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#2 Japanese_Monk
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They dont have the same target market but people here aren't comparing target market. They're comparing definitive, concrete sales. Hardware AND software.

The arguement at hand is can/will wii surpass the 360 in the americas in total sales. Why dont you pay attention "effthat".

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#3 Japanese_Monk
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With Gears 2 (supposedly) coming this year, Id say wii has a battle on its hands.
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#4 Japanese_Monk
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this only enrages me that it was delayed.
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#5 Japanese_Monk
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Ima shemming so ima little biased.

But I see moronic things posted by lemmings. Sheep hardly write lame things except when they brag about crappy games like MOH.

But all in all. Cows are the worst. They write about Sony like its not failing flat on its face. Its just sad to see that much desperation.

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#6 Japanese_Monk
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[QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"][QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]I won't argue with you guys. But it's not like the Guy that buys a Nintendo DS doesn't know it's made by the same company that made the Gameboy, Gameboy Color and Gameboy advance. It's logic sense.
haris12121212

it's not the same product line though. It's a brand new product that Nintendo put out as an expirement "until the real gameboy came along". I'm guessing it's success surprised even them. The Wii and DS are brand new products, far newer than anything else in the market and that is why they are such a huge success

I understand that but read this "So its almost as if Sonys "Playstation" brand was going up against an ALL NEW PRODUCT that had little to no brand popularity."

The PSP competes agains the NDS yes, but the NDS plays Gameboy Advance, and has the same franchises the Gameboy advance portable had (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Pokemon etc.). Don't tell me know that the PSP competes against something "not proven" because the NDS was bound to sell because it has the franchise games like the GBA.

Oh, you mean like the N64 was bound to sell right?

Yeah, but did the N64 have, Final Fantasy? Nope. Dragon Quest? Nope. In fact many 3rd party games that were on the Super Nintendo went to Playstation because of the reason we all know today (CD). Square (or any other dev) didn't tell Nintendo if you make a dual screen portables we will switch to another portable. You do know that many NDS almost don't use the Touch Screen innovation (New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon, etc.)

You can argue about the Nintendo brand name being the reason why the DS sold. Or you can argue about games. You cant have it both ways.

You cant say the DS only sold so well because it was a Nintendo product and it had the Nintendo brand name printed all over the box, but then go on to say that the Nintendo 64 did so BAD because it didnt have popular 3rd party games.

You're being a hypocrite right now. Both had the Nintendo brand name. One failed, one didnt. You keep telling me the DS didnt fail because the established Nintendo brand name. And then you say the 64 (established Nintendo brand name) failed because games? WHAT?!?!?!

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#7 Japanese_Monk
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]both those boxes have Nintendo Brand name in them.haris12121212

they're different products/product lines. Nintendo is the company that makes them

The Sony PSP is not the same thing as the Sony Bravia. The Microsoft XBox 360 is not the same thing as the Zune.

Of course not, they aren't in the same departement. A man that bough a Sony TV 6 years ago. And now want's to buy a brand new HD TV. Do you think when he sees the Sony Bravia, he is sceptic about it's quality (considering all his before sony tv's were great). The Brand is Sony, not Bravia.

You fail to realize the popularity of a product. Ipod anyone? Zune? Creative Zen? Xbox? Those remind you of anything? Yes. The company itself could be considered a brand name. But the product also. Cheerios for example.

Its much more profitable/successful to keep a popular name and just update the product instead of changing the product name. Thats why Microsoft and Sony continue to stick with "Xbox" and "playstation" instead of doing something crazy like Nintendo and naming their product "Wii".

I know it cant be that hard to understand.

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#8 Japanese_Monk
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]I won't argue with you guys. But it's not like the Guy that buys a Nintendo DS doesn't know it's made by the same company that made the Gameboy, Gameboy Color and Gameboy advance. It's logic sense.
haris12121212

it's not the same product line though. It's a brand new product that Nintendo put out as an expirement "until the real gameboy came along". I'm guessing it's success surprised even them. The Wii and DS are brand new products, far newer than anything else in the market and that is why they are such a huge success

I understand that but read this "So its almost as if Sonys "Playstation" brand was going up against an ALL NEW PRODUCT that had little to no brand popularity."

The PSP competes agains the NDS yes, but the NDS plays Gameboy Advance, and has the same franchises the Gameboy advance portable had (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Pokemon etc.). Don't tell me know that the PSP competes against something "not proven" because the NDS was bound to sell because it has the franchise games like the GBA.

Oh, you mean like the N64 was bound to sell right?

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#9 Japanese_Monk
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]

Its a failure.

1. Sony was brand established being much more popular than Nintendo.

2. Also the name playstation was "cooler".

3. The dethroned Nintendo on their first try in the console market.

4. Many cows thought all of the above points would translate and make the psp a success.

5. Nintendo DS ISNT a gameboy, and the gameboy brand name is much more known. So its almost as if Sonys "Playstation" brand was going up against an ALL NEW PRODUCT that had little to no brand popularity.

Thats why I believe its a failure. And this is system wars. Like another poster said, no excuses, no chances and no pity.

haris12121212

Omg, I never thought of it that way. That's huge ownage.:lol:

Thats nonesense :| Both protables have the Nintendo in them (Nintendo Gameboy, and nintendo DS) just like Super Nintendo, Nintendo Entertainement system, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo 64 .......

Well then, the Sony/Playstation brand should have overthrown the less popular Nintendo/DS brand like they did with the "NINTENDO 64" and the "NINTENDO gamecube"

Why do you think most companys keep the brand name? Sony and Microsoft are testaments to that. Companys keep the brand name because its ensure sales. Thats why Sony called it a PLAYSTATION PORTABLE. They tried to use their popular playstation brand to overthrow Nintendos handheld reign and it failed. I doubt Sony will be releasing any handheld or console that will stray from the playstation name.

Nintendo could've done that too. But instead they scrapped the popular "gameboy" brand name and made a completely new product. Sony has no excuses. They beat Nintendo twice in the console market and they should've beat them in the handheld market. Really it was no different.

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#10 Japanese_Monk
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Anyway on to the topic.

Is it possible. Yes. Is it likely....no.

But Smash bros is a better game.

In my opinion Halo 1 was better than SSB. SSBM was a little better than Halo 2. And Brawl no doubt is going to be massively better than Halo 3.

Halo is just that American kill spirit at its finest. People eat it up. While Halo 3 really sucks in comparison to its predecessors it just has that brand name...like Nintendo or Apple...and thats all that sells it. Its name.

SSB to me is more of a hardcore fan game. Like Portal or something of that nature. Everyone knows its a hardcore game. Everyone knows its a REALLY good game. But its just not as popular.