Beneath a Steel Sky, Chrono Trigger (I'm stuck on the last battle with Lavos :x), Metroid Prime (if that counts now) and Vagrant Story.

Revolver is their best one, in my opinion.

George Harrison beacuse of this song

kurtoronie

:shock:

I get a link to ca.mcafee.com?

Anyway, George was my favourite too. He was a very understated guitarist and was responsible for many of my favourite Beatles songs: Love You To, Within You Without You, Something and While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

The Smiths

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Without christianity who would sloughter countless people and keep the worlds population down.

rzepak

Atheists I guess. I mean, they have killed over 150,000,000 in the last century.

I wouldn't have been as disappointed as I was but I don't think I would have thought it was a better film. Infact, if I hadn't read the graphic novel prior to watching the movie I reckon I would have been totally lost :P The film is kind of a structural mess.

Can't say it's in my top 10 or anything but it's a good movie, I liked it a lot.

You should be aiming to position your finger as straight as you can as opposed to leaning as hard as you can. You still have to apply a fair amount of pressure with your finger to the fretboard, but a flat, straight finger is the key. Practise simply barring a whole fret and once you can do this without muting any of the strings, add the rest of chord shape.

No, jesse3a3 brought up fashion or fedoras. Think you may need to learn how to read a post. Sinatrahad the ability to produce long, flowing musical lines unbroken by pauses for breathing, his subtle use of the vocal techniques more commonly found in the opera and classical idioms. (Things not seen or heard in music at this time)His manipulation of phrasing set him far above the average pop singer. Sinatra developed a unique white-blues style, supple enough to express the wide range of his own turbulent emotions. He transformed the songs of the great writers into something personal by the sincerity of his performance; Sinatra actually seemed to believe the words he was singing. Lets not forget his amazing stage presence, and his career in films and television. I don't know of any resent pop starwho doesn't know the importance of stage presence or further their career in film or television.:roll: He set the standard for this and the Beatles took over and made it a whole new wonderful thing. I give the Beatles all the praise in the world. I just give credit to the legend that is Frank Sinatra.

drufeous

all of those things you credited as having been invented/impacted by Sinatra (i.e. roles in film and televison, those vocal techniques etc.) were also being done at the same time (and arguably before) by Bing Crosby.

No influence on the music industry? Sinatra practically wrote the book on pop music! He was the first teen idol, and was the blue print that the Beatles & Elvis followed to get teenage girls screaming. Why do you think rappers like P Diddy & Jay-Z want to wear nice suits and pretend they are gangsters? Even popstars today still follow the Sinatra blueprint in their fashion & attitude. Why did Michael Jackson wear a Fedora and ? Frank Sinatra did it first , and did it best. The Songs Sinatra sang are the greatest songs in the history of American Music written by the greatest songwriters in American History like Cole Porter & Irving Berlin. They all tell stories and are lyrically full of depth. 90% of Beatles songs are about drug use and cheesy teenage love songs. Have you ever read the lyrics of a typical beatles song? But the beatles were high on drugs most of the time when they were writing songs, so what do you expect? Ive read more well written nursery rhymes. I like the Beatles, but comparing their music to Sinatra is like comparing Dr. Seuss to Doestoevsky. The Beatles are kids music, Sinatra is for grownups. jess3a3

Err, where did I say that? I said:

Sinatra really had little impact on the music industry when compared to artists such as the BeatlesForever_Changes

stop putting words in my mouth.

First of all The Beatles actually wrote their own goddamned music. Sinatra was a performer, not to say I'm not a fan of him. As far as "pop music" goes, The Beatles wrote some of the most challenging and technically great pop music there has ever been. Too bad you can't hear or appreciate that. You can find plenty of meaningful and lyrically deep songs in the latter part of The Beatles' carreer - A Day in the Life, Eleanor Rigby, Blackbird and Strawberry Fields to name but a few. As for stating that comparing The Beatles to Sinatra is like comparing Dr Seuss to Dostoyevsky... well that's pretty much the dumbest thing I've heard.

And, as LJS9502_basic hinted at, those things you mentioned that Sinatra supposedly influenced are totally superfical things. Who the hell cares what an artist wears or how many women he's ****ed? You simply can't compare Sinatra to the true innovators of pop music (The Beatles, Les Paul, Brian Wilson to name a few).