All I know is black metal bands and fans look like and sound retarded. I could post a huge rant, but it's just simple enough to say black metal is horrible.Zaeryn
Finally someone that agrees :)
Edit: Nice rig.
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All I know is black metal bands and fans look like and sound retarded. I could post a huge rant, but it's just simple enough to say black metal is horrible.Zaeryn
Finally someone that agrees :)
Edit: Nice rig.
[QUOTE="Golfer4Life"][QUOTE="Laymsp0t"][QUOTE="MichaelSoft"]Im not saying all violence are related to music dont twist my words. Interviews can be used to mask yourself, thats obvious, if you believe everything from interviews you sir, are an idiot. Marilyn stated in an mtv awards: "we all try to look beatiful and please god.. well f*ck god" something like that He was accused of sexual battery and pleaded no contest he was accused of giving his children cocaine he stared in a porno series. Former wife claimed he had drug abuse Manson was given the title "Revernd Mason" by the church of satan It;s all in wikipedia my friend.. but you have just lost a case.. and PLEASE STOP QOUTING.Laymsp0t
Yeah interviews CAN be used for a lot of things. I doubt he was lying however. But youll believe what you want on this little guy
im glad he stated that at the mtv awards. Good for him. That dosent disprove anything I said. I said his morals are christian, I never said he was a christian
oh he was accused? Does he even have kids? I can accuse you of killing your mother, does that mean you did?
I would be in a porno given the chance
A lot of people have drug abuse, and theres no proof hes an addict
Wikipedia isnt reliable. Hes stated he was never apart of the church many times.
I win.
He was accused of sexual charges. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455317/20020619/marilyn_manson.jhtml?headlines=true. There ya go, and he had to pay fines
publicity stunt.
this is just funny.
Prove it. I got my proof, where's yours? From the looks of it all you want is proof. You can't jester it away as "publicity stunt". You're really rooting for him huh?
Also here, "The Church of Satan's founder, Anton LaVey, also bestowed upon him the title of "Reverend." Link below.
http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/marilyn_manson/artist.jhtml
[QUOTE="MichaelSoft"]Im not saying all violence are related to music dont twist my words. Interviews can be used to mask yourself, thats obvious, if you believe everything from interviews you sir, are an idiot. Marilyn stated in an mtv awards: "we all try to look beatiful and please god.. well f*ck god" something like that He was accused of sexual battery and pleaded no contest he was accused of giving his children cocaine he stared in a porno series. Former wife claimed he had drug abuse Manson was given the title "Revernd Mason" by the church of satan It;s all in wikipedia my friend.. but you have just lost a case.. and PLEASE STOP QOUTING.Laymsp0t
Yeah interviews CAN be used for a lot of things. I doubt he was lying however. But youll believe what you want on this little guy
im glad he stated that at the mtv awards. Good for him. That dosent disprove anything I said. I said his morals are christian, I never said he was a christian
oh he was accused? Does he even have kids? I can accuse you of killing your mother, does that mean you did?
I would be in a porno given the chance
A lot of people have drug abuse, and theres no proof hes an addict
Wikipedia isnt reliable. Hes stated he was never apart of the church many times.
I win.
He was accused of sexual charges. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455317/20020619/marilyn_manson.jhtml?headlines=true. There ya go, and he had to pay fines
God kills 2 men who offers God incense that he hasn't authorized (Lev. 10:1-2)
God endorses the murder of any unmarried girl found not to be a virgin (Deut. 22:13-21)
God commands slaying disrespectful children (Lev.20:9; Deut.21:18-21)
God acknowledges He created Evil (Isaiah 45:7)
God kills an innocent baby for its father's wrong-doing, ignoring the father's pleas (2 Sam. 12:15-20)
God's spirit inhabits Samson and murders 1,030 people - (Judges 14:19 & 15:14-15)
God endorses the killing of any who dare worship any other god or merely have a different religion (Ex. 22:20; Lev. 24:10-16; Deut.13:1-15; Jos. 23:7)
God slays a man who refuses to impregnate his brother's widow (Gen. 38:7-10) (This could also be a contradiction, as it appears that god is actually upset that a man will NOT have sex outside of marriage, NOR commit adultery)
Laymsp0t
Really? These are in the actual Bible? Shocking if true. P.S Turned it white, easier to read.
[QUOTE="MichaelSoft"][QUOTE="Laymsp0t"][QUOTE="MichaelSoft"]Just cuz they dont kill babies dont mean their not affected. They can become more violent and so forth. After a satanic rap concert singing about breaking things and raping the concert viewers then got into a fight afterwards.. leading to 44 sexual assualts, 13 ppl sent to the hospital, and the place was vandalized. The music hits the cords of your subconscience. And no i dont mean just subliminal messages. The melody effects your brain as well.. again theres a link up above by Golfer4life, wiki it as well.Laymsp0t
even though I think icp is dumb, icp fans tend to be some of the nicest people ive ever met. They see themselves as a family and even if they dont know each other they help out. Your argument just fell apart entirely. Good going!
Im aware that melodies effect your mind, but nobody kills anyone from listening to music. People may kill because theyre sick of blind faith and are fed up with life however. How about when people kill in the name of god? what about that?
Killing in the name of god is different. Its not like god told u to or your religoun told u to. Its that those ppl choose to use that as an excuse, hell i dont even believe in a diety. Whereas music effects your mind, your arguement just feel apart. People do kill because of melodies. Columbine, those kids listened to those kinds of music, they were seen at a satanic concert before the incident, and their actions looked alot like that of the song. What they were doing was like a MV for that song. They were even targeting christians, as seen in their video. Satanist right there. Also Im not saying all music do that but some do, and just cuz u dont kill becuz of music, it can affect how you act. thats a fact, it can get you more violent, once again the link from golfer4life gives good info. "your arguement just fell apart" Your not stating facts your stating what YOU'VE seen and think.HAHA it different? "your religion didnt tell you to" how about 1. you read the bible 2. and realize that the crusades were started by men of god who preached to people of europe
in columbine, they were made fun of. If anything the music helped keep them from doing it for a while. Most psychiatrists admit that heavy fast/violent music makes people feel like the problems they have go away when listening. it also makes them feel like they arent the only ones going through it
and what satanic concert were they at? Infact, where are these "satanic concerts" ? What song is this? I hope you know I truely believe you're talking out of your ***
Targetting christians = satanism huh? Those damn muslim satanists!!
I used to be a lot more violent before I listened to heavy music, if anything it helped me.
I am stating facts, you arent though. I listen to heavy music, ive lived my life. I actually know what satanism is. You however, know absolutely nothing and are probably fourteen.
Okay, so now we are straying to Christianity. Let me tell you this, religion is a powerful thing. But these "men of God" were just that men. And they fought for this deity that they believed in. Now ask yourself, whould Jesus have wanted this? If you say yes then you must be uninformed. So as I said earlier; Religion is not corrupt, it's the people behind it. Mmkay?
For the record: I have no religion; I research themand find the teachings and morals they try to ingrain.
Some of the ideas Satanism preaches aren't bad. Many are ideas extending from older philosphies such as Extistentialism and Individualism. What makes it bad is that it tries too hard to go against another religion and undermine it. The ethics it preaches are a little more wild and untame; follow your wants and needs (as long as it doesn't go against the law.). It's basicly a scapegoat for people wanting to live life with no restrictions (no problem from me). Some of the idea like hate is good (we must have hate and love) I don't believe is in. I mean sure it's a natural instint but if we give in to our instint 100% of the time and use it mindlessly, it would lead to -->Rape, murder, injury,vandalism and so forth.
On the other hand, I believe Christianity has some valuable teachings. For example Vengence is a big NO NO. The desire in a person to seek revenge can manifest into something bigger and more dangerous (i.e murder). Lets try to love before we hate mmkay?Other religions like Buddhism also contain worthy messages for the ear and brain.
even if there were subliminal messages, how are you supposed to understand them if theyre backwards? Laymsp0t
Funny Sig Laymsp0t. Trying to corrupt us huh? Subliminal Messages!!!
Okay... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=0007D716-71A1-1179-AF8683414B7F0000&pageNumber=5&catID=2
From the link: "When they scanned the brains of musicians who had chills of euphoria when listening to music, they found that music activated some of the same reward systems that are stimulated by food, sex and addictive drugs.
Overall, findings to date indicate that music has a biological basis and that the brain has a functional organization for music. It seems fairly clear, even at this early stage of inquiry, that many brain regions participate in specific aspects of music processing, whether supporting perception (such as apprehending a melody) or evoking emotional reactions."
It doesn't take a 10 year old to know that music stirs the emotion. Whether it be happiness, sadness, grief, anger, or the need for something. Now tell me, when you hear music about killing, drugs, sex, what emotion cord does that stir? Me? I would be sad because millions of people listen to this kind of music. Oh and to comment on whether you hear them singing it or not; that doesn't really matter. What if there was a secret organization of terriost andwe don'tknow aboutthem - it's still there. And even if they don't mean what they are singing it doesn't justify it.
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