it has everything that live has

its free

it has far better games ( wahawk , resistance 1 and 2 ,killzone 2 , mgo , mag , home , socom , motorstorm 2 )

dedicated servers

psn > live

ps3wizard45

No

Yes

Hilariously, you only mention 3 games that are out already. 3 games?

Some games... and the 360 has some, too. Not to mention, What happens when Konami decides it's no longer a good idea to have MGO? You can still play xbox games.

Yea Sony bluffed

But it was M$ that said they plan to sell 1BILLION Xbox 360 consoles back in 2005

spidadragon1

They never said that.

Apples vs. Oranges?

The battle of the century rages on.

Seriously though, I voted forza. I prefer more sim-ish racers, and the livery options are very fun.

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty.
That game had the concept and the back-story to be absolutely amazing.
Doom_HellKnight

Good choice. I had forgotten all about it. The idea was awesome.

[QUOTE="Grive"]I think we should have already expected this because it's sony standard opening move. Worked against the dreamcast, didn't it?ThePlothole

Only because Sega was running out of money.

It didn't help. Anyway, I didn't mean it was the only thing that made Sony win - I was just recalling that they did the exact same move last generation, and I believe in the Ps1 days too.

[QUOTE="Grive"]

Personally, I'm thinking it's between Lair and Alone in the Dark.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]i liked Kane and Lynch, i think mass effect was a missed opportunityBioShockOwnz

What? Mass Effect is an excellent game from beginning to end. What didn't you like about it? :o

Doesn't mean it can't be a missed opportunity, if there's a lot more potential to the game. Missed opportunity != bad.

Yeah, I didn't get the feeling of a missed opportunity with Mass Effect at all, but hey... that's just me.

Well, I don't think it qualifies as "missing", but there was a lot of extra potential to be had from the story and gameplay. Especially since the prerelease videos showed a really, really cool squad mechanic that was basically forgotten by time of release.

Personally, I'm thinking it's between Lair and Alone in the Dark.

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]i liked Kane and Lynch, i think mass effect was a missed opportunityBioShockOwnz

What? Mass Effect is an excellent game from beginning to end. What didn't you like about it? :o

Doesn't mean it can't be a missed opportunity, if there's a lot more potential to the game. Missed opportunity != bad.

It seems like a lot of people bash EA on this board. Im not sure what its all about......I mean, looking though my games, I realize EA has done a lt of my favorite games ever. And I am actually kind of nervous that the new Bond game is being done by Activision this time around.ThisCurse

The problem is, EA is big, and it makes madden.

It's nerd-cool to hate on madden and on EA. A bit like microsoft, actually.

PS3 supports 1080p, so with some games and the right TV, PS3 wins.plod2

So does the 360... and the 360 did it first. I guess that still stings for fanboys. And if you wish to get technical, it's the only console that's ready to output HD out of the box.

Then again, that's quite the useless metric.