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#1 FatMan1945
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I don't get this, Osama admitted he did it. What more proof do you need?PannicAtack

Some of the CTs say it was an actor. >_>

I do not believe Osama was an actor, but if you look at his history, he lived a fairly normal life (as normal as you could live in a war torn country.) How come one day, he just decided to become the bad guy? His family and relatives have a lot invested in America, and the last thing Osama would want to do is jeopardize that. If you looked at the key players of this attack (Osama, Hussein, and Al Queda), you will see that none of them benefited from this attack, so why would someone attack another nation if they weren't going to benefit?

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#2 FatMan1945
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I'm open to anything with imperial evidence.

I am not willing to listen to any more lame 9/11 conspiracies because they have no evidence at all.

Another reason is that 9/11 happened a long time ago. Get over it. It's like digging up conspiracies on the Oklahoma City bombing.

We're past all that. It's time to move on.

People lost their love ones and bringing this trash up is completely inappropriate.

ParadiseAwaits

But the War that 9/11 started is still going on. People are dieing everyday in the middle-east because of the war we started. The amount that died on 9/11 are small compared to the amount that have died from the back-lash. I know saying this wont bring them back, but I hope that if we bring attention to this issue, we could save this from happening again.

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#3 FatMan1945
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Conspiracy theorists are often (not always) crazy attention-seekers and most people would find it pretty disturbing if a person used your dead loved ones in order to get their face and voice in the media.Hungry_bunny

Yes, but there is always going to be attention-seekers. Westboro baptist church uses religion to get attention, but it doesn't mean that most baptists are like that. Radical ideas tend to attract radical people, but most 9/11 conspiracists I have met are quite intelligent and have a good head on their shoulders.

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Every single shred of "evidence" provided has been sufficiently debunked that the ball is now thoroughly back in the court of those who want to believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Thus far, no new evidence has been provided; people simply continue to show the same pieces of evidence in the hopes that their new audience won't provide the counterarguments that have already been made.

Einstein once said that insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. Draw your own conclusions.

GabuEx

Yes, and while I have read many of the debunking 9/11 articles, there are still many questions that have yet to be debunked, such as why tower 7 fell for example. Sure, people can say all they want that it fell because of damage from debris, but there were other buildings near the twin towers that suffered much more damage than tower 7, but did not collapse. Also, why was their melted steel found at the base of the towers. the heat from the uncontrolled fire can bend and damage steel all it wants, but it is not hot enough to melt steel.

These are just a few that have never been properly debunked yet. I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job, I am just saying that there is evidence.

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#5 FatMan1945
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I have noticed every time a 9/11 Conspiracist publicly claims to support the 9/11 theory, people immediately call him crazy. Why? There is an abundance of proof that points the finger to the US government, and while some of it is sketchy, there is still some incriminating evidence. I understand why some people choose not to believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, but why do you think the people who do are crazy. Many of these conspirators are firefighters who were there, families who lost their loved one in the attack, and many brilliant and well educated people.

Why do you hate someone for believing in something even though they did their research? There is no evidence that God is real, yet people rarely insult theists who believe, yet when there is evidence that the government may be involved in an attack, everyone hastily calls them insane.

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#6 FatMan1945
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]

You know it's going to be bad when his one and only source is youtube.

President Bush has stayed out of the media's eye as of late, and will probably continue to do so until the election is over

PannicAtack

Honestly it's not that hard to find information supporting 9/11 theorists. I just used YouTube because people here are more inclined to watch a video rather than read several pages of information.

Asing questions is one thing. It's quite another to repeat them when every single CT claim has been debunked. >_>

I have rarely seen someone truly debunk as 9/11 theory. they only make theories of their own. Pop. Mech. did this also. They fought every conspiracy with little evidence and claimed they won.

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When I was a kid, I LOVED the goosebumps series, but now I would probably have to say the halo books.
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#9 FatMan1945
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So your example are

1. We break away from persecution from England.

and

2. We stop half our country from seceding?

Those don't seem particularly bloodthirsty american power grabs to me.

Hom3_Pwn3r

They aren't. I am just saying why I feel the United States isn't really United. I guess I hit submit before I had time to think about what I was typing because I truly believe most of the wars we fought (including the revolutionary and civil war) were necessary. I am just pointing out that we are not a perfectly happy United family that our name would suggest.

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#10 FatMan1945
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[QUOTE="FatMan1945"]

All this nation wants is power, and will stop at nothing to get it. Hom3_Pwn3r


Please, expand on this thought. And don't use the erroneous claim that the war was for oil.

But it was for oil :?.

Anyways, the first war the states ever fought in was a war for power over England's rule. The United States actually wanted power so much that we fought EACH OTHER in the civil war. The south didn't like the way the north wanted to monopolize the nation, and the north hated that the south was trying to secede, so war ensued. I would go on and mention The Great War and WWII, but I am already getting enough strange looks for tonight ;).