OK, not to sound spiteful of Nvidia, paranoid, underwhelmed, or whatever, but I'm a bit confused as to how this isn't just a product blatantly designed to fleece people that have a problem with finances. If you can save up/afford/manage to pay $649, unless you have serious control issues, you can wait another few months and just go for the Titan.

@CFritzRun Sadly, not the TE...... :(

If you are going to talk that much with the NFL, just offer them a Billion to make the next NFL games MS exclusive.
You can afford it, and we know they'll take the money, no matter what you produce.

"Publisher says supporting secondhand titles on Xbox One was a fundamental design criteria."

Maybe growing up in the U.S. has impaired my English (well, more than living in the U.S. already does), but wouldn't you have to go out of your way to make playing secondhand games a "design" issue? I mean, I've never had a problem playing used games before, and I started gaming with an Atari 2600 and a Commodore 64.

And yes, I know what they were trying to say, but don't act like you're doing me a favor by working out a "problem" you created in the first place.

@HowlPendragon You can buy mine....... I'll need the cash for a PS4 pre-order and an older PS3 I saw in a pawnshop earlier.

@HowlPendragon THANK YOU!!!!! I used to be put off by Sony's cockiness, especially when seeing "new" features on systems that were nothing more than copying other systems, but at least they'll tell you what's going on upfront!

"If you're backwards compatible, you're really backwards," he said.

Thanks for letting me know that my choice to stick with my THIRD 360 (didn't have to pay for all of them, but you get the idea) instead of switching to PS3 because they had taken out the BC was unappreciated by you. And thanks for letting me know that my purchase of Halo games that I bought for my 360, NEW, because I never owned an Xbox were also not good enough for you.

MS, you just pissed off an older gamer that doesn't need to ask mommy or daddy for money to buy your products. I know that XBL is a friggin' ripoff, but I still subscribed. I've already gotten rid of Windows on my computers, and now I can cross you off of my next console list as well. It was possible for you to say you weren't going to include BC without being insulting, but you chose to piss people (OK, just me) off instead.

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the SFIV stick from Madcatz has an adapter to work on the PS3? I know there probably isn't, but I now have the urge to just dump my 360 on anyone that will take it, and I value that stick more than MS's system.

P.S. No, I'm not kidding, I just have a hard time with companies that talk shit about the very people buying their products (to be read as: I'm a petty person when it comes to certain things, and I admit that). And if it's THAT HARD to make XBL games work on the Xbox One (even though I'm willing to bet hackers will find a way less than 6 months after launch), then I shouldn't buy anymore of those either, since they would be useless if I "upgraded" systems in by the end of the year. I'm not going to fund your plans for the next generation.

But they'll also be announcing their games of Summer while trying to sell me the new system..... This will either be their best XBL Summer sale in terms of games, or their worst in terms of sales.

@blueboxdoctor My 2 cents.......

I didn't own a PS3 this gen, but enjoyed some of the games for it, the PS4 has me interested. I own a 360, and right now, I can't see why I wouldn't give the PS4 a shot before the "ONE".....

Not saying either system is "better" than the other, but E3 is actually going to be where I make my decision.

"Do I get to bring [my XBLA games] with me [to the Xbox One]?"

Allow me to use an entire paragraph to say "No", while not using that word once.