@david1230 Pisces is a Zodiac sign. Also @hp2110 I replied to you about confirmation above. I'm pretty sure it's listed on the official site right now actually.

@hp2110 @david1230 @Judge-Albel @JKeyz90 @supa_stud Yeah sadly it is confirmed. I know you're not trying to be an ass. Information is all over the place because MS is doing a really bad PR job. They don't even know for sure what they're going to do about used game sales through their own ecosystem for it yet. They really dropped the ball on stuff this year. I don't think they're even ready for a console release. There were only 2 Xb1's on the showfloor at e3

@jorgeaps It's even funnier when 10 year long xbox fanboys advocate buying the PS4.

@malokevi @david1230 I can give you 3 reasons to discount a new Halo, Halo : Reach, ODST, and Halo 4.

@hp2110 @JKeyz90 @supa_stud 24 hours without Check-in = 1 hour to play offline after 1 hour offline play without check-in games are no longer playable however the live TV functions wil still work.

@hp2110 Wasn't zune one of the biggest failures for a media device? And Windows 8 is absolutely terrible =/ I absolutely dread buying a new windows PC.

@TechGoblin @Judge-Albel Ah yes you insult my comprehension skills. That's to be expected at this point.

Regardless it still stands that Microsoft has not pulled what Apple did. Apple picked the right timing and the right battles. Microsoft did not and thus made most of the gaming community feel alienated. Where if they had done it later and picked the right time (as Apple did as you already have said yourself.) it would of been successful. Still disliked albeit but not as much fallout as this.

@david1230 @hp2110 And while all the PSN+ games are rentals that will be lost after not paying for +, they'll be regained upon repaying for it. I don't see to many people complaining about over $200+ worth of content a month + discounts for 5.99

@TechGoblin @Judge-Albel Yes but all you've done is prove that the Physical media for those things were already gone or partly gone when the move to digital was made. Consoles aren't at that point yet. It'll be at least another generation before consoles are ready to get to that point.

I understand MS got shafted by piracy a lot last gen. But they'll get shafted by piracy this generation as well. You don't stop piracy by making people dislike your company further. You play to the consumer and lead their thinking so they love spending money on you.

What they are doing is corporate suicide.

@hp2110 @stonewall001 @AvrgInt @Digital_XTC @Judge-Albel @malokevi Well with the amount of Xbox Converts jumping ship they should be used to paying 7.99 a month for less content anyway. And a lot of people were already using PSN+ for the free games IIRC.