video footage is deleted...damn, i was interested in seeing some of this...

@coop36

LOL!

so true...

@TruthSerum808 @HailHellfire

sounds about right...

no reason to mention that you need something else to do that or have to pay another bill or company to get that to work...

so initially it will be 3 payments...

pay for 720

pay for internet 720 subscription

pay for internet

& hope that you live in a place with great service or that your internet doesnt go down...

otherwise you will waste about $100 a month on a huge coaster, & paying for internet & a 720 internet subscription that you cant use...

my guess that it will cost about $750-$850

if you buy the $500 package

thats if you want the extra controller a game or some other item that they expect you to have attached to it but not added in the box...

you could buy a PC at that price & not have to worry about any of that...cheaper games, too...

@TruthSerum808 @tfkowns

thats what i dont get...

why is Gamestop excited about this console? if its DRM they cant sell used games...

they must have done some sort of business arrangement with them, cause i dont see how it benefits them if 720 is always online...

@bfmv2007

i could see people buying it & then not realizing what they bought & complaining to M$ cause they dont have the connection & didnt read the specs or what was expected to play the machine...

well, when they do unleash the specs..

im pretty sure that their will be loads fluff wording that they will use to replace the words that they dont want their customers getting mad over...

words that they would replace would be DRM or always online, in order to think they have hidden the negative words that they dont want customers getting angry over...

my guess is that they will try to change these words & make up some new fancy vocabulary, BS to replace it so that they feel that they have tricked their customer fanbase...

either that or they will take away always online at launch & add it later when they make a new Updated User Agreement, where the only way you can play is if you already say yes to it...

this way, people who already own the system feel obligated to say yes to this agreement in order to keep their system & keep playing...

yes, the last one idea is a bit far fetched but its been done before in the past with other consoles where they took away certain features or added ones that people didnt like...

@Dirty_Hairy

LOL!!!

@jcnba28

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@fredyellowone

both

lets me guess..

always online & paid subscription fee to be online...

i find this whole paid subscription to play online ridiculous...

no PC requires you to buy a PC & then pay to use the internet to play a multiplayer game...

what is that?

i still dont get consumers that are ok with this kind of treatment..

you paid for the game & cant unlock it unless you pay your console manufacturer money in order to use those game features...

even though you already pay for the internet in your home, you have to pay another fee to use the internet for an electronic device...

im waiting for the day that Tablets, Mobile Phones, or PCs, tell you that you cant use your Wifi to play what you already paid for..

it reminds me of Capcom DLC that is on the disc but they require you to pay a fee to unlock it, even though you already paid for it...

i hope PS4 does not go down this road..

for subscription to play online & still keep online features free & give the option to pay for Playstation Plus...

my guess is that this is why Sony showed their console first, cause there was an article that mentioned that they were confident enough to show it first due to knowing a little bit about the 720...