[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If people did not want them, then why do they sell so well?Berserker_2

Only if they criticise Microsoft about the Elite.

AA, this game came out like half a year ago. Who the hell waits that long to play a game that's half a year old. Pretty much everyone who wanted to play it has played it already.DaysAirlines

That would be possibly relevant to sales, but not to the GameSpot score. 

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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]To save $200, I'd wouldn't mind if every game came on 5 disks, honestly. It's no hassel in my opinion. Taking a quick piss takes at least 10 times as long, so if you look at it that way, there's really no problemGrive

Just an idea, but if 360 started making 5 disc games as a standard to match PS3 50 gig one disc. Do you really think the 360 games would stay at $60 bucks? With the added cost of discs you can bet game prices would rise.

The price of DVDs is not a meaningful factor in the equation. I can get double layer DVDs on a small scale (think less than 50) for about a dollar each. Mass quantities should, at most, be costing 0.40-0.50, stamped. Maybe 0.75 for a whole disk, as developed. You think an increase of $3 USD (The difference between producing a one disk and a five disk game) is meaningful compared to the cost of developing five times' worth of media content?

That's the part that people keep forgetting.

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[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

What about the DS?

karicha9

We also see high sales for Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros., and Final Fantasy III. It's not necessary for the Nintendogs and Brain Age gamers to be the same people purchasing these titles, either.

Userbase > Software support > Userbase > Software support.

The casual console is the hardcore console.

It's clear that getting the non-gamers to buy the hardware is the most difficult and rather important first step. Nintendo's success is quite admirable.

I just wanted you to be more specific.  "Look at the DS" is slightly vague, eh? :)

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

What about the DS?

karicha9

We also see high sales for Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros., and Final Fantasy III.  It's not necessary for the Nintendogs and Brain Age gamers to be the same people purchasing these titles, either.

Userbase > Software support > Userbase > Software support.

The casual console is the hardcore console.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Please don't call them Ninty. *gag*

I'll definitely agree with you on the impact of those titles. On the other hand, I'm surprised that you didn't remember that Trauma Center is published by Atlus, and that Cooking Mama is similarly 3rd party.

Nintendo will not rely upon third parties to do this thing for them. Satoru Iwata knows that it is necessary and that Nintendo needs to do it - this point was the conclusion of his remarks at E3 2006.

On the other hand, they don't need to do it yet. They can't take too long about it, but right at the moment it would actually be counter-productive. Creating further demand for a supply-constrained product is far from optimal.

karicha9

Wii Sports and Wii Play are enough for right now.  One more well-placed "Wii Foobar" title should see 2007 in the bag nicely. 

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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="karicha9"]So you would call those people at the retirement homes that play the Wii gamers?karicha9

Let's get back on-message, folks. Wii is for selling to non-gamers. Once a person has purchased a Wii, they are potential targets for Wii software. That reduces the problem to one of creating software that these demographics will purchase.

What about the DS?