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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Ira Glickstein? An electronic engineer? How is this person able to give an accurate view on climate?

 

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[Retired] Senior System Engineer (Advanced Avionics and Visionics, Route Planning, Decision Aiding, Five Patents ... at IBM, Lockheed-Martin); Adjunct Associate Professor (System Engineering at University of Maryland, System Science and Computer Science at Binghamton University); PhD in System Science (Binghamton University, 1996); MS in System Science (Binghamton); Bachelors in Electrical Engineering (CCNY)

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It's a graph of past IPCC report predictions vs. reality.

No its not, its bogus and from this site.

http://www.thegwpf.org/

 

A group funded my european coal mining companies, and work out an office in london rented from a mining company.

 

You should really check your sources.

No try again. The base graph and data comes from IPCC reports.
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[QUOTE="deeliman"] No it's not really, since any time before the industrial revolution would be irrelevant. Unless you aren't talking about enhanced global warming and instead are talking about normal global warming, but arguing regular global warming doesn't exist is pretty stupid.deeliman

Climate change has always existed. The earth has been far warmer and cooler just human history.

The notion that humans drive the climate hasn't been proven. In fact past predictions have been way off.

I know that climate change has always existed, no one is denying that. It's just that the rate at which the climate is changing is significantly higher than before humans started pumping greenhouse gasses into the air.

Not true at all. Little ice age ended started before industrial revolution. The current warming started in the mid 1700s.
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tenaka2

Ira Glickstein? An electronic engineer? How is this person able to give an accurate view on climate?

 

About Ira Glickstein, PhD

[Retired] Senior System Engineer (Advanced Avionics and Visionics, Route Planning, Decision Aiding, Five Patents ... at IBM, Lockheed-Martin); Adjunct Associate Professor (System Engineering at University of Maryland, System Science and Computer Science at Binghamton University); PhD in System Science (Binghamton University, 1996); MS in System Science (Binghamton); Bachelors in Electrical Engineering (CCNY)

It's a graph of past IPCC report predictions vs. reality.
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"]

 

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That's a very small slice of time to be trying to prove global warming.

No it's not really, since any time before the industrial revolution would be irrelevant. Unless you aren't talking about enhanced global warming and instead are talking about normal global warming, but arguing regular global warming doesn't exist is pretty stupid.

Climate change has always existed. The earth has been far warmer and cooler just human history.

The notion that humans drive the climate hasn't been proven. In fact past predictions have been way off.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="TigerSpiderman"]Almost certainly?tenaka2

lol...exactly. Very scientific.

 

What about these scientific groups? Are they all involved in the conspiracy?

All of these groups accept man made global warming.

Same groups that said the same thing in the past supporting past IPCC reports, yet were proven wrong.

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Almost certainly?TigerSpiderman
lol...exactly. Very scientific.
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No net increase in temperature in 15 years!:

UAH_LT_1979_thru_August_2013_v5.6.png

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="deeliman"]

You guys do know that making mistakes and then correcting them is part of the scientific method, right?

deeliman
Yes, however when you have a panel of 200 scientists, getting paid to come to the same conclusions, and it turns out they haven't actually done any peer reviews, it shows they care more about money, and scaring the public, rather than the scientific method.

Do you have a source for any of those claims or are you just talking out of your ass?

There hasn't been any warming in 15 years yet these people talk doom and gloom.
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You guys do know that making mistakes and then correcting them is part of the scientific method, right?

deeliman

Exactly. When all of your past models were wrong something is wrong with your general hypothesis, inputs, etc.

So instead of them saying they have no clue if humans drive climate or not they degraded it from 100% to 95%.

They pulled that 95% out of their arses just like the 100%.

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Love the way they keep changing the 'goal posts'. First, they claimed humans were responsible for warming since the industrial revolution and now it's '1950s' (they started there because the 40s cooled after a warm 1930s). First humans drove the climate without a doubt but now it's '95%...maybe, sorta' and all of our past climate change models and predictions were way off. Believe us this time...pretty please. We are super serial.

Just don't think people take the IPCC seriously anymore.

GOGOGOGURT

 

I've read so many "desicive" "studies" on "global warming", they've changed it more than that.  It happened yesterday you know.

Love the way in the prior reports it was a 100% chance of humans driving climate. Now it's been downgraded to 95%.....after all of their past models were way off they had to admit they were wrong, but 95% is as far as these people could go I suppose.