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#1 Drakshark2424
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GT5 has a large and loyal fanbase.

It's been this way for years. I don't know why this should come as a surprise to anyone.

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[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Obviously_Right

As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain.  Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

I'm just gonna leave this here http://www.supercheats.com/guides/forza-motorsport-4/advanced-tuning-guide You're right, GT5 does in fact have the GP circuit, however it does NOT have Sebring. And show me pit stop animations on Suzuka. You're last sentiment I can agree with this one, but that doesn't automatically make it a fail. When it comes to Track DLC, Turn 10 doesn't handle it quite well.
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#3 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

Z-Fatalis

I realize that's PGR4. It just goes to show you what a game that came out almost 5 years ago could still manage to do. THATS how rain have been done on Gt5, not this half assed mess we got...

So you're using another game because you can't use Forza to pwn GT5? good job bro I now see how pointless Forza really is.

And no bro this is how you do Wet racing

When Forza gets Wet racing, Snow racing, night racing, better handling better physics more cars and more tracks then come and argue with me.

That's because Turn 10 has a sense of TIME MANAGEMENT. Sticking to a 2 year cycle isn't easy. They couldn't do everything due to time constraints since you know, they actually release games on time, so things had to be cut. And they're VERY strict when it comes to framerate. I can post pretty pictures of bullshots in either game, but gameplay value is what matters most. You post that, but this is what GT5 actaully looks like.  And here's an article by Dan Greenawalt explaining why Night Racing wasn't present in Forza 4. http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/FH_UTH_10_10_12 And you're still not listening. MORE CARS DOES NOT MAKE IT BETTER. Wanna debate cars? Here's a car list of everything that's in Forza 4. http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/threads/forza-motorsport-4-car-track-list-dlc-updated-august-28th.37015/ Funnily enough the GT5 wishlist thread over on GTplanet has people begging for cars that's present in Forza. And you've even got people stating they they made the move to the 'other game' simly due to its car list ALONE..
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#4 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

Z-Fatalis

Sorry but Forza is higher quality than GT. GR : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (90) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (89) GS : GT5 (8.0) - Forza4 (8.5) Forza3 (9.5) Forza2 (9.2) MC : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (91) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (90) looks like Forza mopped the floor with GT this gen :) maybe next gen PolyPHONY can try again :)

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

Are sales the only thing you could argue against the Forza series? Sales doesn't make it a better game. Hence, iracing and rFACTOR.
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#5 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="chaotzu"]I don't really care what all Forza does. GT5 still has the superior driving mechanics and that matters. Don't care about story mode or whatever Forza is doing. Jack of all Trades but master of none? GTFO. It's NASCAR mode is the better than the official NASCAR game. What, you mad cause the Talledega track didn't make it? And you guys are really overating the PS2 cars. I bet if I showed you a picture of a race in motion you couldn't even pick out which one was standard or premium.

Superior driving mechanics? Why can't I adjust tire pressure settings in pit stops? Oh and lighting system in GT5 > Forza. You could make the WORST modeled car in GT5 look so good you can't even tell it's from a game.
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[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Z-Fatalis

As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain.  Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

I realize that's PGR4. It just goes to show you what a game that came out almost 5 years ago could still manage to do. THATS how rain have been done on Gt5, not this half assed mess we got...
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#7 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Z-Fatalis

Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.

But Forza doesnt even do any of them, let alone master them.

The only problems with GT5 were some cars had inconsistant visuals, which a lot of have been fixed through the monstrous amount of updates it gets.

Oh and a "bad menu" :lol: people need to accept it, it's not the same game it was on release and the current sales show that

Updates? You mean things that SHOULD HAVE been in the game in the first place? The no online debacle when the game released was inexcusable...
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#8 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.Nanomage

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.

As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain.  Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)
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[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

These are PS2-quality cars to you?

K man...

More content is always welcome to me and I'm yet to see a racing sim with a actually good damage model.

jessejay420
The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.

Forza has the Edge by far. and i heard The lighting was horrible in the cockpit view on GT5,more specifically on the Dashboard.

What you heard was true! On my HDTV, the shimmering and constant frame-rate drops are definitely more noticeable in cockpit views and sometimes in bumper cam as well. Do a race on SS7 in the rain and it pretty gets bad at times.
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#10 Drakshark2424
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

You mean Forza?

Yea, it has some qualities...

nameless12345

No, I'm talking about the one with the PS2-quality cars, the crap menus, the dreary grindfest of a career mode, and the laughable damage model. In other words, I'm talking about the disaster that is GT5.

These are PS2-quality cars to you?

K man...

More content is always welcome to me and I'm yet to see a racing sim with a actually good damage model.

The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.