well we need to remember a few things here...

first off, i never said this game was lame, or sucked ...quite the contrary..i plan on buying it. but i at least expect an honest review of a game.

if you think the reviewers of this game didnt factor in the "hype factor" of this title, then you obviously are blinded by dire loyalty to your brand.

and if you dont happen to notice all the advertisements MS pays for on alot of these sites, and if you dont think that pulls weight, talk to the guys over @ penny arcade about their close call with ubisoft after ripping Prince O Persia 2, or talk to andrew shu @ EGM who has been approached by several game companies...promised an exclusive review only, only if he guarantees a certain score for the game.

these things happen, this is what im saying.

secondly, if you think that the core operation of a game doesnt effect gameplay... then your hopelessly lost.

"The framerate in Mass Effect is as erratic as they come. This isn't something that happens occasionally. It happens incessantly."

incessant -continuing or following without interruption

lets examine what else they said about the aftual gameplay...

The game also has issues loading textures in when you enter a new environment. Flat, boring scenery gets filled in with details piece by piece for a few moments each time you load in.
Clipping through the scenery is a regular occurrence
Shepard has a displeasing tendency to get stuck in objects, sometimes in the midst of battle. It happens to NPCs as well
On occasion, the game stopped registering our button presses
Rarely, Mass Effect even went the whole nine yards and locked up. All of these bugs can be wiped away with a reset, but boy if they aren't annoying.
Applying number ratings to a game like this doesn't do it justice because there is no way you can ignore its technical flaws

these are not just a few instances that generally dont effect gameplay, these are glaring flaws, so much so that they had to actually be focused on and addressed with words like "incessant" and "regularly"

like i said, im gonna buy this game, no doubt.

but a 9.4, you have to be the one who thinks we didnt land on the moon if you think thats acceptable or legitimate!

well i dont disagree with his review...just the score

its like saying "well my food was cold, the waiter was rude, the bathroom was filthy, but they did have a good open bar...so i'll give this restaurant a 5 star rating"

im sure all his points a re dead, i just dont see how, in his rieview you point out alot of big issues and flaws that effect actual gameplay, and then in the same review render it AAA and give it a damn near 10!

makes no sense.

well first off, in no post did i claim:

ownage
flop
flopp
floppzor
the flop
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or whatever lame l33t speek you guys use.

i have a PS3, 360 and a Wii...so i have no vested interest in seeing any game be less than its best. i fully intend to buy MassEffect. my issue is with the uneven logic these reviewers use.

i am just saying, as a straight up gamer its concerning.

[QUOTE="Escobahr"]

so your telling me that...

the game can have incessant framerate issues
problems where button presses dont register at all
clipping
freeze on a normal basis
make having to reboot your 360 become a normal event just to play..

but somehow a great story makes up for all this....so to the point it still gets AAA status??

your blinded dood.

OremLK

Looking at your sig, I'll note that you're a GTA fan. Are you aware that the GTA series had far more bugs, glitches, and technical problems?

Did it deserve its scores?

well first off no, i dont think gta san andreas did deserve the 9.6 it recieved. it derserved a 8.5, because thats a great score for a great game with some real issues. period.

honestly. GTASA was a great game, and surely one that i enjoyed greatly and thouroughly. but that being said...a game that goes above 9.0 has to be free or damn near free of defective issues such as freezing, FPS, button registers, clipping, etc. etc.

once youve hit above 9.0 your talking cream of the crop. games that are almost flawless in their delivery. any complaint over a 9.0 has to be needless nitpicking. and needless isnt defined by:

buttons not registering
freezing
clipping
texture popping
"incessant" slowdown and framerate loss

how you guys can just forget all these issues...makes me wonder how youd react if this were a PS3 title ? would prolly be a bit more critical and judicious i bet.

so your telling me that...

the game can have incessant framerate issues
problems where button presses dont register at all
clipping
freeze on a normal basis
make having to reboot your 360 become a normal event just to play..

but somehow a great story makes up for all this....so to the point it still gets AAA status??

your blinded dood.

well i mean come on dood...do you disagree?

here come the "360 apologist rank and file"

i forgot, as long as reviewers are bias towards their system then its fine and good.

all gamers should be angry with this .

""All of this success doesn't come without a cost. The framerate in Mass Effect is as erratic as they come. This isn't something that happens occasionally. It happens incessantly. The game also has issues loading textures in when you enter a new environment. Flat, boring scenery gets filled in with details piece by piece for a few moments each time you load in.

We would be remiss if we didn't mention Mass Effect's numerous bugs and glitches. Clipping through the scenery is a regular occurrence, particularly when you make use of the singularity biotic. Shepard has a displeasing tendency to get stuck in objects, sometimes in the midst of battle. It happens to NPCs as well -- it isn't nearly as frustrating but it does kill your sense of immersion when an enemy "phases" through a wall. On occasion, the game stopped registering our button presses. Rarely, Mass Effect even went the whole nine yards and locked up. All of these bugs can be wiped away with a reset, but boy if they aren't annoying.

We wouldn't be surprised at all if Mass Effect saw a series of auto-updates for Xbox Live members to fix some of these issues, but that really isn't any excuse for shipping a product with this many bugs.""

9.4
Outstanding

whoah? wha? wait? excuse me?

not saying that the game deserves an 5/10, but i mean come'on!

this is rdiculous. can reviews from IGN even be trusted anymore? they clearly address many many issues that effect (no pun) the actual game. freezing, clipping, framerate, buttons not registering and a plethora of other technical issue whic arent rare in normal gameplay....and somehow this game get a 9.4?!?!?!

thats almost perfect!

well actually the PS3 is the lead sku on the PS3.

sorry to TC but you are uninformed.

does anyone even take GT seriously??

they lost their credability when they became the "compare PS3/360"video site. all they serve to do is fan flamewars to aggregate site views!

as far as im concerned i would take the word of a gamestop employee before i listen to gametrailers.:roll:

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]There's no problem with my PS3 version of the game. No screen tearing or freezing. You probably just got a defrctive copy of the game. death1505921

OFC, fanboys will do that.

TBH, from what i'm hearing on gaming sites, and on ubis forums. THe PS3 is experiencing screen tearing and alot of glitchs. The 360 is having mild glitchs accustomed to usual games. If you search any game vids on google you'll find glitchs. Unfortunatly fanboys are trying to bash a game as usual which is a shame since it's a great game on both consoles.

Still hopefully ubi will get this patch out so we can all get back to enjoying it. And quit all this whining about which version is better.

ahhhh to dream. sadly this is but a dream