[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

[QUOTE="Ultimate_Peon"]If past generation numbers are any indication, Japan will be worth about 20 million in sales for the leading console in that area. The system that comes second will get around 5 million. Wii is currently on track to hit 20 million, and PS3 is currently on track to hit 5 if you compare their sales to the PS2 generation. Trading_Zoner

and xbox 360 won't even get 1 M in sales.

and BTW the sales for this gen will be alot closer than last gen. so it will be more like 20M (Wii) 15M (PS3) 1M (360) in japan.

There is no realistic scenario for the PS3 to sell 15 million units in Japan. Five million is possible at the outside. If the sales trends miraculously turn themselves on their head in the near future, we can revise predictions. But given current evidence, 15 million is pure fantasy.

you are forgetting one thing though.

PS3 will last for around 10 years on the market.

it was built to last even longer than the other PSes and sony will support it so it last that long or longer.

I don't think ps3 will sell at a higher rate than Wii. But it will last a heck of alot longer than Wii on the market, giving it a huge edge.

No, I remembered that Sony said that PS3 will have a 10 year lifespan.  Sony says a lot of stuff.

Given its current performance, I think that it is very safe to say that PS3 will not last even close to 10 years on the market.  The capabilities of the hardware are irrelevant to longevity.  Only software support matters.  Barring a miraculous turnaround for the PS3, Wii will have a longer lifespan.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

It already had a pre-launch price drop in Japan. It won't even hit 1 million units for another two months. There are no BIG games in the near future for the region. In an absolute market sense, PS3 is selling poorly in Japan with every indication that it will continue to slide barring a miracle.

Trading_Zoner

and that is why it isn't selling right now.

when it DOES get the BIG games, it will sell MUCH better.

The point I'm trying to make is that barring immediate recovery, it's doomed to a distant second place.  By the time any games that could be considered "BIG" are released, Wii will be well established as the gold standard for home consoles in Japan.  PS3 will be the "off-brand" catering to a niche fanbase.

[QUOTE="Ultimate_Peon"]If past generation numbers are any indication, Japan will be worth about 20 million in sales for the leading console in that area. The system that comes second will get around 5 million. Wii is currently on track to hit 20 million, and PS3 is currently on track to hit 5 if you compare their sales to the PS2 generation. Trading_Zoner

and xbox 360 won't even get 1 M in sales.

and BTW the sales for this gen will be alot closer than last gen. so it will be more like 20M (Wii) 15M (PS3) 1M (360) in japan.

There is no realistic scenario for the PS3 to sell 15 million units in Japan.  Five million is possible at the outside.  If the sales trends miraculously turn themselves on their head in the near future, we can revise predictions.  But given current evidence, 15 million is pure fantasy.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

If you look at the Japanese charts for N64 vs. PS1 it becomes much clearer. N64 had good initial momentum in NA but eventually lost steam because it failed badly in Japan. If you lose Japan, you lose a bunch of software support. The same thing happened to GameCube, but much faster.

Wii, on the other hand, has very good momentum in all three regions. It's not going to suffer from losing software support because it's quickly establishing a viable userbase in all regions.

Trading_Zoner

PS3 also sells comparably well in all regions. And that is a huge advantage wii and PS3 have over Xbox 360.

That's not true, though. PS3 isn't selling well in Japan. It's tracking below N64, even below GameCube. It basically can't even get started.

PS3 is doing just fine in japan.

it could be doing better yes. Once the BIG games come it will inevitably sell much better. Also a price drop would benefit it GREATLY.

considering PS3s price and games available it is selling well in japan. and it's price and game situation WILL get better.

It already had a pre-launch price drop in Japan.  It won't even hit 1 million units for another two months.  There are no BIG games in the near future for the region.  In an absolute market sense, PS3 is selling poorly in Japan with every indication that it will continue to slide barring a miracle.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

If you look at the Japanese charts for N64 vs. PS1 it becomes much clearer. N64 had good initial momentum in NA but eventually lost steam because it failed badly in Japan. If you lose Japan, you lose a bunch of software support. The same thing happened to GameCube, but much faster.

Wii, on the other hand, has very good momentum in all three regions. It's not going to suffer from losing software support because it's quickly establishing a viable userbase in all regions.

Trading_Zoner

PS3 also sells comparably well in all regions. And that is a huge advantage wii and PS3 have over Xbox 360.

That's not true, though.  PS3 isn't selling well in Japan.  It's tracking below N64, even below GameCube.  It basically can't even get started.

[QUOTE="Ultimate_Peon"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]N64 started out selling REALLY well. PS started out selling relatively poorly. And look how things changed. Trading_Zoner

how soon?

Five weeks.  By ten weeks, Playstation habitually outsold N64 2:1 and it already had the advantage of launching 18 months earlier.

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]I played guitar freaks and that game only had 3 ''frets'' and I take Guitar Hero as a game I don't care about real guitar. And did you beat GH I and II on expert?kittykatz5k

Eh, I don't know about challenge, but I think that five frets is more fun.  It encourages slides, patterns where you 'walk' your hand up and down the fretboard, more possibilities with alternating chords, etc.

The people who also dislike Wii. Just read "I don't like a Wii" instead of "We" if it bothers you that much.

Anxz

Haha.  Okay.  "I don't like the Wii" is a lot better than "We don't want the Wii".  It might not sound like as strong of a statement at first, but it'll withstand more scrutiny, making it stronger in the long run.