soooooo..... back on topic. why should an athiest be scared of hell when they don't believe in it? Is that too simple? Have I completely missed TC's point?jasperrussell
Yes, there are too many radical atheists and too many radical religious types that are not willing to even consider each other's points of view. If both sides could stop that nonsense it would be better.Tiefster
What would you consider to be a "radical atheist"?
[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]No it isnt.
Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.
Stranger_4
I find your lack of value for life... disturbing.
[QUOTE="muthsera666"]I'm assuming that it reassures atheists that even if their wrong and the Judeo-Christian God exists, if an atheist still lives a good life, one would still go to heaven. It kind of eliminates the relevance of Pascal's labor, however.foxhound_fox
Do you mean Pascal's Wager? >_> People aren't simple-minded enough to choose to believe what would appear to be practical to others if they find it irrational. Being religious solely for an afterlife is kinda pathetic too.
[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="carrot-cake"] To a tee, yes.
You make a good point. Controlling the thoughts of an entire population is a little different than preventing somebody from smoking in public though. :roll:JabbaDaHutt30
It's a lot more useful too, that's for sure. People are only ''free'' because they could rebel if some rigths were taken from them, thus outweighting the benefit of outlawing something. *sigh* Ok then. That's all? I won the argument then?! Ha, I won the argument!!
[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Culture, Literature, diversity of views, uniqueness: all that are provided by the language of every nation; not only communication. For some people language means a whole lotta deal about their civilization (in fact sometimes it's what it sustains it), their literature, their cultural identity. The practices of uniformity (If I got this word right - I mean making everything look and sound the same) are military practices. Language is also art in its own prespective and also in it's outcomes like literature, poetry etc.
Teenaged
Language only complicates understanding a culture. It is not the language that truly sets apart one culture from another.Language provides with a feat to accomplish and I know from my life that when something is earned with effort then it is more worthwhile.
And language plays a dramatic role in the cultural identity of a nation. It's not just that they say "hey I speak german you english so I am special we are different bla bla". I told you how many forms of art come from language. It has been remarked that civilizations that didn't make sure to pass on their traditions through language (myths, stories, literature etc), they lost their cultural identity and nothing told them apart from others.
That's documenting history, and not necessarily preserving traditions. I edited my post earlier saying that I would be generous enough to allow people to use other languages in some fiction or literature, but not for practical use. How many forms of art come from a language? I can indulge in fiction as good as if I heard it in its original language if it was of quality - both the original work and the translation. I'd say that language maintains the dramatic degree of importance throughout a culture as fine as currency would. Forms of art come from people... not languages. Milk doesn't come from grass; milk comes from cows.
[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Ah, I just realised about five minutes ago that we've all been caught hook, line and sinker. Congrats TC, you had us going there for a while. :| carrot-cake
Does that accurately display what you have realised? The person who draw the first face has a grim mind. I love it!
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