Ok, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10.

goblaa

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Name me a game on the WIi that can't be bested on the PC?

goblaa

Wiisports. :D

You do realize that by "Source" games, I don't simply mean those with "Source" in their title, right? So, if we're discounting Source games, you'd be wrong. So your point would not stand. It would do the opposite of stand. It would sit. Or fall.Making_Pudding

Lulz. Okay, fine. I'm sorry my telepathic abilities are not as well-honed as yours. That's my fault. I'm completely owning up to it. Your allegation that all games running on the Source engine are the same is stupid for one reason: you don't understand what an engine is! According to your logic, Vampire: The Masquerades - Bloodlines is the same game as Half-Life 2.

Most (if not all) the games Valve has released since Half-Life 2 use the same old engine. Just a new, dull, coat of paint over the same tired old frame. You get a little excited, buy the game, then realize that it feels just like it always did: like you're simply a pair of floating arms.Making_Pudding

The "frame", I'm assuming, are the shooting and movement mechanics*. According to this list, the only mechanical features built into the Source engine pertain only to AI. THE SOURCE ENGINE DOES NOT DEFINE ANY OTHER MECHANICS IN A GAME THAT USES THE ENGINE. Any mechanical similarities in Valve games are because the games are all Valve games, to point out the obvious. They're not a hotbed of creativity, contrary to the popular belief, and why should they be? They're rich as hell.

*If the "frame" isn't in reference to the shooting and movement mechanics, then what is it in reference to?

You play it for a week or two (as was the case for Left 4 Dead) and then simply go back to the game that everyone is still playing. I'm pretty sure that, by now, I don't have to mention which game is "the game that everyone is still playing".Making_Pudding

As I mentioned before, I don't like Valve. I liked the original Half-Life, I like Team Fortress Classic and Counter-Strike (both not truly developed by Valve), but everything else they've released can burn in a ****ing hellhole.

My apologies. I was under the impression that Valve didn't release many games. Now I see that I was wrong. I'm quite sure that adding "Source" to the end of a game you released decades ago certainly qualifies as a fresh game. And here I thought that Call of Duty was pushing it by releasing two games with similar engines! Who knew! I mean, if Valve is any indication, they can continue doing this for millenia! Making_Pudding

Dismissing Source games, Valve has released at least one NEW game a year after the release of Half-Life 2 (with the exception 2005). Contesting a correction I made would be beneficial to most arguments, but not this one. My point stands.

****, I don't even like Valve.

I'm very confused by all of this. You should all play Steel Battalion. It has most of the weapons from Halo, except most of them. I guess it's a racing game, but it has mechs and there's no racing. If you want more information on this game, and HALO or HALO 3, check them out on Gamespot.

at least the wii has some worthwhile exclusives coming out this year. what does the pc have? all pc gamers do is talk about crysis, since there has been a pc game drought since 2007.

Himly

Man, I was hoping to get here before the PC elitists took hold of this thread. They make it seem as if mouse and keyboard are the one and only way to play a first-person shooter, when the advantages, from my personal experience, are very slim. But it won't happen. Not because CounterStrike wouldn't sell, but because Valve has a very strict policy of releasing a game only once every 37 years. I tell ya, if this were a console-only market, Valve would have dead a long time ago. Console gamers don't have time to wait around for years on end for a sequel.Making_Pudding

Certainly, a mouse and keyboard for Halo would be undesirable. It simply wasn't designed for the control scheme. When I spoke of "natural advantages" of mouse and keyboard, I meant in relation to the games that were designed for the control scheme. Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike were designed for a mouse and keyboard. The same logic applies to fighting and shooting games, which I only play with arcade sticks.

I am not a "PC elitist", and on the accusation that Valve only releases a game once every "37 years" (love the hyperbole, by the way), Here's Valve's release schedule. With the exception of a three-year gap in which no games were released by them (admittedly, a long gap from a company as big as Valve), they've been releasing at least one game a year.

well everyone has different taste,

TriangleHard