Power Armour and minigun to kill those Raiders before the Deathclaw attacks in the final game, will you? I'm hoping that was just one possible series of choices they showed during the demonstration.
You never used to be able to just put power armour on without getting Power Armour training first. Maybe Preston actually asks in the final game, "You DO know how to wear power armour, right?"
If all the Minutemen and Preston haven't been able to figure out how to wear it, it seems a bit unrealistic that some random stranger can just happen to use it "because"...
It might have been more effective to get a sniper rifle, shoot the raiders from up on the rooftops with it, then deal with the Deathclaw.
If that was the first time you'd picked up a Minigun, you wouldn't have any Big Guns skill with it anyway.
Focusing on on what I saw in the demo:
I don't know if anyone else picked up on it, but it's almost like there's a "fast travel to next plot point" option since the player in the demo didn't even have to walk outside etc - it just cut to him getting in the power armor.
What if the player in the demo video spent all his VATS points on crippling one of the Deathclaw's legs when it came out of the sewer (slows it down and it can't launch leap attacks), holstered his minigun (to run faster) and ran to somewhere else further down the alley (dropping mines as he went if he had them) and got it to follow him?
There was a car in the alleyway (you see it in the video at the end of the demo) so if I'd been playing the demo, assuming I could use the above strategy (and that cars will still blow up like a small nuke when you shoot at them) and shoot the car when the Deathclaw's right beside it, that basically equals one dead Deathclaw IMO.
VATS it in the head with the minigun or something if it isn't?
"(unavoidable) desperate attack?" U WOT M8?
I don't know - if you've played F.E.A.R. 2 then you'll remember like I do those scriptedevents where you step into the combat mech for a while, feel OP for a while fighting against other mechs and normal troops, and then take it off and go back to being on foot.
So many other choices and ways to plan the mission out. I think there should be anyway.
I almost wish they could do something like have someone playing the Beta of the game on a live stream, and do something like a "Twitch demonstrates Fallout 4" or whatever - so you could log in and give him a suggestion to try something out in the game and see what would happen.
If I'd have been watching a video for a regular FPS with a scripted sequence, the one in the article I gave the link to: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Fallout-4-Has-Exclusive-Xbox-One-Features-72467.html would have given me an adequate impression of what to expect.
Firstly, for those of you at home playing the "Who can save the most money?" meta game, you're absolutely right. Club GOTY will always be the clear winners.
I preordered Fallout 4 myself, which means by the above definition I lost some points. I'm not really complaining though...
It's a game of multiple rounds.
Fallout 3 GOTY edition? Bought it cheap, when it was on sale.
Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate Edition? Waited for a Steam sale and again bought it cheap.
I enjoyed those games. Definitely got more than my money's worth out of them.
I've bought Humble Bundle packages and stuff in the past too, basically knowing that I'm paying much less than the games would actually be worth.
Basically, as far as I'm concerned I built my points up in the meta game before and now I'm cashing them in. I'm putting some money back into the video games industry, supporting a developer I think deserves the money.
Okay, so I'm probably paying to do some beta testing for the GOTY clan. I can accept that.
I don't know - everybody on these comment pages seems to HATE pirates. It's criminal to get something for free; they're killing the industry etc.
Yet you also get to a certain threshold, and these same people are also the ones vilifying people who they think are paying too much to buy a game.
So, what? The aim of the game is to try to get as close to zero as legally possible?
If everyone used that rule set there wouldn't be a video games industry as we know it in the first place.
Anyway, I've got to say I'm still on the fence with this whole prepaid DLC deal.
I might not WANT all of the DLC that gets released. Does anyone remember the Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition, which started you off with "Limited Edition" gear as part of the DLCs - Courier's Stash etc? First thing I did was turn all that crap off, because I thought getting a grenade rifle and stuff right at the start of the game completely broke it.
Bethesda says I'll save $10 by getting the Season Pass. How do I know that they're not going to do the same thing again, and release something that I don't even want in the first place?
In that case, I could do just as well if I waited for all the DLC to be released, and saved that money by not buying the bits I didn't want.
On the plus side, the people who get the Season Pass will be able to try every single piece of DLC that comes out, and tell other gamers whether it's worth paying for.
Meanwhile in an example to the rest of the world in how not to release a new gaming device, the Nvidia SHIELD is still M.I.A. 21 days after its original planned release date of June 25.
Not that I have any intention of getting one, but it seems like the introduction of the ShadowPlay feature for Geforce 6xx and above graphics cards has also been held back because of this delay.
Maybe they held back on the release of the SHIELD so they can all be retrofitted with sweat detectors?
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